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Is there an established way to record Ward youth camp assessments (including number of youth and cost per youth) and recording later Ward payments to the Stake?
How to record youth camp assessments and payments
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Is there a different or better forum for me to ask this question? We are thinking of creating our own method using spreadsheets if there is no established method.
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There isn't an established system that I'm aware of for tracking individuals' payments for camps. General Handbook 34.6.2.2 discourages having members pay for activities*, so I think it's unlikely that a regular system will be created by the Church to track member payments.
*Not entirely forbidden, but discouraged.
*Not entirely forbidden, but discouraged.
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But Handbook 20.6.2 explicitly allows for it in the case of Youth Camps. It's a step between fully funded by budget and annual fundraising.sbradshaw wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:10 pm There isn't an established system that I'm aware of for tracking individuals' payments for camps. General Handbook 34.6.2.2 discourages having members pay for activities*, so I think it's unlikely that a regular system will be created by the Church to track member payments.
*Not entirely forbidden, but discouraged.
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It allows for it, but it starts out "If the ward or stake budget does not have enough funds for the activities listed below…" so it seems like more of an exception than a rule – and the Church doesn't usually dedicate as many resources to those cases. That doesn't mean it won't be added, I just wouldn't expect it in the short term.russellhltn wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:40 pm But Handbook 20.6.2 explicitly allows for it in the case of Youth Camps. It's a step between fully funded by budget and annual fundraising.
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Ok, but I'm pretty sure they're aware that the exception is the rule more than it's the exception.sbradshaw wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:39 pmIt allows for it, but it starts out "If the ward or stake budget does not have enough funds for the activities listed below…" so it seems like more of an exception than a rule – and the Church doesn't usually dedicate as many resources to those cases. That doesn't mean it won't be added, I just wouldn't expect it in the short term.russellhltn wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:40 pm But Handbook 20.6.2 explicitly allows for it in the case of Youth Camps. It's a step between fully funded by budget and annual fundraising.
And since it's dealing with the handling of church funds, I'd think it would be fairly high on the list.I'm getting the impression that whatever requirement there was for keeping these funds separate isn't as big an issue as it used to be.
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Yes. There are three ways of funding youth camps that should be used in the following order:russellhltn wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:40 pm Handbook 20.6.2 explicitly allows for it in the case of Youth Camps. It's a step between fully funded by budget and annual fundraising.
1. Budget
2. Participant
3. Fundraiser
There is also a need to track the youth FSY payment.