StickyZoom Webinar use for Stake Conference

Attached is a document written to assist those who are seeking to use the Zoom Webinar feature for Stake Conference. This is using the Church's Zoom account.

Really appreciate you taking the time to prepare and share this. There's really a wide variety in how different Stakes work, some seem plugged into all the latest and greatest, others seem to simply be tethered to whatever they've currently got in place and not very interested in seeking out newer ways to do things. We were always told we couldn't do certain things because of hardware limitations and that the Church wouldn't spend money to upgrade (which I understand). But now with Zoom Webinars, I get the feeling we may be able to do things we previously couldn't, for certain scenarios where it makes sense.

I had a handful of ideas for my next stake conference. Thanks for creating and sharing this PDF with us.

Alguém pode me ajudar por favor não estou conseguindo entrar no zoom da igreja pois temos uma Conferência dias 14 e 15/08/21

In the PDF document that was attached to your post, you mentioned connecting by Bluetooth to a TinySine to use the building's audio. What is a TinySine and how do I find one to purchase? The video quality on a Zoom broadcast is great for Stake Conference, but the audio is not very good. This sounds like a great option to improve the audio quality of a Zoom broadcast.

Until helmsovi or someone else who knows for sure about TinySine:

This might be an incorrect guess, but this TinySine company looks like that is mentioned: https://www.tinysineaudio.com/

I'm not completely certain, but it looks like the receiver/transmitter might be this one: https://www.tinysineaudio.com/index.php ... uct_id=190

helmsovi wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:45 pm In the PDF document that was attached to your post, you mentioned connecting by Bluetooth to a TinySine to use the building's audio. What is a TinySine and how do I find one to purchase? The video quality on a Zoom broadcast is great for Stake Conference, but the audio is not very good. This sounds like a great option to improve the audio quality of a Zoom broadcast.

How are you currently routing your audio from the building to the Zoom device?

Do you have the "enable original audio" box ticked?

Surfing4u has posted two setups with videos in this post.

Wattsuk wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:27 am

helmsovi wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:45 pm In the PDF document that was attached to your post, you mentioned connecting by Bluetooth to a TinySine to use the building's audio. What is a TinySine and how do I find one to purchase? The video quality on a Zoom broadcast is great for Stake Conference, but the audio is not very good. This sounds like a great option to improve the audio quality of a Zoom broadcast.

How are you currently routing your audio from the building to the Zoom device?

Do you have the "enable original audio" box ticked?

You can watch here to see:
Video Links:
Buildings with Pre-wired Camera systems: https://youtu.be/iZEGO_5wlpY
Buildings with-out: https://youtu.be/JNP3sNsEVOs

Josh

Buildings with Pre-wired Camera systems

- would you be able to do YouTube video of just the basic of cable connections using zoom to broadcast sacrament meeting in a building with a pre-wired camera system? The main issue I am having is the audio. If you can just show a basic setup of the audio. Multiple audio option is okay but maybe a different video for each. Thank you!
(No extra mic etc)

Ipiu2 wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 10:55 am Buildings with Pre-wired Camera systems

- would you be able to do YouTube video of just the basic of cable connections using zoom to broadcast sacrament meeting in a building with a pre-wired camera system? The main issue I am having is the audio. If you can just show a basic setup of the audio. Multiple audio option is okay but maybe a different video for each. Thank you!
(No extra mic etc)

Unfortunately, the church has been installing PTZ cameras in stake centers for many years, starting with standard definition (SD) cameras. There are many revisions currently being used by the church at any one time as they systematically go about upgrading stake centers. To help you, we would have to know how your equipment rack or cabinet is currently configured. How are you currently getting your audio feed? What are you using to upload to Zoom? Notebook PC maybe?

Let’s just say we have the latest technology.

I have zero to one percent knowledge of the tech lingos mentioned in the forums (google is my go to). If opossible, a simple connection using zoom via HDMI etc.

The video below can be redone but just the basics and not including any additional bonus items. But explain more in detail the basics. I have the camera showing in zoom but the sound connections is where I need help.

Buildings with Pre-wired Camera systems: https://youtu.be/iZEGO_5wlpY

Ipiu2 wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 2:43 pm the sound connections is where I need help.

There's two routes - getting the sound from the sound system, or adding a separate mic to the podium to feed Zoom.

Getting the sound depends on if you can locate a output jack. For many, that will be a 3.5mm mono phone jack. Do you have that?

Maybe just go over how the mixer is connected to the laptop and whatever other basic connections for audio purposes. If possible just show the required connections. A basic set up using existing installed camera with latest connections. Maybe connecting using a laptop with zoom or if there is any other simpler device. Basic and simple is the goal.

Yes, we can get that sound from the sound system.

I guess my next question is - how we get people watching on zoom to hear the speakers using an existing camera and the building sound system? Do I need a mixer? If so, what are connections from laptop to mixer and from mixer to building. On the video below, there are three connections from the mixer. Do I need all of them? Our building has all the newest set up.

One video below: The microphone chip connection from the laptop to the mixer with the red and yellow. I may or may not need that - what other options are available for that connection if I have the latest cables/connections.

Buildings with Pre-wired Camera systems: https://youtu.be/iZEGO_5wlpY

I appreciate all the help!!!

Let's keep it simple. Buy this device: SABRENT USB External Stereo Sound Adapter, and a 3.5mm cable that's long enough to get you from the PA to the laptop.

Adding a mixer is a "level up" from basic.

That might work!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lm2 ... gGU1o/edit

I hope this will work for zooming sacrament meeting- From the pic above:

- For picture: Connect a HDMI cable from HDMI OUT to my laptop HDMI
- For audio: Connect this cable (https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External ... VQ0F8?th=1) using 3.5mm cable from RECORD OUT/LINE LEVEL to either USB-A or C on laptop.

Will it work?

Any other suggested/basic/connections/options using the set up below will be great?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lm2 ... gGU1o/edit

Thank you experts for your inputs!

Ipiu2 wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 4:18 pm For picture: Connect a HDMI cable from HDMI OUT to my laptop HDMI

It's unlikely your laptop can used the HDMI as a input. You'll need an adapter.

Ipiu2 wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 4:18 pm For audio: Connect this cable (https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External ... VQ0F8?th=1) using 3.5mm cable from RECORD OUT/LINE LEVEL to either USB-A or C on laptop.

Yes. While the sound system says "Line" and the Sabrent says "mic", they'll work just fine.

I’m sorry, Can you provide some examples of what adapters to use for the HDMI?

Ipiu2 wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:15 pm Can you provide some examples of what adapters to use for the HDMI?

Google "HDMI to USB Adapter" for some ideas.

The HDMI port on most laptops is HDMI Out from the laptop to a display such as a projector or television. One of the HDMI to USB Adapters will take HDMI and adapt it so that when you plug the USB end into a laptop port you will see the video and be able to do something with it. (Put it into a Zoom meeting or webinar, pull it up in OBS, or something similar.)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B091NX27 ... asin_title

Will the HDMI adapter above work?

Ipiu2 wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 9:36 pm https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B091NX27 ... asin_title

Will the HDMI adapter above work?

Someone else will have to weigh in on the quality, but that looks like a reasonable pick. You're on the right track.

Ipiu2 wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 9:36 pm https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B091NX27 ... asin_title

Will the HDMI adapter above work?

That should work fine

Thank you for all your help!!!

Will this work for using zoom to broadcast sacrament? This link is the setup in the tech room:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A2L ... MApRU/edit

For Audio: Connect 3.5m to AUDIO IN and the other end to this adapter ( https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External ... VQ0F8?th=1 ) and from this adapter to the laptop.
If the set up above doesn’t work , what adapter or options will I need to make the audio work

For Picture: I will connect the HDMI cable to the HDMI OUT or CAMERA OUT (picture) and the other end will connect to this adapter ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B091NX27 ... asin_title ) and from this adapter to the USB B/C port on the laptop.

What other basic options may work with the setup in the tech room?

Ipiu2 wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 7:40 pm For Audio: Connect 3.5m to AUDIO IN and the other end to this adapter ( https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External ... VQ0F8?th=1 ) and from this adapter to the laptop.
If the set up above doesn’t work , what adapter or options will I need to make the audio work

You need to find an AUDIO OUT jack.

Thank you for putting this together. Very helpful to see what others are doing for zoom.

Note: Theres a setting in zoom where the host can unmute participants, but participants must approve when signing on to the meeting. Check out your zoom settings. Thx

Surfing4u wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:33 am

Wattsuk wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:27 am

helmsovi wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:45 pm In the PDF document that was attached to your post, you mentioned connecting by Bluetooth to a TinySine to use the building's audio. What is a TinySine and how do I find one to purchase? The video quality on a Zoom broadcast is great for Stake Conference, but the audio is not very good. This sounds like a great option to improve the audio quality of a Zoom broadcast.

How are you currently routing your audio from the building to the Zoom device?

Do you have the "enable original audio" box ticked?

You can watch here to see:
Video Links:
Buildings with Pre-wired Camera systems: https://youtu.be/iZEGO_5wlpY
Buildings with-out: https://youtu.be/JNP3sNsEVOs

Josh

Thanks for the video. It's given me some perspective. For a long while, we have been using a webcam mounted on the rostrum and a device for the hard of hearing and a crab box for Zoom audio so we haven't needed an audio mixer. We have temporarily changed to the webcast system using the chapel camera to relieve the bishopric of this task. In a short two weeks, I need to switch back to Zoom using the chapel camera and audio and that's where I am running into a snag. We were sent a Razer Ripsaw USB Capture Card. I am running the video and audio through the Ripsaw and OBS. Video works but not audio. You are apparently channeling your audio and video inputs directly into Zoom without OBS. If this is correct, I may be causing my own problem.

By the way, is your PTZ camera HD or do you have a transcoder? If you have an HD camera, what model is it?

Thanks!