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Does anyone have or know where i can get Sunday bulletins in MS Word format? The area we are serving in does not have bulletins and i want to get them started.
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scion wrote:If I did it correctly, a sample ward bulletin Word doc should be attached.
Another Sample Bulletin in MS Word
Ward Bulletin Online
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Church Name on the program?
Why would it be a problem to have the name of the church on a program if the program is used in a church meeting? Heres' a link to a page that discusses the acceptable styles that may be used in reference to the Church's name.alinford wrote:Someone said that we were not allowed to have the name of the church on the program. Has anyone else heard this?
I don't know of any reason you wouldn't be able to include the name of the Church. What is prohibited (in this or any other context) is attempting to arrange the words of the name of the Church in an attempt to imitate the Church's logo. The Church is careful about usage of the official logo -- it should only be used in authorized places, and then the actual logo should be used, not an approximation.alinford wrote:Someone said that we were not allowed to have the name of the church on the program. Has anyone else heard this?
Direction is in the CHI
I don't have a copy of the CHI at home, but we went over this a year ago in regards to use on the stake conference program. My president's interpretation of the guidance in the CHI matches #1 above.larrydkb wrote:I think the consensus is that you can use the church name in either of two ways:
1. Just type it normally: [Your] Ward of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or
2. Use the official logo [found elsewhere on this forum], but keep it dignified.
The written name of the Church (not the logotype) may be used in local units when all of the conditions listed below are met:
1. The activity or function with which the name is associated (for example, a sacrament meeting program) is officially sponsored by the unit.
2. The name of the local Church unit is used as a prelude to the name of the Church (for example, Canyon View Ward of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints).
3. The typeface does not imitate or resemble the official logotype.
Yes, it is the 2006 release for book 1.larrydkb wrote:jdlessley/JLRose, is this the most recent CHI?
Yes, there is more there. You should counsel with your Bishop. If he has any questions he should refer to the CHI.larrydkb wrote:I don't have access to it; is there more written there?
After further review of the CHI and the referenced Church Name and Logotype Guidelines for Local Unitsdocument it is apparent that the logotype can be used on a unit sacrament bulletin. However, there are significant restrictions and cautions in doing so. The CHI instructions, while not available to everyone for reference, is available to your Bishop and his counsel should be sought regarding this matter. The Church Name and Logotype Guidelines for Local Unitsdocument posted on the forums is a good source for the Church membership who do not have access to the CHI and as a source to photocopy or scan the logotype for authorized use. The CHI references the Church Name and Logotype Guidelines for Local Units.
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Ward Bulletin MS doc
tennisjenny wrote:I just joined myself and wanted to know what progrma you use for your bulletins. They are very nice.
Ms Publisher is a DTP included into Office suite.timoty_eldredge wrote: I use Microsoft Office Publisher.
I don't know about an "approved" selection of templates. But on the wiki someone could certainly start a page that collects user-contributed templates.dannykos wrote:It would be great if there was an approved selection of pre-designed templates from the church, that wards could use for things like sacrament meetings / baptismal services / ward newsletters etc.. etc..
It's okay for wards with graphic designers amongst the membership - but the vast majority of the wards produce work of varying standards. This used to be acceptable, but in todays media savvy world - people coming into the church would expect a certain level of professionalism.
I wonder if a central repository of templates, produced in Quark / Indesign / Publisher / Word etc would be all that difficult. It would certainly save thousands of 'person' hours throughout the church!
The document was in the FAQ of the forums. It has not been relocated or renamed but removed. We do not know if it will be reposted or not.JamesAnderson wrote:Just discovered that the document on proper use of the Church logotype referenced in this thread is gone from the clerk site, the document has apparently been renamed and so the old URL was replaced with another one. Anyone have the new one?
There is official information in the Church Handbook of Instructions (see this post) on the proper use of the Church logotype, and there was an official document at one point in the FAQ of this site (see this post), but as jdlessley mentioned above, this FAQ document is no longer available here.Techgy wrote:I've not seen anything official in regards to the Church LOGOS, except for the Rights and Use Informationlink at the bottom of lds.org
Openoffice Sacrament Programme & Speaker Invite Template
Another Example Ward Bulletin
Automated bulletin generation?
While this discussion is probably a new thread topic, a simple "bulletin" could be automated by the programmers in charge of MLS, similar to how the new form "new and returning members" or the "ordinance" forms are generated, using pull down lists where you can select your ward members for the talks, prayers, organists, etc. I would love it for the fact that our names would no longer be misspelled, and they would always be the preferred names.nekcih wrote: I spend at least 2 to 3 hours per week working on the ward bulletin. That seems excessive considering that much of this work could be entirely automated....
I think it would be awesome if the church provided and official web app to build ward bulletins!
Amen to That
The prior "bulletin person" in our ward went to great lengthes to fill up both sides of a tri-fold bulletin. They included the program, announcements and filled in with quotes and lots of graphics. It wasn't bad, just full.drkelly wrote:My advice is to not over-think the ward bulletin. Just make it simple and don't try to do everything with it.
folding adds time....
Who does the folding, and how much time does just this "folding" take? We've discussed a folded bulletin, but the extra time to fold them seemed troubling.JLRose wrote:The prior "bulletin person" in our ward went to great lengthes to fill up both sides of a tri-fold bulletin...
When my wife took over the bulletin, she switched to a bi-fold format...
I've seen at least one ward that does a tri-fold style, but they pass them out as a single unfolded sheet of paper. The end result is they get a lot of mileage out of the space.kisaac wrote:Who does the folding, and how much time does just this "folding" take? We've discussed a folded bulletin, but the extra time to fold them seemed troubling.
We are currently making 70 copies each week. I haven't timed it, but our process goes like this:kisaac wrote:Who does the folding, and how much time does just this "folding" take?
3 column ward bulletin
We need to be careful about making generalized statements about the church's intellectual property. They set the rules regarding the use, or non-use, of their logos, typefaces, images, music, publications, etc. Some things they have made clear we can copy, such as most (but not all) hymns out of the Hymn Book. There are other things we can't freely copy.nverrill wrote:Using the church name on the bulletin is fine. It is an introduction to visitors to our services and therefore should state what services they are attending and the name of the church where they are being held. Also, the person making the ward bulletin is representing the church in doing so and that also authorizes it's use.
According to copyright laws a representative of a firm may use it's logo, photocopy it's documents etc. Anyone making a ward bulletin is just that, a representative of the church, and therefore may use church owned images, quotes, the logo and other content with out violation of any laws.
For example, as a teacher of a Sunday School or primary class you can even make copies of the friend or Ensign without violation of copyright laws because you are acting as a representative of the church to distribute it's materials to it's members. Not to mention that this example falls under education categories of copyright law and is therefore okay to use anyhow.
I used to work in a print shop and was thoroughly educated on copyright laws to avoid lawsuits.
Be very careful in giving legal advice. Even a lawyer (or should I say especially lawyers) will not make generalized statements such as those made here.nverrill wrote:[T]he person making the ward bulletin is representing the church in doing so and that also authorizes it's use.
According to copyright laws a representative of a firm may use it's logo, photocopy it's documents etc. Anyone making a ward bulletin is just that, a representative of the church, and therefore may use church owned images, quotes, the logo and other content with out violation of any laws.
While Church members and Sunday School or other class or quorum instructors may copy Friend, Ensign, Liahona, or other publications of this nature, it is not because they are acting as a representative of the Church. It is because advance permission has been granted to do so. You can find this permission inside each publication that reads like this one found in the Ensignnverrill wrote:For example, as a teacher of a Sunday School or primary class you can even make copies of the friend or Ensign without violation of copyright laws because you are acting as a representative of the church to distribute it's materials to it's members. Not to mention that this example falls under education categories of copyright law and is therefore okay to use anyhow.
As you can see even with this permission there are restrictions.Copyright information: Text and visual material in the Ensign may be copied for incidental, noncommercial church or home use. Visual material may not be copied if restrictions are indicated in the credit line with the artwork. Copyright questions should be addressed to Intellectual Property Office...
Dispensing legal advice without the appropriate license to do so is the one thing that could get you into a legal trouble.nverrill wrote:I used to work in a print shop and was thoroughly educated on copyright laws to avoid lawsuits.
jdlessley wrote:Be very careful in giving legal advice. Even a lawyer (or should I say especially lawyers) will not make generalized statements such as those made here.
As a body membership of the Church we do not legally represent the Church. We are not employees with representative rights or authority as found in commercial or corporate entities. Even for commercial entities only corporate officers and certain employees have recognized authority to represent the company. Within a ward the bishop is the only one with limited legal authority to represent the Church.
To cover such situations as unit bulletins the Church has published instructions outlining suitable uses of the logotype and the Church name (see Handbook 2: Administering the Church, 21.1.10). Those instructions should be followed. Most Church publications include applicable use instructions to include suitability to reproduce or copy for such situations as internal or home use. Some require prior written consent or even prohibit reproduction or copying because of copyright agreements. You will find that some documents, such as Handbook 1, specifically prohibit reproduction or copying except under specific restricted situations.
While Church members and Sunday School or other class or quorum instructors may copy Friend, Ensign, Liahona, or other publications of this nature, it is not because they are acting as a representative of the Church. It is because advance permission has been granted to do so. You can find this permission inside each publication that reads like this one found in the Ensign As you can see even with this permission there are restrictions.
Dispensing legal advice without the appropriate license to do so is the one thing that could get you into a legal trouble.
Corrective Criticism on Logo
nverrill wrote:According to copyright laws a representative of a firm may use it's logo, photocopy it's documents etc. Anyone making a ward bulletin is just that, a representative of the church, and therefore may use church owned images, quotes, the logo and other content with out violation of any laws.
21.1.10 Church Name and Logotype
The Churchβs name and logotype are key Church identifiers. They are registered as trademarks or are otherwise legally protected worldwide. They should be used only according to the following guidelines.
Local units may use the written name of the Church (not the logotype) when all of the following conditions are met:
- The activity or function with which the name is associated is officially sponsored by the unit (for example, a sacrament meeting program).
- The name of the local unit is used as a prelude to the name of the Church (for example, Canyon View Ward of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints).
- The typeface does not imitate or resemble the official Church logotype.
The Churchβs official logotype (see the front cover of this handbook) is to be used only for items approved by the Correlation Department at Church headquarters. Examples of these items are:
- Official Church publications and stationery.
- Missionary name tags.
- Meetinghouse exterior signs.
The logotype may not be used as a decorative element or a computer screen saver. Nor may it be used in any personal, commercial, or promotional way, such as on family history books, T-shirts, buttons, or banners. Questions may be directed to:
Intellectual Property Office 50 East North Temple Street, Room 1888 Salt Lake City, UT 84150-0018 Telephone: 1-801-240-3959 or 1-800-453-3860, extension 2-3959 Fax: 1-801-240-1187 E-mail: cor-intellectualproperty@ldschurch.org
You might want to read Handbook 2: 21.1.10 Church Name and Logotypejanet_bosley wrote:I use spiritual photos with the official logo,
That is correct. You may use the full name of the church if used in connection with the local unit name but you cannot use the logo or try to make the full name of the church look similar the logo.donnabaer wrote:Hi, I'm making our Sacrament Meeting bulletin for the first time this week (short notice). Am I understanding you correctly? I cannot use a Snippet of the church logo on the bulletin?
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Re: sharing this?
I love it! Can you share in its source format?seguetester-p40 wrote:OK, I will throw my template in to the mix too. I have been doing the program for about 3 years now. It has gone through about 5 or 6 format changes and is in a constant state of flux. Its current format as attached has been in use for a few months. We no longer have a printed stake directory/calendar so you will note lots of contact information and stake calendar items that attempt to compensate for this.
It takes me about 45 minutes to update all of the content and about 20 minutes to print 75 copies. Prints are double sided of course and are on 8.5"x14" paper. I can fold the programs as fast as they come out of the printer so it takes about 70 minutes start to finish for the entire tasks...on a good week. I do fold each program individually and each program receives 2 fold of course. The printed content boxes make folding easy since you know exactly where both folds need to be made.
And yes, I am aware that I am using the official logo. Is it a correct or authorized use....I am not sure. But, my bishop is fine with it so I am too.
Good Morning!
Attached is the digital version of the program for today.
Thank you for using the digital version at church so that visitors and those who do not use electronic devices will have the printed program available to them.
Kathy Fowkes
Ward Bulletin Specialist
Hello, Where are the templates? I see our responses but no link for them. Thanks!sldsld01 wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:19 pm jarishansen, you are awesome! I used your template to create what I think is the best ward bulletin I've seen. When people compliment me, I just tell them that it came from some guy on the internet. I'm sorry it's taken me so long to remember where in the world I even found this template because I've been meaning to thank you for a year now. So even though it's late, thank you!
I believe that sldsld01 is referring to this postlindajeanhammond wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:46 pmHello, Where are the templates? I see our responses but no link for them. Thanks!sldsld01 wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:19 pm jarishansen, you are awesome! I used your template to create what I think is the best ward bulletin I've seen. When people compliment me, I just tell them that it came from some guy on the internet. I'm sorry it's taken me so long to remember where in the world I even found this template because I've been meaning to thank you for a year now. So even though it's late, thank you!