Child baptized at 9yrs old does not appear on Progress Record

Our missionaries asked why a 9yr old child who was recently baptized does not appear as a recent convert on their Progress Record. This is new to me because I think they should as well. However, if they were a child of record before and then get marked as being baptized after age 9, maybe that is why it does not feed over to the progress record? Maybe those arent programmed to transfer over for the missionaries.
Would love anyone else's input on this.

The first question that comes to my mind is, "does the child have a membership record yet?" In my experience, missionary baptisms are sometimes not recorded in a timely manner. If the child doesn't show in the records, or doesn't have a baptism date listed, I would ask the missionaries to check with their mission office to see if the baptism has been recorded.

I think I read elsewhere in the forum that wards can now record these baptisms also so if that is true and the mission office has not recorded the baptism, the clerk should be able to do so.

davesudweeks wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:52 pm
I think I read elsewhere in the forum that wards can now record these baptisms also so if that is true and the mission office has not recorded the baptism, the clerk should be able to do so.

That statement is true! In the past the mission office have failed to record the baptism, sometimes for months. I now inform the missionaries, because the mission office may have not informed them that the ward can create the baptismal record, that we will do it once they hand over the completed paperwork. I also ask them to inform the mission that, we the ward will do the necessary, so there is no duplication!

I wonder if the flag for whether or not a baptized member should appear on the progress record is based on whether the membership record was created by the mission or the ward (which would have worked under the old system when missions always recorded baptisms for members 9 or older).

sbradshaw wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:55 pm I wonder if the flag for whether or not a baptized member should appear on the progress record is based on whether the membership record was created by the mission or the ward (which would have worked under the old system when missions always recorded baptisms for members 9 or older).

Interesting idea. An 8 year old who was baptized with their their convert parents would also be treated as a convert - which seems right to me.

Since this is a child-of-record baptism, either the rules allow a 9 year old to be treated the same as a 8 year old, or this is a corner case error ( >9 was used when >=9 should have been used ).

Another thought is whether this is tied to the Church's recent grouping of children/youth in year-age buckets. GHB 31.2.3.2 does state converts are >=9, but maybe there's coding logic somewhere that treats a 9 year old convert who already has a membership record, as a child-of-record baptism until the end of the calendar year, regardless of whether they were still 8 or already 9 when baptized?

BrianEdwards wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:09 am Another thought is whether this is tied to the Church's recent grouping of children/youth in year-age buckets. GHB 31.2.3.2 does state converts are >=9, but maybe there's coding logic somewhere that treats a 9 year old convert who already has a membership record, as a child-of-record baptism until the end of the calendar year, regardless of whether they were still 8 or already 9 when baptized?

Thanks for all the replies. I agree with this one, it must be some logic error. I know the Church has good feedback reviews so will submit the review on the LCR page. To me it seems that there should be clarification for the missionaries on how RC's are now counted by the church or for the logic written in LCR.