Can someone grant access to LCR for other callings

13 postsstarted by Joslynkp 6,516 viewsoriginal topic

New Member
#1
I am the compassionate service coordinator in my ward. I have a committee with two additional members. We organize meals and service for the sisters in our ward as well as deliver birthday treats. Neither I or my committee has access to LCR so we have to ask the Relief Society presidency to send us the names of the visiting teachers and home teachers of families that we are organizing service for. We also have to ask them to send us a list of birthdays for the month, which they are unable to print so I am receiving multiple screenshots. We would like to be given access to visiting/home teachers, and birthdays to better serve our calling and to take some of the weight off of the R.S. presidency. Is there a way to do that?
Senior Member
#2
I'm afraid that access is strictly based on callings and the rights each calling gets is determined by the general authorities in charge of those systems. There is no way for a unit to grant rights to additional callings.

However, the RS secretary should be able to create a birthday list as a PDF without a problem. If they can't then a clerk can.
Community Administrator
#3
Joslynkp wrote:I am the compassionate service coordinator in my ward. I have a committee with two additional members. We organize meals and service for the sisters in our ward as well as deliver birthday treats. Neither I or my committee has access to LCR so we have to ask the Relief Society presidency to send us the names of the visiting teachers and home teachers of families that we are organizing service for.... We would like to be given access to visiting/home teachers, and birthdays to better serve our calling and to take some of the weight off of the R.S. presidency. Is there a way to do that?
No. Access to LCR is granted by calling. The calling a person has determines what features they can access in LCR (or whether they have access to LCR at all). No one has the ability to grant access to anyone beyond those access rules that are built into the system.
Joslynkp wrote:We also have to ask them to send us a list of birthdays for the month, which they are unable to print so I am receiving multiple screenshots.
The Birthday List should be easy to print, specifying 12 months starting in January. That's something the RS secretary could do, which you could then work off of, making adjustments or reprinting as sisters move in or out. I checked the Access Table, and the RS Presidency has access. And anyone who has access to the Birthday List should be able to print it -- I just did so with no difficulty.
Questions that can benefit the larger community should be asked in a public forum, not a private message.
Senior Member
#4
Wards and Stakes often configure their org structures vastly differently, there is just no way to account for items like this. If I were in this situation, I'd talk to the RS President and suggest either a counselor or the secretary be added to the committee to accommodate the things you're being asked to do that you don't have access to, Simple and easy solution to the situation.

Its not just you there are often things that a Bishop/Stake President/Clerk have access to that Counselors don't have access to. The idea is limit access to personal information to the smallest number of people that will still allow the template organization to work.
“A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom.”
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Senior Member
#5
Besides going to one of the ward clerks, as someone had suggested, you could also ask the RS secretary to get the report. Such a task might fit will with someone who has the secretary calling.
New Member
#6
I have a ward that has called two assistant clerks but there is only space in the ward callings list for one. How do I list the calling for the ward assistant clerk and still give him access? If I create the calling in other he has no access rights. Any options there. There is a space for an assistant finance clerk but I think that will give the incorrect access. Please advise.
Community Moderators
#7
You should be able to add any number of ward assistant clerks, using the dropdown menu.
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
Senior Member
#8
nbingham1 wrote:I have a ward that has called two assistant clerks but there is only space in the ward callings list for one. How do I list the calling for the ward assistant clerk and still give him access?
Go to the Bishopric organization, click the Add Another Calling link and select Ward Assistant Clerk under Standard Callings from the drop down box that appears.
New Member
#9
I agree that Compassionate Service Leader should have access to assigned Ministering Brothers and Sisters
New Member
#10
I am a Stake Relief Society President. One of the wards RS Service Coordinator is having this same challenge. She used to have access to LCR (ministering assignments) so that she could assign service with ministering as the key focus. But was recently unable to access ministering anymore. Her calling relies on ministering information (who is assigned to who) in order to organize and delegate service. It is difficult for her to be having to ask the RS president for this information--this calling has sudden needs arise and having the Tools available to her is key. I believe this is an oversight where simply, it is not understood that this calling needs access to key information.
Community Moderators
#11
goodwinfam wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:06 pm I am a Stake Relief Society President. One of the wards RS Service Coordinator is having this same challenge. She used to have access to LCR (ministering assignments) so that she could assign service with ministering as the key focus. But was recently unable to access ministering anymore. Her calling relies on ministering information (who is assigned to who) in order to organize and delegate service. It is difficult for her to be having to ask the RS president for this information--this calling has sudden needs arise and having the Tools available to her is key. I believe this is an oversight where simply, it is not understood that this calling needs access to key information.
In LCR, if you go to Other -> Access Table, then select the role (calling), you should be able to see what LCR features, reports, forms, etc. that calling has access to. It's showing me that a ward RS Service Coordinator has access to the Ministering Assignments Summary and Members Moved In reports but not to any of the non-summary ministering functions.

It's unlikely the denial of access to ministering details is an implementation bug, because IIUC very close attention is paid to that table. However, you might ask your stake president to raise the issue up his chain of command.

Meanwhile, and in case access it not restored, there is a ward-level calling of Relief Society Ministering Secretary that would give access to the full group of ministering details and a few other reports. Provided the bishop agrees that this individual should have that access, that should provide access.
Member
#12
Yes, it looks like things changed back in November https://tech.churchofjesuschrist.org/fo ... 10#p245818

Ours had to start going through the summary rather than through the individual member page. It works, but not the quickest process.
Community Moderators
#13
goodwinfam wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:06 pm I am a Stake Relief Society President. One of the wards RS Service Coordinator is having this same challenge. She used to have access to LCR (ministering assignments) so that she could assign service with ministering as the key focus. But was recently unable to access ministering anymore.
According to the LCR Access Table the standard callings 'Relief Society Service Coordinator' and 'Relief Society Assistant Service Coordinator' have access to the Ministering Assignments Summary report. If they do not have access, then have the ward clerk check to see if they are listed with custom callings rather than the standard callings. A custom calling can be spelled exactly the same as the standard calling but have no permissions of any kind granted in the system. Custom callings will be identified with an "*" in front of the calling name in the callings reports.
JD Lessley
Have you tried finding your answer on the ChurchofJesusChrist.org Help Center or Tech Wiki?