Sacred Funds, Sacred Responsibilities video

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Does anyone know where I can find the link to this new Training Video please,as I need to send the link to all the Unit Leaders and Clerk in my Stake within the UK.

Can anyone help please.

Kind regards,

Michael
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Dana Repouille, Plattsmouth, Nebraska
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I get a page not found when I click or copy this link into a browser. Please help?
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You need to be logged in to the web site using an account that has access to the Record Keeping Help Center articles.
Dana Repouille, Plattsmouth, Nebraska
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Back on 4 Dec 2019 when I became aware of this new training video, I sent the link to my bishopric, and asked them each to watch the video. Yesterday, we received an email from our stake auditor, quoting a new question on the end-of-year audit. The question asks if the bishopric, ward clerk, and assistant clerk for finances "met together" to watch this video during the audit period.

This is the first I have heard of any requirement that we view this video together. Since the assistant clerk never meets with the bishopric, that seems like a strange requirement.
Dana Repouille, Plattsmouth, Nebraska
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drepouille wrote:Back on 4 Dec 2019 when I became aware of this new training video, I sent the link to my bishopric, and asked them each to watch the video. Yesterday, we received an email from our stake auditor, quoting a new question on the end-of-year audit. The question asks if the bishopric, ward clerk, and assistant clerk for finances "met together" to watch this video during the audit period.

This is the first I have heard of any requirement that we view this video together. Since the assistant clerk never meets with the bishopric, that seems like a strange requirement.
Luckily our stake sent us a heads up about the requirement to meet together to watch the video.
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We got dinged on this question, because it says it must be watched during the audit period. The audit period ended December 31st. Our Stake didn't even inform us this was a question until Jan 22nd. Good grief. Every Ward in my Stake will fail this question.
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But will the bishopric be required to watch this same video "together" during every audit period?
Dana Repouille, Plattsmouth, Nebraska
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I wonder why this information isn't sent directly to the ward clerks rather than routing through the stake, or at least send it simultaneously to both.
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chriswoodut wrote:I wonder why this information isn't sent directly to the ward clerks rather than routing through the stake, or at least send it simultaneously to both.
Our stake president was assigned by the area seventy last fall to see that this video was shown to everyone in the stake who handles finances, and to report back to the area seventy within 30 days that the assignment had been completed.
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The video Sacred Funds, Sacred Responsibilites was developed under the direction of the Presiding Bishopric. An email that our Area Audit Committee sent to the Stake Audit Committee stated that the video is to be watched during each audit period (that is twice a year). Those watching it must be together while watching it and must have a discussion following each segment of the video. The process is modeled on the video with Elders Ballard, Soarez, and Causse having a discussion between each segment. It is well done, of course, and will remain in the Record Keeping section of the Help Center probably for many years. Get used to viewing it.
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We had our local audit yesterday, and received an email 3 days prior from our auditor, with the request to meet and watch it together before the audit. So a somewhat-similar situation where local leaders were made aware of this requirement last-minute. We squeezed it in (fulfilling the letter of the law), but had other pressing issues so couldn't discuss it (missing the intent, perhaps). Perhaps other Stakes are more pro-active in giving a heads-up.

My actual question regarding the video is that it sure seemed like it was intended for a Stake President & Bishop's Council. So wondering if anyone on this thread had this type of meeting, or is everyone's experience simply watching it at the unit level?
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My questions:
- Is the older finance training video now obsolete?
- Is the assistant clerk for finances supposed to attend bishopric meeting so all may view it together?
Dana Repouille, Plattsmouth, Nebraska
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BrianEdwards wrote:We had our local audit yesterday, and received an email 3 days prior from our auditor, with the request to meet and watch it together before the audit. So a somewhat-similar situation where local leaders were made aware of this requirement last-minute. We squeezed it in (fulfilling the letter of the law), but had other pressing issues so couldn't discuss it (missing the intent, perhaps). Perhaps other Stakes are more pro-active in giving a heads-up.

My actual question regarding the video is that it sure seemed like it was intended for a Stake President & Bishop's Council. So wondering if anyone on this thread had this type of meeting, or is everyone's experience simply watching it at the unit level?
I thought it was on point for bishops, counselors, and clerks. We did discuss and made sure we were following the procedures it talked about. I appreciated the clarity around the discussion of fast offering use, use of government assistance, responsibility of family for support, etc.
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I feel the most important point of both financial training videos is that two people should be opening and verifying the donation envelopes, and two people should be transcribing the donation slips into MLS. I see all too often two brethren doing these tasks at the same time to speed things up. In my ward, I hang around after the block so I can be a third witness. I would rather catch a data entry error at the time of entry, than months later. I don't care how much experience you have, we all make mistakes. Having someone look over your shoulder can be a life saver.
Dana Repouille, Plattsmouth, Nebraska
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BrianEdwards wrote:My actual question regarding the video is that it sure seemed like it was intended for a Stake President & Bishop's Council. So wondering if anyone on this thread had this type of meeting, or is everyone's experience simply watching it at the unit level?
I saw it done at a bishopric training meeting held by the stake. Since it is to be viewed every six months, and since there are a limited number of training meetings (1 to 4) during the year, I expect that the wards and branches will be on their own for future viewings.
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Does anyone know if this video is available to watch in Spanish? I'm a clerk in a Spanish-speaking branch. The video is not available from the Finance, Help, Financial Training Videos as it it on the English site. I also searched the name of the video in Spanish but didn't find anything. Thank you.
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drepouille wrote:But will the bishopric be required to watch this same video "together" during every audit period?
We were just audited and our auditor said yes, the bishopric must watch it together every audit period.
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Is this available in Spanish?
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#20
Sacred funds video
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larryharrod wrote:Sacred funds video
If you are trying to use the forum like a search engine, it doesn't work that way.

The video is available in the Help Center at https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/help/support/record-keeping/finance/financial-training-lessons/sacred-funds.
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Thanks for the help all. We were caught off guard with the new audit question pertaining to this video. Does anyone have citation to an official communication or other letter detailing the requirement? It's troubling that we have an audit question about a new policy that is not documented anywhere.
Bro. West
Assistant Stake Clerk - Finance (2 years)
Former Assistant Ward Clerk - Finance (3 years)
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daveywest wrote:Does anyone have citation to an official communication or other letter detailing the requirement?
I am not in a position where I would have received official communication, so I do not know. However, over the years I can think of quite a number of financial requirements that I first learned about at the audit originally incorporating the question.
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daveywest wrote:Thanks for the help all. We were caught off guard with the new audit question pertaining to this video. Does anyone have citation to an official communication or other letter detailing the requirement? It's troubling that we have an audit question about a new policy that is not documented anywhere.
For us, it came through the stake and not directly to our ward.

I asked our auditor today if we had to watch this same video every 6 months and he was not sure. The question is very specific to this video. In the past, the question was just general about receiving some sort of training during the 6 months. Now it uses the name of the video in the question. Whether that question will be around next time or not, seems to be the question we're all wondering.
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SEC96 wrote:Does anyone know if this video is available to watch in Spanish? I'm a clerk in a Spanish-speaking branch. The video is not available from the Finance, Help, Financial Training Videos as it it on the English site. I also searched the name of the video in Spanish but didn't find anything. Thank you.
Just to complete this question, yes the above referenced link does indeed have a Spanish version available.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/hel ... s?lang=spa
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#26
Hi,

Where can I find out in how many languages the video "Sacred Funds, Sacred Responsibilities" exit please?

Best Regards,

Jeanclaude
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I don't know of a quick way to get a list of all languages, but I was able to check if it was available in specific languages by changing the language code at the end:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/hel ... s?lang=eng (English)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/hel ... s?lang=spa (Spanish)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/hel ... s?lang=fra (French)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/hel ... s?lang=swe (Swedish)

It looks like it's available in several languages (probably 30–40, if I had to guess).
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
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#28
I've looked in the handbook but haven't found anything that states the requirement of needing to meet together in person to watch the video. Does anyone know of such a reference in the handbook or somewhere?
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There is nothing in the Handbook that says they must watch it together. But then there are many things that are not in the handbook.

The audit question reads: "Did the bishopric, the ward clerk, and the assistant ward clerk assigned to finances meet together to view the training video “Sacred Funds, Sacred Responsibilities” sometime in the last 12 months?" I guess if a ward wants to rely on the handbook and say they want to watch it separately, as long as they are willing to live with an audit exception every year...

The video itself has breaks where the narrator says to discuss what has been shown. I think it's clear that even if it's not in the Handbook, the Church would like priesthood leaders to watch and discuss the video together. If they can't do that because of travel distances, if they hold presidency meetings virtually for example, they can watch and discuss the video virtually.

There is value in discussing the principles taught in the video.
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KRLehnardt wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 1:45 pm I've looked in the handbook but haven't found anything that states the requirement of needing to meet together in person to watch the video. Does anyone know of such a reference in the handbook or somewhere?
General Handbook, 34.5, addresses viewing the video. It states: "Bishoprics and clerks review the video 'Sacred Funds, Sacred Responsibilities' at least once a year." In the video there are several pauses where the topic just presented can be discussed. This implies having a group together to have that discussion. The question in the audit asks if the bishopric and clerks viewed the video together in the past twelve months. Our stake recommends being physically together when practicable but permits streaming meetings.

There is another discussion on this topic in the thread finance training audit questions.
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chriswoodut wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:02 pm
daveywest wrote:Thanks for the help all. We were caught off guard with the new audit question pertaining to this video. Does anyone have citation to an official communication or other letter detailing the requirement? It's troubling that we have an audit question about a new policy that is not documented anywhere.
For us, it came through the stake and not directly to our ward.

I asked our auditor today if we had to watch this same video every 6 months and he was not sure. The question is very specific to this video. In the past, the question was just general about receiving some sort of training during the 6 months. Now it uses the name of the video in the question. Whether that question will be around next time or not, seems to be the question we're all wondering.
This is not a new question. It has been on the audit form since at least the mid-year 2020 audit. "Did the bishopric, the ward clerk, and the assistant ward clerk assigned to finances meet together to view the training
video “Sacred Funds, Sacred Responsibilities” sometime during the audit period?"

The language was changed in the mid-year 2021 audit to "sometime in the last 12 months?"
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We ended up watching it together over zoom and had the discussions online. Worked out well.