abn.churchofjesuschrist.org?

While we're here, what is the new "abn" that replaces "www" for the url? Are we now a part of the Australian Business Network?

Anything in front of the domain is just a server name. Not sure what's going on, but perhaps they feel too much is going to "www" for the load handling system.

Maybe we're just abbey-normal.

I have the same question - my home page is the church website, and it looks completely different...I'm NOT in Australia, although I would love to visit there someday...this is USA

I'm not seeing anything new – abn.churchofjesuschrist.org redirects to www.churchofjesuschrist.org for me. Could you post a screenshot?

Now the homepage looks the same in Chrome as previously, although url says abn.etc. In Firefox, I see at the top a large picture of Christ with the invitation, "We are a diverse...", then below, similar links as in Chrome, but in a different arrangement...
Just wanted to be sure nothing weird was happening to my computer.
Can't figure out how to post a screenshot.

sylviachristensen wrote:Now the homepage looks the same in Chrome as previously, although url says abn.etc. In Firefox, I see at the top a large picture of Christ with the invitation, "We are a diverse...", then below, similar links as in Chrome, but in a different arrangement...
Just wanted to be sure nothing weird was happening to my computer.
Can't figure out how to post a screenshot.

I think the church may be doing some A/B testing and the abn probably stands for A/B network or something like that.

In A/B testing you have two versions of a web page which you randomly (or perhaps based on some criteria) show one of the two versions and then capture information about where people went from there. I just went to http://www.churchofjesuschrist.org and it redirected to abn.churchofjesuschrist.org and showed a new main page layout.

Guess I'll just "enjoy the ride" as the new url seems to change arrangement regularly...Now if my Gospel Library notebook would display the highlights on my computer as entered on my tablet...It's just great to have such portable scriptures, etc.
Thanks!

I just checked in a different browser (Chrome) and it gives me this helpful message instead of loading the page...

This message indicates that whatever you were trying to do worked.

Laughing.....the page keeps changing, and it's all good. Thanks!

This message indicates that whatever you were trying to do worked.

This is so funny. If only it were also true.

okay, so no need to worry about pages that show: undefinedundefined 404 This page could not be found.

????

trying to send feed about the tools app not working. other pages are also giving me this error.

Both Chrome and Firefox are showing 500 internal server error for the home page tonight. Most of the links across the top, however, are working.

The homepage (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng) loaded as expected once I logged in. When I log out, I got kicked back to the other server (https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng). This may be a way the Church handles authentication and allow content to be adjusted to the user who is viewing the content.

Main page comes up as: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng in Chrome, then refreshes immediately to: abn.churchofjesuschrist.org//?lang=eng then goes back to the original site numerous times, the stops at the following error:

502 Bad Gateway: Registered endpoint failed to handle the request.

Tried in the most recent Chrome, and MS Edge (not Chredge) with same response.

FYI

Just started for me today on two computers using Chrome. Enter URL of lds.org or churchofjesuschrist.org and immediately redirects to abn.churchofjesuschrist.org, then redirects back to churchofjesuschrist.org in what seems to be an eternal loop. Can't get to the main page. It works fine to go to a different page such as churchofjesuschrist.org/temples, but if I click on the link back to the main page the eternal loop starts again.

I am having the same endless loop problem exactly as described by markekelund on Jan 10, 2020. Also am using a Chromebook. Hope this gets straightened out soon!

The endless switching between https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng and abn.churchofjesuschrist.org//?lang=eng began yesterday evening Friday January 10, 2020. Uninstalled and reinstalled Chrome browser. Same problem continued. As others reported going to other pages such as Ward Directory will allow access without problems. However if I click on the church logo it takes the browser to the main church page and begins again switching between the two previously cited urls. Please help.

I don't seem to be able to load the church's home page. The web browser keeps going back and forth from abn.churchofjesuschrist, to the regular one but never completes or stays on the page long enough to click on anything.

davidvgoliath wrote:I don't seem to be able to load the church's home page. The web browser keeps going back and forth from abn.churchofjesuschrist, to the regular one but never completes or stays on the page long enough to click on anything.

I think you’ll find that this is an issue on the Church side of things. I know of a couple of members who have had the same issue today.

Would like to know why ABN is the redirect on the website. My new homepage is way worse than it was before. Help

I cant even see the page ... is jumping from abn. To www. ... some help please !!!

For me in Chrome it is impossible to use churchofjesuschrist.org.
The page automatically reloads between the abn version and normal version.
The reloading is so fast and constant that I cannot click on any link.
Is there something wrong with my Chrome settings?

I was able to log in to the church website, using an incognito tab

I'm having the same problem that everyone else is having and it's been going on for days. I did open an incognito window and was able to use the website that way but I'd rather not do that. I hope they fix the problem soon.

abn.church.... problem. Can't use the tab at all in which it tries to open the church website. Flashes between ann & http constantly. What can I do? I am on a mac. Tried sending this once already and it says it couldn't. Same problem as mentioned above. Help please?

I'm trying to access the churchofjesuschrist.org, but it is reloading for the abn.churchofjesuschrist.org all the time, without stop in any page. It is happening jut in the English page, in Portuguese or Spanish it is going to the page normally.

This should be resolved.

Yesterday at night It was normal again, thanks ^^

This is not good. This just started to happen to me the last 2 weeks. It redirects to this new url. Some quirks begin to show up in the loading of the page, ie. it won't load chapter 9 of Preach My Gospel, it reloads the header on Church of Jesus Christ Homepage differently, it stutters on loading other links in the churchofjesuschrist home page. Someone smarter than I needs to look into this and find out cause and create a fix.

Can anyone explain why I can no longer access the scriptures or some of the highlighted areas on the home page since abn. started showing up as a prefix to the website address? When I click on "scriptures and study", it flashes a picture of that screen, then flips to the one mentioned with the large picture of Christ. When I try "scriptures and study" on that page, it goes to a dead end screen.

I am also getting the abn. However, i am being linked to the news room and when i try to access scripture i am being directed to what the address says is the Book of Mormon title page, but i have a blank screen. When I remove the abn from the address bar i then get connected to the "real" church web sight. There is a standing joke in our office that goes something like "when IT says they are working on the computers, be very afraid." Not too long ago the new web sight, the one similar to the gospel app, was great, worked great, was a pleasure to use. Now of a sudden it is AMU (all messed up).

I only get the abn when I am not logged in to my account. When I am not logged in and try and access any of the hyperlinks, other than those that redirect to me a different website like ComeUntoChrist.org, I get redirected to a blank page with the URL https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study

If I log into my account, then I get directed to the regular ChurchOfJesusChrist.org page.

If i go to the scriptures or come follow me, the page goes blank... I dont like this abn thing...

Me too. Is no one on the church tech staff looking at this problem. Most annoying.

ys7426 wrote:Me too. Is no one on the church tech staff looking at this problem. Most annoying.

The best way to be sure somebody is officially looking at the problem is for you to use the 'Feedback' link or button to report whatever problematic symptoms you are seeing. This is a user-to-user discussion forum, and there's no guarantee anyone in the development organization will see this topic.

I have been having this problem for two weeks now also. It consumes lots of time I don't have.

I tried some tests on this, I noticed this about two weeks ago and hadn't experienced any issues until today when I tried to use the online version of the Book of Mormon and scripture library. Here's my experience:

Using any of the "chrome" based browsers I get redirected:
Chrome
Firefox
Microsoft Edge Beta
Seamonkey

I wondered if it was privacy tracking related as all of the Chrome based browsers now have extensive "privacy browsing" features automatically turned on. You can see those show up by site or in the settings. In this case when I loaded www.churchofjesuschrist.org it redirected to abn.churchofjesuschrist.org
Click the "lock" next to the hostname.
You'll see that there are items that are blocked under cookies (demdex website / dependancy)
I tried turning off privacy tracking / blocking for both abn.churchofjesuschrist.org and www.churchofjesuschrist.org and it still does the redirect.

When I turned on debugging in the browser I see several references to failed loading of resources due to "privacy / tracking prevention" - (see "chrome debug" image attachment) - this "demdex.net" resource is related to Adobe tracking and I wonder if the development tools on the the LDS website are references these resources, failing due to cross site dependancies and privacy blocking, and then redirecting the user to the more "static" website version under "abn.churchofjesuschrist.org"

I turned off all privacy tracking on Firefox and still get redirected to abn.churchofjesuschrist.org
I also went back to the scriptres > Book of Mormon and it's blank still

However, I logged in and then went back to the main homepage and it looked "normal" (see "Homepage after login" screenshot)
going back to "Book of Mormon" it's still blank


Internet Explorer 11
However, I just verified that when I tried to go to https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org in Microsot Internet Explorer 11 I did not get redirected.
With IE without logging in I went to Scriptures and Study > Book of Mormon and the page loads as expected
Logging in with my LDS account, got hung after login(blank new screen) BUT I was authenticated and I see "My Account and Ward" and My Name
Go back to homepage, refresh - OK, stay on www.churchofjesuschrist.org
Go back to Scriptures and Study > Book of Mormon and the page loads as expected

I'll have to try some more stuff

The issue seems to be getting worse for me. Often I need to not only clear all cookies but restart my browser as well to remain signed in. Currently while preparing for Seminary in the morning in morning my notes disappear while I can see I am still signed in...or..they are there and but my name or region are not visible in the upper right indicating that I am NOT signed in. A bit crazy making at 5:30 in the morning. I have to sign in multiple times during an active 2 hour period

This morning I noticed that the lesson manual's url is abn https://drive.google.com/file/d/14E-Flp ... sp=sharing

and the scriptures are www. https://drive.google.com/file/d/12wBbnL ... sp=sharing

Not sure what the answer. I do know this is new. Perhaps "abn" and "www" do not communicate with each other well.

Any suggestions???

Thanks!

Cutter

It seems "abn" links are used by the developers to test different layouts on the web site, which can sometimes cause these issues. As mentioned above, using the 'Feedback' link at the bottom of the page is probably the best way to report the problems.

If I am redirected to abn I am nerve able to sign in on the teachers manual. I am taken back to my home page. This has been going on for over 11 weeks. Here is my work around:

I delete the the abn and insert www. It works every time. Often tech peeps do not check their work.

cutterji wrote:If I am redirected to abn I am nerve able to sign in on the teachers manual. I am taken back to my home page. This has been going on for over 11 weeks. Here is my work around:

I delete the the abn and insert www. It works every time. Often tech peeps do not check their work.

I'd recommend sending feedback using the Feedback link on the Church website, to let the website team know.

The Church website is not working on my husband's apple computer, but works on my pc. It opens with no toolbar at top and most features do not work and the "abn" url comes up on some features. Does anyone know what might be going on?

mclynne wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:34 pm The Church website is not working on my husband's apple computer, but works on my pc. It opens with no toolbar at top and most features do not work and the "abn" url comes up on some features. Does anyone know what might be going on?

abn.churchofjesuschrist.org is used for A/B testing. You could try clearing the browser cookies for ChurchofJesusChrist.org. If that doesn't work, I would recommend sending feedback at the bottom of the Church website about the missing toolbar or broken features.

on a 2021 M1 MacBook pro, Safari, when we go to "scriptures" from the church landing page, we see the icons of the various books, then the server pushes us from [moderator edit: removed broken link] to https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1648175881
and the new screen has no functionality.

This was apparently a widespread glitch pre-COVID in 2019 based on the thread, and we're writing to say - it's still a glitch.

My screen shot is attached.

Thank you,
Christine

[moderator edit: removed an apparently broken link that redirected to an odd place]

Just a guess on my part, but was the broken link intended to point here? https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... atform=web

In my browser (Firefox ESR), the above link redirects to one that appears comparable to the one that starts with "abn", but for me they both show what appears to be the Gospel Library.

One odd thing about the Church websites is sometimes one or more cookies gets too long and/or gets corrupted. Clearing the browser cache and deleting relevant cookies can often help if that's the cause of the problem.

By interesting coincidence, today, I received a reply about a different issue I had reported on the Church website. Paraphrasing:

If a URL starts with "abn", it's part of a developer test of different layouts. If the "abn" test is causing a problem, you can disable the test for that page by appending a query parameter to the end of the URL. If the URL already has a '?' in it (which marks the start of query parameters), add this to the end of the URL:

&mboxDisable=1

If the URL does not already have a '?' in it, add this to the end of the URL:

?mboxDisable=1