Access to Sacrament Hymns beyond Sunday

22 postsstarted by tubaloth 5,361 viewsoriginal topic

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#1
A simple problem.

I'm the ward technology specialist, after I was called the Bishop decided to try to start doing Sacrament Meeting programs again. (the plan was to do online -- QR code version, but he decided to start printing it too).

Our ward music leader puts the Sacrament meeting hymns in the Library app. She is really good at putting the hymns weeks ahead of time.
The issue is, I can only see the Hymns in the app on Sunday. I can see all the ones she has entered and I take a screenshot of the coming weeks, but is there no way for me to be able to see the hymns beyond sunday?
The ward music leader has made last minute changes to the hymns, she will update them in the app, but sometimes she forgets to send me the changes. -- If she does send me the changes, its just a screen shot of the hymns in the app.
I wish there was a way for me to access the hymns entered, either in the app or online beyond just on sunday. -- a source of truth of where I can go to look them up each week.
For some reason the Hymn section only shows up on sunday, which makes sense for the rest of the ward, but is there some way I can still see the hymns even if it not sunday? -- Hide it deep somewhere.

There was a thought of putting me as some music person in the computer to give me access, but I'm not if that would work if I'm not actually the music leader.
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#2
In the hymns panel, tap the 3-dots and select "View All" to see them all.
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#3
Yep, but it only shows up on sunday. Are you able to see it on other days?
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#4
There used to be another way but I can't recall how at the moment.
#5
In the Gospel Library FAQ, it lists who has access:
These ward or branch callings can select sacrament meeting hymns:
  • Music Coordinator
  • Music Leader
  • Accompanist
  • Bishop (or Branch President)
  • Bishopric First Counselor (or Branch Presidency First Counselor)
  • Bishopric Second Counselor (or Branch Presidency Second Counselor)
  • Ward Executive Secretary (or Branch Executive Secretary)
  • Ward Clerk (or Branch Clerk)
  • Ward Assistant Clerk (or Branch Assistant Clerk)
Hymns can be selected using the Callings card on Home.
As a Ward Clerk, here are some screenshots of what I can see from the Callings card on Home.
Gospel Library app - Callings card
Gospel Library app - Callings card
Gospel Library app - Select Hymns - 1 year previous
Gospel Library app - Select Hymns - 1 year previous
Gospel Library app - Select Hymns - 1 year future
Gospel Library app - Select Hymns - 1 year future
I can go back one year and forward one year. Our ward also tracks music selections in a spreadsheet and we archive our conducting sheets and ward bulletin/program/announcements.
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#6
tubaloth wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:09 am Yep, but it only shows up on sunday. Are you able to see it on other days?
It is available, but it's pretty hidden. Tap the three dots on the Quick Links card, then choose "View Sacrament Meeting Hymns." That will show the full list of past and future hymns (up to a maximum of one year) that have been entered. This is available to all signed-in members, and it's a little safer than going to the edit view (less likely to accidentally change something).
greenwoodkl wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:43 pm In the Gospel Library FAQ, it lists who has access:
These ward or branch callings can select sacrament meeting hymns:
…
Also the ward technology specialist (the FAQ hasn't been updated yet since that change).
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
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#7
greenwoodkl wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:43 pm In the Gospel Library FAQ, it lists who has access:
These ward or branch callings can select sacrament meeting hymns:
  • Music Coordinator
  • Music Leader
  • Accompanist
  • Bishop (or Branch President)
  • Bishopric First Counselor (or Branch Presidency First Counselor)
  • Bishopric Second Counselor (or Branch Presidency Second Counselor)
  • Ward Executive Secretary (or Branch Executive Secretary)
  • Ward Clerk (or Branch Clerk)
  • Ward Assistant Clerk (or Branch Assistant Clerk)
Hymns can be selected using the Callings card on Home.
As a Ward Clerk, here are some screenshots of what I can see from the Callings card on Home.
Screenshot_20250622_223008_Gospel Library.jpgScreenshot_20250622_223037_Gospel Library.jpgScreenshot_20250622_223059_Gospel Library.jpg

I can go back one year and forward one year. Our ward also tracks music selections in a spreadsheet and we archive our conducting sheets and ward bulletin/program/announcements.
That is interesting, but doesn't help me much because technology specifically is not in the list. Unless the church can start to give me access.
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#8
sbradshaw wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:28 am
tubaloth wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:09 am Yep, but it only shows up on sunday. Are you able to see it on other days?
It is available, but it's pretty hidden. Tap the three dots on the Quick Links card, then choose "View Sacrament Meeting Hymns." That will show the full list of past and future hymns (up to a maximum of one year) that have been entered. This is available to all signed-in members, and it's a little safer than going to the edit view (less likely to accidentally change something).
greenwoodkl wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:43 pm In the Gospel Library FAQ, it lists who has access:
These ward or branch callings can select sacrament meeting hymns:
…
Also the ward technology specialist (the FAQ hasn't been updated yet since that change).

I don't have the option for "view sacrament meeting hymns"

I'm not sure how to paste a picture from my home here.

Is ward technology specialist and standard call? It looks like they have my call as more a custom calling.
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#9
It works for me on Android. I don't hold any Ward callings.

Make sure you're on the home page.
Locate the "Quick Links" tile
Click the three dot option on Quick Links.
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

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#10
russellhltn wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:21 pm It works for me on Android. I don't hold any Ward callings.
Definitely well hidden, but definitely there. I hold no call either that would give access.
Senior Member
#11
If you don't have the Quick Links tile on your home page (like I didn't), you have to select Edit Home at the bottom and add it.
Church Employee
#12
tubaloth wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:29 pm Is ward technology specialist and standard call? It looks like they have my call as more a custom calling.
Yes there is a standard calling of Technology Specialist at the ward level (it's under Other Callings -> Technology). I'd have your ward clerk change your calling to that one. It won't change your access here but it will likely give you better access to some things you need.
New Member
#13
I am only 15 so no ward calling but I am able to see it, it really is hidden though
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#14
Tb0ne4 wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:41 pm I am only 15 so no ward calling but I am able to see it, it really is hidden though
Can you explain in a little more detail how the hymns are hidden and what path you found to get to them?
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#15
rmrichesjr wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:53 pm Can you explain in a little more detail how the hymns are hidden and what path you found to get to them?
By my personal definition, something is hidden when I root around in an app and cannot find what I am seeking. It is especially frustrating when I am fairly certain I saw it earlier. It is even more frustrating when I have searched several times in what I believe are obvious places and have not been able to find something.

In this case, I followed the instructions others posted here.

russellhltn got me almost all the way there.
"Make sure you're on the home page.
Locate the 'Quick Links' tile.
Click the three dot option on Quick Links."

What was missing from his instruction was filled in by davesudweeks:
"If you don't have the Quick Links tile on your home page (like I didn't), you have to select Edit Home at the bottom and add it."

Those two posts will get anyone to the complete hymns list in Gospel Library. A person who has permission to edit the list does not have to go to all that trouble.

Helping to confuse the issue is that on Sundays, when the hymns are shown (if you have that section selected on your home page), there is an obvious link that will allow anyone to see the entire listing.


Another more subtle example is found in Member Tools, where it is often suggested here at the Forum that a Data Refresh will usually help when a Manual Sync does not solve the problem. Finding the Refresh Data link is tricky. It is located in Settings near the bottom, in the Temple Recommend Expiration Reminder section. The second sub-item there, "Refresh Data", should probably be its own left margin main item, because it will totally download all of the Member Tools data, not just the temple recommend data. There is a warning when you select the link to remind you that you will receive an entire stake data download.
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#16
tubaloth wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:29 pm I don't have the option for "view sacrament meeting hymns"
I'm not able to find anything about "ward hymns" or "sacrament meeting hymns" on the Church website. Where is this information found?
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#17
ambldsorg wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 8:35 am Where is this information found?
Much of it is in Gospel Library Help.
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#18
lajackson wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:03 am Much of it is in Gospel Library Help.
Perhaps I have misunderstood. Is it, or is it not, possible to view the hymns that will be sung in Sacrament meeting in my Ward this coming Sunday using the Church website?
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ambldsorg wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:01 am
lajackson wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:03 am Much of it is in Gospel Library Help.
Perhaps I have misunderstood. Is it, or is it not, possible to view the hymns that will be sung in Sacrament meeting in my Ward this coming Sunday using the Church website?
On the Church website, no. But in the Gospel Library mobile app for iOS and Android, yes (make sure you're signed in > Quick Links section on Home > three dots > View All Sacrament Meeting Hymns).
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
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#20
sbradshaw wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:11 am
ambldsorg wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:01 am Is it, or is it not, possible to view the hymns that will be sung in Sacrament meeting in my Ward this coming Sunday using the Church website?
On the Church website, no. But in the Gospel Library mobile app for iOS and Android, yes ...
Well, that's unfortunate. I wonder if this will ever be made more widely available.
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#21
ambldsorg wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 2:26 pm
sbradshaw wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:11 am
ambldsorg wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:01 am Is it, or is it not, possible to view the hymns that will be sung in Sacrament meeting in my Ward this coming Sunday using the Church website?
On the Church website, no. But in the Gospel Library mobile app for iOS and Android, yes ...
Well, that's unfortunate. I wonder if this will ever be made more widely available.
I'd love to see it on the website too (especially for the leaders adding hymns), but I don't think it will happen in the near term, because far more people around the world are connected to the internet via phones than computers, mobile apps are better optimized for phone use cases (especially limited bandwidth and connectivity), and most people don't have their computers with them in sacrament meeting (where sacrament meeting hymns data is most used).
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
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#22
ambldsorg wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 2:26 pm I wonder if this will ever be made more widely available.
It would be nice. But in our ward, often the information is not available from our music folks very far in advance.