no more classic maps

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New Member
#1
Is the church planning on something to replace classic maps? I love to follow my kids and ward members on their missions and the meetinghouse locator does not have mission and stake boundaries outside of your home stake. At one time the church produced large PDF mission boundary maps, and when they discontinued that they sent us to Classic maps. Now I hear that Classic maps is going away on October 15, 2022. Will there be a way to access mission boundaries for the church?
#2
I also like classic maps because they quickly gave me some idea of how ward boundaries tend to be drawn, which I've used as guidance for boundary re-alignments I've been involved with.
Senior Member
#3
Seems official -- this banner is currently shown at the top of the classic maps page, which (for now) can be accessed via the Site Map page, and then the "Find by Using the Map (All Types of Locations)" link:
Please be aware that Classic Maps will be retired on October 15, 2022. Map resources still available include Find a Meetinghouse or Ward and Ward Directory and Map (Church members only). PF Maps users (Church employees only), please go to PF Maps 2.0.
As with many others, throughout the years I've found multiple helpful uses for classic maps.

Going forward, it seems like access to boundary details outside one's Stake will be removed. The Find a Meetinghouse maps do show building locations, which gives a potential general idea of "who worships where", but nothing specific.
Community Administrator
#4
BrianEdwards wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:26 am Going forward, it seems like access to boundary details outside one's Stake will be removed.
Bishoprics, Stake Presidencies, including clerks and secretaries still have access to PDF maps in CDOL.
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Senior Member
#5
I had assumed the restored CDOL access was just a temporary stopgap and would eventually also be removed (as it seems was the original intent). But while it lasts (and I hope it does!), you're correct that's an option.
Community Administrator
#6
BrianEdwards wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:26 pm I had assumed the restored CDOL access was just a temporary stopgap and would eventually also be removed (as it seems was the original intent). But while it lasts (and I hope it does!), you're correct that's an option.
I think a replacement to CDOL is being developed. As long as the PDF maps are still being created and don't go the way of the KLM files, I don't think that will disappear.
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#7
I would use the info on Classic maps and convert it to a wall map and print out a poster sized mission map for kids in my ward and family members going on missions. After the 15th I won't have access to mission boundaries anymore. kind of sad. I wish they had a way to access that information. I wonder if I could get a GIS shape file or something like that?
Community Administrator
#8
It looks like letter sized PDFs are still available from CDOL. Ask the clerk to retrieve them for you.
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#9
From an e-mail sent me by the Meetinghouse Locator Response Team: "The Meetinghouse Locator Classic LDS Maps view has been permanently discontinued".
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#10
What has happened to Classic Maps. Every day I talk with people from all over the world using Facebook. I have a Facebook page "Alan Dixon's Spiritual and Inspirational Thoughts" where I post each day several quotes from the prophets and apostles and others. New friends following my page want to talk with me. So instead of chit chatting with them, I share my testimony and ask them if they would like the missionary contact information, so they can contact the mission office and request the missionaries to teach them. If they say yes, I ask for their city and country where they live. I used Classic Maps to locate which mission they live in and give my friend the mission office contact information. I instruct my friend to contact the mission office and tell them, Alan Dixon from Utah USA and a member of their church, referred them to the missionaries to be taught more about Jesus Christ, His restored church and the living prophet on the earth today. I tell them to make sure they give their name, email address, phone number, postal address, city they live in and to make sure they ask for the missionaries to teach them more about Jesus Christ.

Over the past two+ years I have talked with thousands of people from all over the world and shared my testimony with most of them. I have giving out the mission office contact information to over 1,000+ friends. I know of over 30 friends who have been baptized and there may be many more that I'm not aware of yet. Using Facebook has been a wonderful way for me to share the gospel to any one around the world.

But I need to find the mission boundaries and the mission office contact information to continue sharing my testimony every day,

Is the another place I can access this information or is Classic Maps coming back?
Community Administrator
#11
See the post before yours. It indicates that classic maps is not coming back.

You can use the Meetinghouse Locator to identify wards, but I don't see a way to identify missions.

You could use Morman.org's Meet with the missionaries page. It looks like it will route the request automatically.
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#12
This is super disappointing. There are a lot of positive uses to being able to find boundaries for other Stakes, Missions, and Temple Districts. None of these things are a secret, and with a lot of sleuthing you can find them. I hope someone in tech at the church is working on some form of a replacement. This is really a step backwards. :( :cry:
Community Moderators
#13
mpollmann wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:09 pm I hope someone in tech at the church is working on some form of a replacement.
They may well be. But plans and schedules are rarely revealed to the general membership. Another thing to understand is the customer is not us, the members. It is the department, council, or committee that sponsors the web sites, programs, etc. The ICS department works on instruction from outside their department, which is of bit differently from commercial enterprises.
JD Lessley
Have you tried finding your answer on the ChurchofJesusChrist.org Help Center or Tech Wiki?
Senior Member
#14
There are a lot of positive uses to being able to find boundaries for other Stakes, Missions, and Temple Districts.
As long as CDOL remains available to the local leadership (another question entirely), this provides the ability for leaders to access Unit, Stake, and Mission boundaries (I personally cannot see Temple boundaries in CDOL, but CDOL lists the Stakes in a Temple District so you could piece things together). Obviously this approach isn't as "useful" as Classic Maps, interactive maps are much better of course than having to download and then display individual pdf's for each and every boundary you're interested in. But at least it's an option.
Community Moderators
#15
BrianEdwards wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:47 am CDOL lists the Stakes in a Temple District so you could piece things together).
This site also lists the stakes that are assigned to a temple, in case you do not have access to CDOL. It is not an official Church site, but it is very accurate and the Church is aware of it. I do miss classic maps, though.
https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/
Church Employee
#16
aldixon wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:51 pm Over the past two+ years I have talked with thousands of people from all over the world and shared my testimony with most of them. I have giving out the mission office contact information to over 1,000+ friends. I know of over 30 friends who have been baptized and there may be many more that I'm not aware of yet. Using Facebook has been a wonderful way for me to share the gospel to any one around the world.

But I need to find the mission boundaries and the mission office contact information to continue sharing my testimony every day,

Is the another place I can access this information or is Classic Maps coming back?
You can share referrals in Member Tools now. It lets you enter as much contact info as you have and looks like it will direct the referral to the correct mission.
New Member
#17
What a horrible thing to get rid of...it was one of the most useful tools I regularly used....
New Member
#18
The removal of classic maps is really diasppointing. I work in an area office of the church and frequently look for units (stakes, wards, districts, branches, missions, etc.) all throughout the area. I know there ar pdf's in CDOL that I can use, but the interactive maps were much more useful. Looks like I will need to find a new way to get things done.
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#19
ronbburn wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:51 am The removal of classic maps is really diasppointing. I work in an area office of the church and frequently look for units (stakes, wards, districts, branches, missions, etc.) all throughout the area. I know there ar pdf's in CDOL that I can use, but the interactive maps were much more useful. Looks like I will need to find a new way to get things done.
Because you work in an area office, I would recommend passing feedback up through the area leaders or your supervisors. They may be able to provide something better for your use cases.
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
New Member
#20
When looking information on the new area to which one of my missionary grandsons is being transferred I discovered that the boundaries of all kinds of wards can be seen in meetinghouse locator, along with contact information for serving bishops and branch presidents when one is signed in with a church account. Locate a candidate meetinghouse, click it, and then click wards using that meetinghouse. This is a fair though more tedious substitute for the classic maps boundary overlays. YSA wards, other language wards, and SA wards also show boundaries which often span all of one or more stakes. The remaining classic maps links go to meetinghouse locator. So I took the hint,
New Member
#21
And something more just discovered: left click anywhere on the meetinghouse locator map, and you get the kind of ward selected in the search filter along with lat and long AND other wards also covering the same area. COOL. In the detail for each ward, the stake is also given.
New Member
#22
As edserr pointed out you use to be able to see any ward boundary in the meet house locator if you were logged into your membership account but that appears to have been removed sometime since then. As dropping a pin to locate a ward boundary now only centers you on the building the selected ward attends.
New Member
#23
Alan your post is inspiring!
Have you tried the new "find a place to worship" feature? https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/com ... -a-church/
or the "request someone to go with you" that shows up as an option on the meeting house locator?
I use the locator to find a meeting house to attend when I'm traveling...seems like it might help your dilemma. And I'm excited about the new "request someone to go with you" feature because it connects directly to the missionaries.