It's on it's way, but I think his announcement was premature. We were promised "1Q 2015", but that's not over yet. And it's been delayed once.webbjwyo wrote:Our Stake Tech person said we could now report home teaching on LDS.org and did not have to do it on MLS any longer.
Also note that there are no plans in the initial release for members to personally report their home/visiting teaching. The first release will simply implement the functionality currently in MLS. Although plenty of people have requested the ability for members to report their HT/VT, I've not seen that feature listed in any published plans, so I wouldn't count on such a feature being available anytime soon.webbjwyo wrote:If this is true can someone guide me to where it is so my Elder's and HP can report from home. And is the same true for RS Visiting Teaching?
Where is that information coming from?t0008sa wrote:Looks like the implementation is now scheduled for 2Q 2015.
Good point.jonesrk wrote:I think part of the reason for that time frame is that there will be a beta period and it will definitely not be out of the beta before the end of Q1.
Also, after everything's finalized, they need to get it translated into 35 languages.jonesrk wrote:I think part of the reason for that time frame is that there will be a beta period and it will definitely not be out of the beta before the end of Q1.
Does this mean it is available? Or is it slated for availability in June?Home and visiting teaching management. Using the Organizations menu, high priests group leadership, elders quorum presidencies, and Relief Society presidencies can now manage home and visiting teaching information for their respective organization. Stake home and visiting teaching reports are also available.
That is when it will be released according to the current schedule. It's currently in alpha test with a few stakes involved (those who have a member of the development team in them). It will then presumably go through a beta test with some additional units. If there are significant problems in either stage the release could be delayed.winddani wrote:Has anyone noticed the release notes for LCR "Release 3.0Date Released: 17 June 2015" (https://www.lds.org/help/support/clerk- ... s?lang=eng)?
It states that:Does this mean it is available? Or is it slated for availability in June?Home and visiting teaching management. Using the Organizations menu, high priests group leadership, elders quorum presidencies, and Relief Society presidencies can now manage home and visiting teaching information for their respective organization. Stake home and visiting teaching reports are also available.
I believe that is referring to your stake being a part of the beta. Rights to LCR are controlled by the callings a member has.sch39 wrote:Our stake just got moved to the Beta Test of LCR. It says though in using it that users must be authorized by stake pres. What does this mean? Is there a button in the stake pres. version to authorize this?
You are referring to the line in the BETA LCR 3.0 details:jonesrk wrote:I believe that is referring to your stake being a part of the beta.sch39 wrote:Our stake just got moved to the Beta Test of LCR. It says though in using it that users must be authorized by stake pres. What does this mean? Is there a button in the stake pres. version to authorize this?
And it goes on to say the reason is that it deals with "live" membership records and data. I don't think your stake president has a "button" in any "stake president version" to authorize you to use this in your stake, so if you have questions about his authorization for you to use the BETA 3.0 in your unit, perhaps your branch/stake clerk or one of his assistants could answer if your president is aware of the BETA or has any concerns about his units using it."Your stake president must authorize your using the beta version of Leader and Clerk Resources."
jonesrk wrote: In this case the migration to LCR 3.0 takes some time on our side at church headquarters, so instead of just releasing 3.0 to everyone we are moving large groups to the beta, until for the last group LCR 3.0 will just be released and the beta will be over.
EDIT: You can learn exactly how it happens here.danvandam wrote:I was just informed by my ward clerk that we are a part of the beta trial for this. I went online and noticed that all of the changes we made on Thursday June 4th did not carry over to the online beta version. Does it take a few days to update? Did our changes get lost in translation?
Yes. We have removed the beta notification, so users won't be getting this as we proceed with the roll out.kisaac wrote:I think at this point, the major testing has been done, and it seems the BETA 3.0 of LCR is really just a slow roll out of the final release
This is not likely. This has been requested for more than eight years and the response has always been negative. You can search the forums for many of the threads on this topic.draperg wrote:(2) Hope the Church releases a public API for accessing HT/VT assignments, and update my app to use it.
Similar efforts have been offered in the past with negative results. That being said, I do not want to discourage continued efforts that may have some positive results. You should check out the Project Wiki for getting involved in LDSTech projects.draperg wrote:(3) Or if the Church prefers to keep the HT/VT API private, I could simply donate my code to the Church and let them develop it either in-house or as an officially sponsored LDSTech project.
The work-around we use is to have my clerk email me the PDF of the LCR 3.0 HT app printout "household assignments: All home teaching." (which I wish listed quorum or group responsibility.) You could go old school and print it out for the quorum and group leadership. I suspect there is also an option to Print (or save the PDF) of the quorum or group assignments separately....davidc65 wrote:One thing that I think we need.....for the Elders and High Priests to be able to see each other's companionships and assignments.
I've been wondering about this also. I haven't checked with our EQ president to find out what he sees on the "Home & Visiting Teaching" page. I am wondering if there is the "Quorum / Auxiliary :" drop-down list box in the upper right corner that allows him to select the two priesthood organizations as well as Relief Society. If so, then viewing of all HT/VT is possible.kisaac wrote:Learning curve caution: Is somebody sure that an EQ president or HP group leader can't see a report of ALL HOME TEACHING for themselves if they were shown how to do it?
Send feedback using the feedback link found at the bottom of the LCR page.davidc65 wrote:Also, our HPG Assistants are both reporting not being able to even get to HTing. Is there a ticketing system to report specific issues to and get specific help on similar to the messaging system in MLS.
Did that, but that isn't the same as the messaging system in MLS. Giving feedback is not the same as a direct interaction system where somebody helps me troubleshoot a problem and helps me either get to a resolved state or at least acknowledges that there is a bug in the system that will have to resolved in another release.jdlessley wrote:Send feedback using the feedback link found at the bottom of the LCR page.davidc65 wrote:Also, our HPG Assistants are both reporting not being able to even get to HTing. Is there a ticketing system to report specific issues to and get specific help on similar to the messaging system in MLS.
I'd suggest you sit down with them and see the problem for yourself rather than accept their "report".davidc65 wrote:Also, our HPG Assistants are both reporting not being able to even get to HTing.
That's a good suggestion. I proxied as one of them and was able to get in to HT.russellhltn wrote:I'd suggest you sit down with them and see the problem for yourself rather than accept their "report".davidc65 wrote:Also, our HPG Assistants are both reporting not being able to even get to HTing.
Make sure the MRN shown on their account matches the MRN of the member you've put in that position.
Absolutely! Before "escalating" these issues into feedback and reports to developers, it might be best to make a "face-to-face, and bring-your-device" meeting after church with them, or meet in the clerk's office and watch them navigate with their login on the clerk's computer, and ask them to show you the problem they see.russellhltn wrote:I'd suggest you sit down with them and see the problem for yourself rather than accept their "report".davidc65 wrote:Also, our HPG Assistants are both reporting not being able to even get to HTing.
"You're using your spouses account?"
"Yes, we share our Lds.org login."
The change takes place when the stake switches to LCR and MLS switches to read only. I believe for most stakes in the U.S. and Canada, that has already happened, but there may still be some left that have not been switched by Church headquarters.davenportkariann1 wrote:When will visiting teaching coordinators have access to lcr and be able to make changes and do reporting in the system instead of MLS?
This process is complete for all units worldwide that will have these capabilities in LCR 3. There are several hundred units that are not changing, primarily due to limited Internet access. If you're on the LDSTech forum, odds are pretty high that your unit is not on that list!lajackson wrote:The change takes place when the stake switches to LCR and MLS switches to read only. I believe for most stakes in the U.S. and Canada, that has already happened, but there may still be some left that have not been switched by Church headquarters.
Use the Feedback link on any page at LDS.org to get your suggestion to the developers. An additional method is to use the feedback/bug reporting link on your mobile device to request the capability. That will get your suggestion to the developers of your mobile device, but not to other developers working on other types of devices, although I think they trade notes from time to time and make an effort to provide similar capabilities on each of the various mobile devices.rachbill wrote:Where can we make a suggestion . . .
I suggest you make that suggestion on the feedback option of the device you use: If you use lds.org, make the suggestion there, if you use Lds tools on a mobile device, I think they have their own feedback options. We are repeatedly told that the developers see these feedbacks...rachbill wrote:Where can we make a suggestion to have a home and visiting teaching app. Just to view who someones HT or VT is stuff like that. Not necessarily for reporting purposes. It's kinda of a drag all of the steps required to look at lds.org online on your phone.
As mentioned previously out-of-unit members cannot currently be assigned to home teaching or visiting teaching companionships in LCR. If an out-of-unit member is companioned with a member of the unit then you will have to keep track of these companionships outside of LCR. As long as one of the companions is a member of the unit then HT visits or VT visits can be recorded.DWMoore46 wrote:Under LCR Membership and Home/Visiting Teaching, we have them identified as Out-of-Unit members, but we are unable to assign them as Home/Visiting Teachers in the Branch.
If both of the companions are out-of-unit then you will have to use a work-around. The companionship and who they teach will have to be tracked outside of LCR. The definition of "unassigned" as used in this post refers to prospective elders and single sisters who are not assigned to a companionship in LCR. Therefore prospective elders and single sisters assigned to be taught by out-of-unit companionships will remain "unassigned" in LCR.DWMoore46 wrote:This make it impossible for the Branch Clerk to assign and report on their visits to members in the Care Center. Is there any way this can be corrected? If not, how can we document these visits?
Having a Deacon as a HT doesn't square with the Handbook. LCR is more faithful to the Handbook than MLS was.Bruno2u wrote:I am not able to allow a Deacon to be a home teacher on the High Priest companionship add. Add Deacon is not an option. MLS would allow this under "all" for companionship add.
That should be possible. See this threadBruno2u wrote:Also the same as adding a spouse to home teach with the husband.
He may want to counsel with the stake president.Bruno2u wrote:My Bishop has been having the Deacon's assigned to home teach even though the handbook says that home teaching is the primary responsibility of Teacher, Priests, Elders, and High Priests.
Provided you have the appropriate calling then sign into LDS.org and go to LCR. Then select "Home and Visiting Teaching" in the "Callings" column on the "Organizations" menu item. Home teaching visits can be record at either the "Households" or "Companionships" tab.richtuckers wrote:how do you get into the home teaching reporting
If you have an appropriate calling in the Elders Quorum or High Priests Group, you can sign in to LDS.org and then go to Leader and Clerk Resources. From there you can record visits and run reports.richtuckers wrote:how do you get into the home teaching reporting
If you're looking for the list, you'll have to contact your ward's EQ or HP Group. The information is not available on-line outside of ward leadership.kamualai wrote:Halawa Ward Elders Quorum Home Teaching Assignment List
No.rwoodbu wrote:Is there a way to import Deacons into Home Teaching Companionships?
Handbook 2: 7.4.2:rwoodbu wrote:Is there a way to import Deacons into Home Teaching Companionships?
The assigned home teachers and visiting teachers should be visible when looking at a member's record (the one accessible from the Member List) in LCR. As far as I know there is no way to view all of the companionships at once for other organizations.skneish wrote:How can a RS President see the HP or EQ HT companionships and families and vice versa (HP or EQ President see VT companionships and sisters?)
Thank you. That's too bad. Our leaders have been used to coordinating. Now they are wondering how to share and look up. As Executive Secretary, I can see all the companionships but I'm not sure how to print out or share them either.eblood66 wrote:The assigned home teachers and visiting teachers should be visible when looking at a member's record (the one accessible from the Member List) in LCR. As far as I know there is no way to view all of the companionships at once for other organizations.skneish wrote:How can a RS President see the HP or EQ HT companionships and families and vice versa (HP or EQ President see VT companionships and sisters?)
I figured out how to print. Hit the "Print" button on the top rightskneish wrote:Thank you. That's too bad. Our leaders have been used to coordinating. Now they are wondering how to share and look up. As Executive Secretary, I can see all the companionships but I'm not sure how to print out or share them either.eblood66 wrote:The assigned home teachers and visiting teachers should be visible when looking at a member's record (the one accessible from the Member List) in LCR. As far as I know there is no way to view all of the companionships at once for other organizations.skneish wrote:How can a RS President see the HP or EQ HT companionships and families and vice versa (HP or EQ President see VT companionships and sisters?)
Make sure "Private Browsing" is turned off.courtmama wrote:Any ideas on why my iPad isn't allowing me to access?
I'm not sure what this means. Where would I find that setting?russellhltn wrote:Make sure "Private Browsing" is turned off.courtmama wrote:Any ideas on why my iPad isn't allowing me to access?
I googled it and found it had something to do with Safari. I was using Chrome. I switched to Safari and it works. Not sure why, but I'm happy.courtmama wrote:I'm not sure what this means. Where would I find that setting?russellhltn wrote:Make sure "Private Browsing" is turned off.courtmama wrote:Any ideas on why my iPad isn't allowing me to access?
There is a bug that causes issues when using home and visiting teaching with Google Chrome on an iPad that was triggered by a recent Chrome update. We have been working on a fix that will be released in October.courtmama wrote: I googled it and found it had something to do with Safari. I was using Chrome. I switched to Safari and it works. Not sure why, but I'm happy.
Go to the Companionships tab.bertarickenbach1 wrote:How do I get the September, October, November forms for reporting Visiting Teaching?
Families in the ward. Or more particularly, Heads of Household in the membership record keeping system.tsterner wrote:Home teaching percentages - How are these calculated ie what is the denominator?
Certainly true at the ward level. I thought there was something that skewed the numbers at the quorum level. Like the whole "unassigned" thing.lajackson wrote:Families in the ward. Or more particularly, Heads of Household in the membership record keeping system.tsterner wrote:Home teaching percentages - How are these calculated ie what is the denominator?
Well, yes. An unassigned head of household who is an elder is in the elders quorum denominator. An unassigned head of household who is not an elder is in the high priests denominator.russellhltn wrote:I thought there was something that skewed the numbers at the quorum level. Like the whole "unassigned" thing.
Actually, it hasn't changed much since this function was moved to Leader and Clerk Resources. And no one here at the Forum has anything to do with the programming of the site. It is all done by programmers at Church headquarters who function under assignment from the Priesthood Department.jwebber1 wrote:Why have you made it so difficult to find and report home teaching visits? Each month you put in something new.
I suspect the haters are the ones who gathered the minimum information for the old system (people visited) and when they found "there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon", they were upset. Either that or they're complaining about the interface.scgallafent wrote:meaning that there are now three states: visited, not visited, and not reported. Feedback is split pretty evenly between people who love it and people who hate it.
I absolutely love it. That's something that I've wanted for a long time. At least now you know if someone was contacted so two different people don't keep bugging someone over and over when they didn't go that month.scgallafent wrote:There is a recent change that has triggered lots of feedback. We added the ability to record when a member was not visited, meaning that there are now three states: visited, not visited, and not reported. Feedback is split pretty evenly between people who love it and people who hate it.
If someone didn't visit them, maybe the teachers should be bugged by two different people.bryaneh wrote:At least now you know if someone was contacted so two different people don't keep bugging someone over and over when they didn't go that month.
Yes, the HT/VT support was released globally in June of 2015. It is only available to quorum and Relief Society leaders. Members cannot record their visits themselves. We've been told that there are no plans to add that ability.OneSavvySweetie wrote:I'm curious if this is still in BETA or if it has been launched globally. Additionally, is it available to all members to do their reporting, or only to supervisors or presidents?
Visiting teaching
Re: Visiting teaching
Many users have brought this up in the past. Unfortunately this forum is user to user based and we have no big influence on changes made. The best way to request this feature is to use the feedback feature at the bottom of the page in LCR.carlackw wrote:After changes are made to companionship's and sisters assigned to that companionship, we need to be able to see what was prior to the changes...otherwise, you have no idea who was assigned to who if you don't have it all printed out before you make the changes. I.E. you make some changes in the middle of the month to take effect the next month but you would still like to see what is current. Hope that makes sense...
A ward can split its Relief Society into 2 or more groups (similar to having multiple priesthood quorums). If you're seeing "Relief Society 2" then that means that your ward has a second RS group. If that was done accidentally, then a clerk will need to remove the second group.dsigns wrote:What is Relief Society 2 on the visiting teaching reports-who is it?
When you go to Leader and Clerk Resources, and then select Organizations / Home and Visiting Teaching, there is a drop down menu box at the right under Print. Select Relief Society and you should be able to see what you saw in the clerk's office. The page defaults to the high priests group.annetitterson wrote:how can I report the visiting teaching for the ward from my home computer .
lajackson wrote:When you go to Leader and Clerk Resources, and then select Organizations / Home and Visiting Teaching, there is a drop down menu box at the right under Print. Select Relief Society and you should be able to see what you saw in the clerk's office. The page defaults to the high priests group.annetitterson wrote:how can I report the visiting teaching for the ward from my home computer .
The Household tab allows you to report sisters visited by name, or you may prefer the Companionships tab.
russellhltn wrote:It's on it's way, but I think his announcement was premature. We were promised "1Q 2015", but that's not over yet. And it's been delayed once.webbjwyo wrote:Our Stake Tech person said we could now report home teaching on LDS.org and did not have to do it on MLS any longer.
Secondly, even when it's available, it may not be available to you immediately. Someone has to make a decision as to when you switch from MLS to on-line. It affects both HT and VT. When the switch is made, MLS can no longer be used for data entry, only for historical information.
Last I heard hasn't been decided if that decision will be made at the ward or stake level.
I'm not sure what the meaning of your post is. The first post from lajackson you quoted was fairly recent (28 November 2016). The second post from RussellHltn was way back in 2 March 2015, before the HT/VT features were available on LDS.org.davidjpoe wrote:lajackson wrote:...russellhltn wrote:...
Just change your quote of "visits and contact" to "visits or contact" and then it will be correct.jpmproto wrote:That would indicate to me that we count "visits" for the report for Home Teacher and "visits and contact" for Visiting Teachers.