michaelgraham wrote:Unfortunately none of the youth advisors, specialists, or even class/quorum presidencies seem to have access. Is this a case where the announcement is ahead of the technology or will that limitation remain in place?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
This is just typical follow the handbook to the letter even if an 11 year old is expected to navigate church websites like a pro, Bishops and Bishoprics, Stake Presidencies have never been told how this all works and everyone just assumes when things roll out that the relevant callings will have access. I have tried to work with Bishoprics over the years to understand this but they have access to everything, they have no idea how the 'role-based' access works or that it's even a thing. In our DQ meeting, Sunday our Bishopric member demonstrated this to all the DQ Presidency and advisers, and action plan was created, the DQP was asked to use his keys to make an assignment, and afterwords I had to inform the Bishopric member that it didn't work the way he thought.
So our DQ will be using paper, and our member of the Bishopric, the only person with the access is now tasked with another administrative item he shouldn't need to perform. He could be giving meaningful service, but instead he has to log into a website to transfer stuff from paper to the computer, only after someone has taken the time to either stop by the Deacon's home and pick that paper up, or have them drop it off or, digitize it and send it over. Does this seem trivial? Sure, it does, but over the years this is exactly how things go, over and over a limited release, then eventually after months of 'how does this make sense' going on, the access is expanded....... And as proof, they just expanded access only so that Youth Specialists NOW, only NOW have the same access that the Advisers did when the youth program rolled out.
I'm only saying this because here are the facts. Bishoprics, if they ever do find out that the rational thing wasn't originally rolled out will find workarounds, once the access finally catches up, nobody cares because the workaround is already in place. The only thing this causes in the church is animosity, thinking that the church doesn't know what it's doing. Your average member doesn't understand 'least privilege access' They don't understand that in Europe there are differences in how online information access is handled, they just think it's dumb that youth presidencies don't have access to the online tool developed for them to keep track of attendance, and if that isn't enough, the advisers that are assigned to be their subject matter experts don't have access either.
But hey, we weren't as a church general overall vision, finding ways to free up Bishopric members's time, right? I mean, the Bishop should be taking attendance for the Priests quorum right? Makes sense that he's the only one in that Quorum that can do it?
-Frustrated IT person who finds himself continually explaining least-privilege acces to people who have no concept of what it is and why it's important and doesn't understand himself why tools roll out that aren't usable - I mean, heck, it's not like we want access to the tithing records for crying out loud.
“A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom.”
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense
