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"All Day" Calendar Events Set to 3 Days (instead of 1) - for 11 March 2023 and beyond!

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buckwheat66
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#1
All single "All Day" events are showing up as a 3 day event (instead of a 1 day event). Basically, any "All Day" event is showing up with an extra day tacked on to the beginning and the end of the event.

Interesting that this is true for anything posted to the calendar after (about) March 11th, 2023. Today is July 10th, 2022. (Yes, I'm working on planning for 2023)

Making it an hourly event and then changing it to an "All Day" event does not help. Nor does any other combination seem to help.

Is there a "fix" for this one??

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russellhltn
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#2
Sounds like a new manifestation of the DST bug where events show up as off by an hour. That usually fixes itself when the calendar transitions to the same DST as the event.
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buckwheat66
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#3
Thanks for the response. Is there a work-around? Or, planned fix?
lajackson
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#4
buckwheat66 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:26 pm Is there a work-around? Or, planned fix?
There are posts in this forum going back more than 15 years discussing how this problem keeps showing up twice a year in various configurations. I do not hold out hope for a fix. I have never seen a successful workaround. When the Calendar gets to the magic day in March or November each year, the problem appears to resolve itself until the next time shift. But, it has always been an illusion.

Perhaps Congress will finally pass that law ending the change to and from daylight saving time. The Senate passed it. We just need a brave House of Representatives to do the same.

Or the Millennium will arrive. Or it will end and there shall be time no longer (see D&C 88:110).

Sorry to be so helpful. [grin]
caillines
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#5
I can't remember seeing this bug before. Really frustrating having an Australian timezoned event beholden to US DLS changes.

Fun bonus fact with this:
If you go in and edit the start date to be the correct date, it adds an extra day to the end of it even if the date on the edit page doesn't show the date changing.
milie
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#6
This bug is really annoying. :cry:

As a stake executive secretary I need to update the stake calendar almost daily and with this new bug I cannot set future stake conferences and other events as before (and all the members of the stake see them in wrong days). Also all the repeating events (stake presidency meetings, stake council meetings etc.) show up an hour too early for the DST period. Is there a channel where this bug can be reported so that it can be fixed to work as before?
russellhltn
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#7
milie wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:05 am Is there a channel where this bug can be reported so that it can be fixed to work as before?
Either the feedback link at the bottom of the page, or calling GSD.
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buckwheat66
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#8
Edited 1 time, last by russellhltn on . Reason: Number removed. We've been asked not to publish it.
Let's get some momentum behind getting this fixed - pls call & enter feedback on the website.
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It sound like this bug has been around for years and years - time to fix it or move to a new calendar system.

Thx!
russellhltn
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#9
caillines wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:15 pm Really frustrating having an Australian timezoned event beholden to US DLS changes.
It appears that Australia also has DST. Just to clarify, are you seeing this bug starting with the US DST change in March or the Australian one in April?
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russellhltn
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#10
I've been told a completely new calendar system is due in September.
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garystroble
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#11
russellhltn wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:50 pm I've been told a completely new calendar system is due in September.
Prayers it is a work of programming art.
russellhltn
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#12
The word I've heard back is that the programmers will be focusing on getting the new version out rather than trying to fix this bug in code that going to be retired. Understandable, but I sure hope this new code doesn't have any major bugs. The whole Standard to DST and back again has been an ongoing source of bugs.
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caillines
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#13
russellhltn wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:50 pm
caillines wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:15 pm Really frustrating having an Australian timezoned event beholden to US DLS changes.
It appears that Australia also has DST. Just to clarify, are you seeing this bug starting with the US DST change in March or the Australian one in April?
Just did a test.
It looks like it breaks the day before the April DLS change in Australia.
But I haven't had this issue before. I normally go through at the year and put the next years local public holidays and school holidays in the calendar without issue.

Hopefully the new calendar in September comes to fruition.
russellhltn
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#14
caillines wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:26 pm But I haven't had this issue before. I normally go through at the year and put the next years local public holidays and school holidays in the calendar without issue.
Yeah, usually what happens is the change in time zone isn't taken into account and meetings display as being off by an hour.
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caillines
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#15
russellhltn wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:20 pm Yeah, usually what happens is the change in time zone isn't taken into account and meetings display as being off by an hour.
That would explain why I've never seen it with all day events then. Thanks.
peparsons
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#16
I've just found this bug too. (I'm in the UK.) I tried to add the stake conference dates for next year and couldn't get it to add in the correct days. I couldn't understand why it was working correctly until 25th March 2023, but after that it was faulty. Now I've read this thread I realise that 25th March is the day before the change to daylight saving time in the UK. I'll jut have to patiently wait for the new version.
peparsons
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#17
lajackson wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:21 pm
buckwheat66 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:26 pm Is there a work-around? Or, planned fix?
There are posts in this forum going back more than 15 years discussing how this problem keeps showing up twice a year in various configurations. I do not hold out hope for a fix. I have never seen a successful workaround. When the Calendar gets to the magic day in March or November each year, the problem appears to resolve itself until the next time shift. But, it has always been an illusion.

Perhaps Congress will finally pass that law ending the change to and from daylight saving time. The Senate passed it. We just need a brave House of Representatives to do the same.

Or the Millennium will arrive. Or it will end and there shall be time no longer (see D&C 88:110).

Sorry to be so helpful. [grin]
Are we not a global church? I don't think a decision of the US congress will help with this problem in the UK.
bcardoza
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#18
Any word as to when this issue will be addressed?
russellhltn
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#19
bcardoza wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:37 am Any word as to when this issue will be addressed?
The software is undergoing a re-write and is expected to roll out this month. But times can slip.
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jdpratt
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#20
Echoing the need here... trying to load stake calendar ahead of wards loading for 2023... any update appreciated...


Seems to coincide w daylight savings time
russellhltn
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#21
I got a update that it will be most likely after General Conference.

For now, consider making the "all day" events something like 2AM to 10PM. Not ideal, but it seems like it might be the least hassle overall.
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caillines
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#22
Thanks for the update Russell.
peparsons
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#23
24th September - just checked again and it's still an issue in the UK.
I'm trying to do the right thing by using this calendar...

Paul
ericb
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#24
I'm glad I found this post, as I wondered if there were others running into the same problem. Sounds like there's several Stake Exec Secs (like me) trying to get all-day events plugged in for next year.
amigodopovo
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#25
russellhltn wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:47 am
bcardoza wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:37 am Any word as to when this issue will be addressed?
The software is undergoing a re-write and is expected to roll out this month. But times can slip.
It is now October 2 and no fix is apparent. Any updates? Struggling to get the stake calendar done with these issues.
lajackson
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#26
amigodopovo wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:07 pm It is now October 2 and no fix is apparent. Any updates? Struggling to get the stake calendar done with these issues.
This has been a problem for nearly 10 years. I do not expect that it will be fixed. I think they are hoping the new software being written will handle it.

In the meantime, I would suggest that you set your "all day" events to run from 3:00 am to 10:00 pm.
russellhltn
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#27
amigodopovo wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:07 pm
russellhltn wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:47 am
bcardoza wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:37 am Any word as to when this issue will be addressed?
The software is undergoing a re-write and is expected to roll out this month. But times can slip.
It is now October 2 and no fix is apparent. Any updates? Struggling to get the stake calendar done with these issues.
I posted a follow-up message that indicated it would be some time after General Conference. As such, unless there's another delay (quite possible), I'd expect the new software soon.
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margiestroble
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#28
I was doing some scheduling today and for a recurring meeting on every 2nd Sunday, it showed the correct time of 7 pm for January, February, November and December. For March through October, it showed 6 pm. I manually changed 6 pm to 7 pm for the months March through October.

I also noticed that for an all day event, or for those that a time hasn't been chosen yet, and I needed to add them as an all day event until we know more specifics, it sets it for 3 days! So I had to add a start and end time for all of those activities but will update them once more details are available. Also, for YM Camp, it added a day before and a day after the camp dates. So, I had to add a specific start time for the first day and an ending time for the last day of camp and then it showed the specific days of camp.

russellhltn, is it September yet? I see you mentioned that a new calendar system was due to come out. Hopefully it will work well no matter what time zone anyone is in!
russellhltn
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#29
margiestroble wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:11 pm I was doing some scheduling today and for a recurring meeting on every 2nd Sunday, it showed the correct time of 7 pm for January, February, November and December. For March through October, it showed 6 pm. I manually changed 6 pm to 7 pm for the months March through October.
Your fix may have made things worse. In the past, it appears the software records the time correctly in the database, but when it goes to display, it only uses the current time zone for everything instead of checking to see what events are Standard and which are Daylight. You might want to double-check times after November 6th when DST ends. However, I'd hope the new software would be in place by then.

margiestroble wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:11 pm russellhltn, is it September yet? I see you mentioned that a new calendar system was due to come out. Hopefully it will work well no matter what time zone anyone is in!
Please see this post.
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margiestroble
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#30
russellhltn, Thank you, I will definitely double check the times after November 6th.
kdensl
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#31
September has come and gone and still now new calendar. nor is the old one fixed. this is becoming an issue to get events scheduled in 2023
buckwheat66
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#32
--> Is there a Church Project Manager on this thread that can provide an official update on the new calendar rollout?

Bad news or good news - any official word would be much appreciated so that we can plan accordingly. Thx!
sbradshaw
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#33
buckwheat66 wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:13 am --> Is there a Church Project Manager on this thread that can provide an official update on the new calendar rollout?
This is mainly a user-to-user forum – managers who make decisions or who can give official updates about Church apps and websites don't visit the forum frequently.
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
caillines
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#34
Hopefully the update comes soon.
In the mean time, I've send an email to our bishoprics letting them know that they'll see an issue, and how I'm handling it at the stake level (putting the date in as part of the event name).
Once/if it gets fixed I will just go through and rename the events again.
engljeff
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#35
Has anyone successfully uploaded calendar events into a stake calendar? Finding real difficulty properly planning 2023 calendar when the events aren't displayed properly. Wondering if preparing a calendar in Google first and then exporting from google and uploading into the stake calendar when the problem seems to be solved (hopefully it will) is a way to go?
russellhltn
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#36
There is no import function. At least not in the current version of the software. I don't know if that's a planned feature for the new version or not. Probably not. Too many ways that can error out and it would take a lot of programming time to handle that.
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russellhltn
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#37
russellhltn wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:58 pm I got a update that it will be most likely after General Conference.
Update: it's now "mid-November".

This is why church programmers rarely give timelines for changes.
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casper684
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#38
Wow this is making it difficult for 2023 advance calendar planning. Stake leaders have the month of October to list their 2023 events. Units begin their input 11-1-22 and lastly private events on 12-1-22 for upcoming year. Throws our schedule off. Hope issue is resolved soon.
casper684
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#39
A work around is to put in the actual times encompassing all day instead of utilizing the ALL DAY option. That seemed to work
for me. Besides when selecting ALL DAY you do not have the option to show the actual start time. An event may take all
day with set up and clean up but the all day feature to me should not be used. Hours of start and end and then set up and clean up listed below seems like a better way to do it? Otherwise when do members know when they should arrive for the event?
russellhltn
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#40
casper684 wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:35 pm A work around is to put in the actual times encompassing all day instead of utilizing the ALL DAY option. That seemed to work
for me. Besides when selecting ALL DAY you do not have the option to show the actual start time. An event may take all
day with set up and clean up but the all day feature to me should not be used. Hours of start and end and then set up and clean up listed below seems like a better way to do it? Otherwise when do members know when they should arrive for the event?
A very good point. The calendar shouldn't be viewed as a room reservation system, but rather as a means of communicating events with the ward that also does room reservation. While it doesn't eliminate the need for working all-day events, it may reduce it.
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engljeff
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#41
Yeah, the "all day" feature prioritizes the event for the day and highlights it as "important". Works really well for things like holidays, fast Sunday, etc. I'm having to do the actual time on everything now, and agree that in some cases, like a ward conference, it actually seems better, but still looking for a solution.
stansel
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#42
I appreciate the posts on this thread. Extremely annoying bug. My work around is to schedule multiple day events with a specific start and end time. So stake conference is not all day Saturday and Sunday, but 4 PM Saturday until 4 PM Sunday. Of course I will have to go back and edit after DST ends, but at least it gets it on the right days.
NTSmith26
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#43
I'll happily take a mid-November fix. My "work-around" will be double work, but has been making the events go from 1 a.m. to 1145 p.m. Then after the fix go back and edit the events. But at least we can get started on 2023 calendaring.
russellhltn wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:07 pm
russellhltn wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:58 pm I got a update that it will be most likely after General Conference.
Update: it's now "mid-November".

This is why church programmers rarely give timelines for changes.
jemslds
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#44
I see that there was supposed to be a new calendar released in September, we are now in November and still have the same 2 issues - all day events show up as 3 days and reoccurring events after the first of March are not correct. Is there a date planned for the new calendar release? Many of us are calendaring for the Stakes/Wards for 2023 and really need these issues to be resolved. Could someone please let us know when we might be seeing this new version - so we can provide insight to our leaders? Thank you.
lajackson
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#45
jemslds wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:26 pm Is there a date planned for the new calendar release?
I am sure there is, but it seems they have already missed it a time or two. It is very unusual for someone from the Church to announce a release date, especially for new software. Someone must have been pretty certain they were going to make their target, but it is still doubtful wisdom to announce, at least in my opinion.

From what I hear, the new release is imminent. Please note that I have no clue or inside information. Also note that the word imminent sounds exciting and near term, but that the actual definition of the word contains absolutely no reference to any time frame whatsoever.

In other words, we will know it is released when we see that it is released. Again though, I also hope that it will happen sometime soon. Imminent just sounds more impressive and hopeful.
russellhltn
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#46
jemslds wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:26 pm I see that there was supposed to be a new calendar released in September.
Yes, then it was "after General Conference" and then "Mid-November".

This is not unusual for church projects. That's probably why they rarely give a timeline.
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garystroble
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#47
New bugs may be in the new calendar. It may fix old issues and create new ones, at least that has been the track record with previous calendar updates. Just so folks are aware, keep an eye out for problems when it is released.
russellhltn
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#48
The definition of a upgrade: Trading known bugs for unknown bugs.
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lajackson
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#49
russellhltn wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:42 pm The definition of a upgrade: Trading known bugs for unknown bugs.
Is it not fascinating that these very helpful computers seem to always do just exactly what they were programmed to do.
russellhltn
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#50
Update: The upgrade is expected to happen November 15. Expect an outage that day of a few hours.
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caillines
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#51
russellhltn wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:33 am Update: The upgrade is expected to happen November 15. Expect an outage that day of a few hours.
The separate CPCS system is going away next week too (has been integrated into LCR), so the GCS might be quite busy with IT issues in the next couple of weeks.
casper684
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#52
I am finding this 3 day instead of 1 issue puzzling as I am having no difficulty with this at all. As stake building scheduler people are calling with how to get around this. I walk them through it over the phone and their calendar looks completely different from mine? Easiest work around I found to tell them is to go to an old entry and make it repeating and then just delete the ones they don't want. That way they have a starting point.

The time issue yes having trouble with that one too. I am able to go in and edit input by others. I am unsure as to what will happen with my edits though. Anxiously awaiting new calendar roll out. Our stake has stopped unit 2023 entries until this is figured out. Stake 2023 entries had already been input before this started happening.

Hoping to restart after calender upgrade. Keeping fingers crossed..
russellhltn
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#53
casper684 wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:46 am I am finding this 3 day instead of 1 issue puzzling as I am having no difficulty with this at all. fingers crossed..
Please be aware that they calendar adjusts itself based on the time zone reported by your browser. For example, of your computer is set for Arizona time zone (which doesn't observe DST) instead of Mountain time, you may not experience this bug.

This is important as "7PM" in your browser may not be "7pm" for the rest of the users.
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tvshort
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#54

2023 Calendar- all day events are posting wrong

When posting all-day events for 2023, the calendar is posting the event as if it were a three-day event blocking out the day before and the day after. This seems to be happening with events scheduled during daylight savings (march 12th 2023 - November 5 2023). Also, all-day events scheduled on November 5th disappear.
rmrichesjr
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#55

Re: 2023 Calendar- all day events are posting wrong

This has been discussed at considerable length here: https://tech.churchofjesuschrist.org/fo ... 4&start=50
casper684
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#56
Thank you so much for that bit of info. I did have someone tell me that they had a question come up about what time zone they were in
and I never get that popup. Makes sense.
russellhltn
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#57

Re: 2023 Calendar- all day events are posting wrong

tvshort wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:05 pm When posting all-day events for 2023, the calendar is posting the event as if it were a three-day event blocking out the day before and the day after.
Your post has been merged with an existing thread.
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jennerporter
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#58
Is the new calendar system still set to release soon?
caillines
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#59
I hope so. The sooner I can ensure that next years calendar is working well, the fewer stake items I'm going to have to fix/check.
shimektl
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#60
Our stake calendar doesn't work at all now. It first gives a spinney with a grayed-out calendar behind it, then goes completely blank. So I'm assuming they rolled out the new calendar system and had some issues. I'm sure they'll get it worked out, but for now it appears we exchanged known bugs for unknown bugs.
russellhltn
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#61
They did say "There will be an outage for a few hours that day as we migrate all the data to the new database." It wouldn't surprise me but what "few" turns into "several".
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dkarbuckle
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#62
jennerporter wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:01 am Is the new calendar system still set to release soon?
I thought I read this was supposed to be updated today, 15 Nov, but I can't seem to find that post now??
dotson98
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#63
The new calendar appears to have rolled out.

I love upgrades, but I'm not sure how I'm feeling about this. All the fonts are bigger (less letters fitting in the box) and the all-day designations are no longer in reverse (making them stand out).

I can deal with that, but now to get to a date 8 months from now, I have to page through each month, with load times averaging 10 seconds for each month. Anyone else seeing this?
russellhltn
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#64
Right now, after several seconds of spinning, I get a blank screen. I'm guessing that the data is still loading. If that's the case, it will likely impact performance.
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casper684
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#65
shimektl wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:02 pm Our stake calendar doesn't work at all now. It first gives a spinney with a grayed-out calendar behind it, then goes completely blank. So I'm assuming they rolled out the new calendar system and had some issues. I'm sure they'll get it worked out, but for now it appears we exchanged known bugs for unknown bugs.
I am getting the same. I just figure it is still loading as it has been all day today. We did have advance notice that that calendar was going to be down. Sure is hard to be patient when so many activities to input for 2023. Hope all goes well.
lajackson
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#66
russellhltn wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:54 pm Right now, after several seconds of spinning, I get a blank screen. I'm guessing that the data is still loading.
I also am asked to "Give us a moment..." and then receive total whiteness. I live in a stake with a 7-digit unit number, so if data is being loaded based on unit number, I will probably not have a Calendar for a while still.

There is nothing quite like receiving a clean slate in life.
caillines
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#67
lajackson wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:05 pm I also am asked to "Give us a moment..." and then receive total whiteness. I live in a stake with a 7-digit unit number, so if data is being loaded based on unit number, I will probably not have a Calendar for a while still.
Mid 6 digit here, seeing the same thing. I guess it's a check in on it in a day or so situation.
mstauff
Member
#68
For me it's working now, but it is really slow loading. I have a stake calling so I'm seeing calendars for every unit in the stake, not sure if that's why it's so slow.

There are a lot of things it's missing like:
* quick monthly navigation
* Settings button (calendar subscriptions, sync, manage calendars and users etc. - really surprised that wasn't part of MVP, should be a follow up release coming very soon as that's critical functionality)
* Collapse Units. I can collapse the churchwide calendar group and ALL the calendars in the stake, but neither of those are terribly useful. We need to be able to collapse/expand individual units.
* Agenda View. Not critical but it is a helpful feature
* Can't create an event by clicking on a day
* printing

I agree with others that I don't care for how the all day events look like everything else (especially multi-day events). I also miss the building icons so you could quickly distinguish between an event on a building calendar vs. others. When you create events it defaults to today rather than even the month that you're viewing (which will be painful for entering events for next year since you can't just click on a day you're viewing to create). On top of that, the end date is not based on the start date, so to create an event in June 2023 you have to navigate from today to June 2023 twice. Yikes. The add/modify event is nice that it's a popup rather than replacing the screen, but then it takes so long to save the event that it kind of negates it. So there are still a lot of rough edges to be smoothed out before it's super usable.

Looking at the code there are some comments that tease what's coming in the 2nd release (whenever that is). It looks like it should restore most of the features we had previously (admin options, managing locations and calendars, sync settings, agenda view).

I know the previous calendar front end was written in Angular (it was started just before the church officially switched to React) so it was probably getting hard to maintain. So now it's written in react, but I expect as others have noted we're exchanging a lot of old bugs for new ones. There are a ton of very subtle nuances when it comes to a global calendar and time zones/time changes that can be really hard to get right, so I don't envy the devs that have to deal with that. Hopefully there are lessons learned from previous iterations that the new code has already accounted for, but with the likely developer churn on these types of projects over the years I'm not holding my breath. Maybe at least now that it's rewritten in react it can be maintained better and the new bugs & missing features can be added quicker.
dotson98
Member
#69
Has anyone ever been able to search for an event?
casper684
Member
#70
dotson98 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:22 am Has anyone ever been able to search for an event?
Only way I have found is to know what calendar it was on and then only have that calendar show. Had to do that recently for
the Stake bldg FHC. Looking to see how many events were actually scheduled in a 2 year period for another stake that
was allowed access to schedule on it. Only found 4 events so rethinking that access as it complicated our building scheduling.
caillines
Member
#71
Still not loading for me. Will have to keep waiting I guess.
dawdaw
New Member
#72
Anyone have any idea how much longer the calendar feature is going to be down? I schedule literally hundreds of events each year as stake bldg scheduler with frequent funerals, receptions, Temple related activities, etc., (we have a Temple within our stake boundaries) and several new events needing to be scheduled each day. I cannot see the calendar for two days now and now have a backlog of scheduling requests. I’m getting a little panicked because our stake depends heavily on the calendar.
Bradfordrw
New Member
#73
I started https://tech.churchofjesuschrist.org/fo ... hp?t=41429 but a comment directed to this thread as well. Are there ever any replies from the Calendar team in these threads?

I have tried multiple browsers, incognito, and clearing my application cache/data but am seeing the following console error before getting the blank screen:

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casper684
Member
#74
dawdaw wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:16 am Anyone have any idea how much longer the calendar feature is going to be down?I cannot see the calendar for two days now and now have a backlog of scheduling requests. I’m getting a little panicked because our stake depends heavily on the calendar.
I am in the same boat as Stake Building Scheduler. I can at least see the calendar now thru hubby's account but that doesn't help me with
my calling. Had private events in the works getting approvals (received) and now unable to calendar. Before calendar update I did go in and put restrictions on calendar for pending events to block others from getting. Sure glad I did that.

Be sure to do feedback because this is a user-to-user help forum and not the official method for interacting with any kind of Church support.
dawdaw
New Member
#75
Thank you casper684!
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#76
casper684 wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:47 am Before calendar update I did go in and put restrictions on calendar for pending events to block others from getting.
Be aware that restrictions can't block someone else from the same unit from scheduling. For example, you put a restriction on the cultural hall for a RS activity for Ward A, No other ward can schedule an event. But that wouldn't block the YM from Ward A from scheduling it.
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casper684
Member
#77
Ah yes so true. But at least it narrowed it down to just the one ward and activity happens to be during the day.
So guess my work around until I can get access, though incorrect will be to have someone with
access place event on a little used calendar of that ward with a notation that it is a private event. I don't know what
else to do.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#78
casper684 wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:01 am Ah yes so true. But at least it narrowed it down to just the one ward and activity happens to be during the day.
True, better than nothing. But placing anything else on the calendar will block the event from being created.

It seems the old idea of a "Building Scheduler" as someone who handles all the scheduling is no longer valid with the introduction of the on-line calendar. The position was created because of the limitations of paper calendars. The "Building Scheduler" in the calendar system is really a supervisory position - there to deal with conflicts and whatnot. (Such as the EQP scheduling the gym every Saturday for basketball.) Units should be scheduling themselves. Once an event is on the calendar, the facility is blocked off.

At least that's how it worked in the old calendar. We'll have to see what the new version brings.
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margiestroble
Member
#79
Edited 1 time, last by russellhltn on . Reason: Fix broken quote tag
russellhltn wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:31 pm It seems the old idea of a "Building Scheduler" as someone who handles all the scheduling is no longer valid with the introduction of the on-line calendar. The position was created because of the limitations of paper calendars. The "Building Scheduler" in the calendar system is really a supervisory position - there to deal with conflicts and whatnot. (Such as the EQP scheduling the gym every Saturday for basketball.) Units should be scheduling themselves. Once an event is on the calendar, the facility is blocked off.

At least that's how it worked in the old calendar. We'll have to see what the new version brings.
Not every auxiliary presidency wishes to do their own scheduling or to take the time to learn how to do it. Some do it, but they do it incorrectly. I always encourage the leaders to do their own scheduling, but it rarely happens.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#80
margiestroble wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:13 pm Not every auxiliary presidency wishes to do their own scheduling or to take the time to learn how to do it. Some do it, but they do it incorrectly. I always encourage the leaders to do their own scheduling, but it rarely happens.
Understood. However, it works better if at least the unit does their own scheduling. (Perhaps a clerk or secretary.) That way the event appears to the members of the unit. Things quickly get convoluted when someone outside the ward is tagged with scheduling.
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margiestroble
Member
#81
russellhltn wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:45 pm
Understood. However, it works better if at least the unit does their own scheduling. (Perhaps a clerk or secretary.) That way the event appears to the members of the unit. Things quickly get convoluted when someone outside the ward is tagged with scheduling.
I don't do scheduling for other wards anymore, unless it's like an emergency and nobody can schedule it right then or if there is a conflict of some type, then I will step in and help them. I do all, or most all of the scheduling for the Stake, as well as for my ward.
caillines
Member
#82
Ok. So now that access is (at least for the moment) working.
The previously entered whole day events that gained an extra 2 days are still there (but showing as having an extra day at the start now). However upon editing them back to one day, they appear to stick as one day. So it looks like you'll need to go through the calendar and re-fix all the whole-day events manually.
margiestroble
Member
#83
Thanks for the update caillines!
sandycherry
New Member
#84
dotson98 wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:34 pm The new calendar appears to have rolled out.

I love upgrades, but I'm not sure how I'm feeling about this. All the fonts are bigger (less letters fitting in the box) and the all-day designations are no longer in reverse (making them stand out).

I can deal with that, but now to get to a date 8 months from now, I have to page through each month, with load times averaging 10 seconds for each month. Anyone else seeing this?
I am seeing the same thing PLUS I'm not seeing anything for the other Wards meeting in the Stake Center that I actually schedule so I can't see what all is going on at the building. Just the Stake calendar and my Ward. And can't get to several months out without having to go thru each page that takes forever. Lots of events loss, time lost. Hope this corrects itself PLEASE!
engljeff
New Member
#85
The three day bug seems to have disappeared with this update, but repeating events spanning before and after daylight savings are sometimes adjusted an hour and sometimes not. Trying to figure out how to display events at the correct time is driving me batty and really worried that with populated events into the next daylight savings period everything will have to be adjusted again, anyone else experiencing this?
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#86
engljeff wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:32 am but repeating events spanning before and after daylight savings are sometimes adjusted an hour and sometimes not.
Does the problem remain after you edit the event? I was told that events save previously will be different than events saved now.
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engljeff
New Member
#87
russellhltn wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:40 am
engljeff wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:32 am but repeating events spanning before and after daylight savings are sometimes adjusted an hour and sometimes not.
Does the problem remain after you edit the event? I was told that events save previously will be different than events saved now.
I wondered that, so to be more precise, I think I've discovered that existing events do have the weird time issue. If I delete that event, create a new one with the exact same time and title, then the problem persists, but yes, now that I think about it, a new event with a different name, different time, didn't have the problem. I've noticed that there is also a difference between the calendar updating the page and refreshing the browser (some events don't show as adjusted otherwise) but no difference.

I wondered about just breaking up the repeating event into individual monthly entries, but really don't want them to all change the start time when we enter daylight savings again. Think it will?
dotson98
Member
#88
Curious on the dev side.... Why would you care about DST when storing an event? It's going to be at 6pm (example) in DST or out of DST. And when I look at a calendar where the DST change occurs mid-view, I don't look at the events as if they are in/out of DST.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#89
dotson98 wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:49 am Curious on the dev side.... Why would you care about DST when storing an event?
World wide, a number of units share a meetinghouse, but operate in different time zones. In order to properly check for conflicts, the event needs to be converted and stored to some kind of standard (like GMT). Add to that church-wide events (like General Conference) which is carried live. Those events need to be displayed in local time.
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dotson98
Member
#90
I would imagine that storing the event in GMT would solve your problems. Then the page can render the date in the current time zone.

Not sure why the display is worried about in/out of DST.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#91
dotson98 wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:49 pm Not sure why the display is worried about in/out of DST.
If times are stored in GMT, then Mountain Standard Time is GMT-7 while Mountain Daylight is GMT-6. Some months (like March) will have both MST and MDT events on them.
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dotson98
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#92
Yes, but to the end user, Sacrament meeting is at 10am during DST, and will continue to be at 10am outside of DST. Maybe that answers my question - if the system stores it in GMT, then when the clocks change, it will be off. That's complicated.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#93
dotson98 wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:30 pm Maybe that answers my question - if the system stores it in GMT, then when the clocks change, it will be off. That's complicated.
Correct. But it gets worse. When saving a repeating event, the DST has to be accounted for to get the correct GMT time. To use your example, if you save a 10AM sacrament meeting, some will be saved at 10AM+6 and others at 10AM+7.
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dotson98
Member
#94
I live and die by my Outlook calendar. I wonder how they are doing it?