How to do Out-of-Unit Calling?

Hello, I have been called to a YSA High Council. I know, my records should stay in my home ward/stake but, somehow I should be listed as having an Out-of-Unit Calling in a different Stake. For the past several months my records have bounced around between my Home and YSA wards. My calling has now disappeared and I get different stories from everyone I talk to on what should happen.

Currently, my records are in my Home Ward and I do not show as having any callings.

My question: What is the process and who does each step? Home or YSA Stake or Home or YSA Ward?

Does my Home Ward give me a calling in another stake?
Does my YSA Stake give me my calling?
Does my YSA Ward give me my calling?

I would like to be able to tell whoever needs to do which step my records are properly updated and reflect the proper calling etc.

Hope this makes sense. Let me know if you need any other information.

thanks

Android29 wrote:Does my Home Ward give me a calling in another stake?

No

Android29 wrote:Does my YSA Stake give me my calling?

Yes

Android29 wrote:Does my YSA Ward give me my calling?

No but they may need to add you as a out-of-unit member.

Based on the Access Table in LCR it looks like you have to be added as an out-of-unit member by the YSA ward first and then the stake should be able to enter you in your calling. But I've never entered an out-of-unit stake calling so I could be wrong about that. Hopefully someone with experience can post. However, your YSA stake clerk really should already know about this since I would assume they already have a bunch of out-of-unit callings.

I would refer the stake clerk of the YSA stake to the help center article Out-of-Unit Members and Callings. Once entered, he can give you your calling.

Your home ward retains your records, but does nothing special with them.

Thanks for the help, I'll pass this along to the clerks in my YSA.

eblood66 wrote:

Android29 wrote:Does my YSA Ward give me my calling?

No but they may need to add you as a out-of-unit member.

The trick here is that the YSA Ward has to add you as an out-of-unit member first, and then the YSA Stake has to give you your stake calling afterward.

lajackson wrote:

eblood66 wrote:

Android29 wrote:Does my YSA Ward give me my calling?

No but they may need to add you as a out-of-unit member.

The trick here is that the YSA Ward has to add you as an out-of-unit member first, and then the YSA Stake has to give you your stake calling afterward.

Actually for out-of-unit stake callings you don't need them as an out-of-unit member. You just need the mrn and name.

jonesrk wrote:Actually for out-of-unit stake callings you don't need them as an out-of-unit member. You just need the mrn and name.

Ok, I wondered how that worked for stake callings.

Just to make sure we've got the final answer consolidated in one post:

For ward out-of-unit callings (YSA bishop, etc.), the member should be added to the ward as an out-of-unit member and then the position should be added.

For stake out-of-unit callings (YSA stake president, etc.), the member is NOT added as an out-of-unit member. The stake clerk adds the member to the position using the membership record number.

I have a member of my ward who has been in the YSA Stake Presidency in another Stake. His home ward is still with his family in LCR, however since his calling is in another Stake he can no longer see his actual home ward information like his own family's information in LDS Tools. Is there a way around this so he can see his home ward info? Thanks

He should be able to see both his home ward and the stake his calling is in. I haven't seen how that works in Member Tools, but he might have to select which stake he wants to look at.

djnjamort@gmail.com wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:02 pm I have a member of my ward who has been in the YSA Stake Presidency in another Stake. His home ward is still with his family in LCR, however since his calling is in another Stake he can no longer see his actual home ward information like his own family's information in LDS Tools. Is there a way around this so he can see his home ward info? Thanks

From my understanding, an out-of-unit stake calling is slightly different than an out-of-unit ward calling. Since an out-of-unit stake-level calling does not belong to any ward, it's a bit different operationally than a normal out-of-unit calling where you create the out-of-unit record at the ward level. If everything was done correctly it shouldn't make any difference, but this may be something that is affecting what's going on.

First Q: are you certain that his records were retained in his home ward, and that an out-of-unit calling was created in the YSA Stake? Even if that's what you've been told is what happened, it would be good to verify. When done properly, then as @jonesrk states the Tools app (and the web interface) provides the ability to select the stake you wish to view.

Second Q: has the member verified this is also an issue when using the web interface as opposed to Tools?: One thing I had to do when I went through a similar process (I currently have an out-of-unit stake-level calling as well), was to make sure I did a "data refresh" in my Tools app (and not just the normal sync).