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What is the 'Gospel Living' app? Where is it available?

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larry19810
New Member
#1
The new Children and youth Introduction has this notice:
Mobile App: Gospel
Living
The Gospel Living
mobile app (iOS and
Android) is designed to
be inspiring, engaging,
fun, and relevant to
everyday life. It supports
a Christ-centered life
through: • Inspiring content • Reminders • Activity ideas • Communication • Journaling • Personal goals
Search the Apple app
store and Android app
marketplace for Gospel
Living (Church of Jesus
Christ)

I don't see this app in my Play store or anywhere in these forums. Is this the same as Gospel Library?
nmecantwin73
Church Employee
#2
The news release states (https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... initiative):
The Gospel Living mobile app will be available in English, Spanish and Portuguese this fall and can later be downloaded in additional languages.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#3
And since it's for a program that starts in January, and knowing how deadlines slip, I'm thinking it will be closer to "December 21" than "September".
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lajackson
Community Moderators
#4
larry19810 wrote:Is this the same as Gospel Library?
The Gospel Living app is a new app to support the Children and Youth program beginning in 2020 that has not yet been released. It is not the same as Gospel Library.
simonawright
Member
#5
The notification we received said it would be available in November/December.
sbradshaw
Community Moderators
#6
A few pilot stakes have been using the app, but it hasn't been publicly released yet.
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#7
cassandrathom wrote:where did you hear about this?
In the posts before yours in this thread. It seems to be coordinated with the new Children and Youth program that will start in January 2020.
carlsonjf
New Member
#8
Is this not available for beta test through TestFlight? I am a developer and have been a beta tester for all Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints mobile apps at various points but have not seen anything for this new app.
lbsoelberg@gmail.com
New Member
#9
The Gospel Living app. should have been available today after the ward showed the 48 min. video. The info today suggested we should download this app. for our use. Now as I understand your comments, the app. will not be available until late this fall?
scgallafent
Church Employee
#10
lbsoelberg@gmail.com wrote:The Gospel Living app. should have been available today after the ward showed the 48 min. video.
The introductory video made it clear that the new program for youth and children begins on January 1, 2020. Your expectation that the app should have been available yesterday is not correct.
ztakahashi
New Member
#11
The new website launched last Sunday here (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/you ... s?lang=eng) says that during the Face to Face event for children and youth on November 17 with Elder Gong, leaders will share additional details of the initiative, ”highlighting a launch of mobile, web, and print resources.”
jwmarrott
New Member
#12
Can we participate in the beta?
kLeb.DaBell
New Member
#13
More details released today during the face2face. I'm sure you watched it, but when will it be released?
davesudweeks
Senior Member
#14
Elder Gong stated in the face2face that the new App will be available Jan 2020.
lph1963
New Member
#15
Elder Gong showed the a gospel Living App in today’s Face to Face event, it is still not showing up in the App Store for iOS....
Is it available? And if not when??
lajackson
Community Moderators
#16
davesudweeks wrote:Elder Gong stated in the face2face that the new App will be available Jan 2020.
sbradshaw
Community Moderators
#17
Elder Gong (at about 1:13:45 in the broadcast) wrote:Look for the first version of the Gospel Living app to begin rolling out in January 2020.
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
jknacnud
New Member
#18
I was also wondering if I could get on the beta list. Would love to test it out. Especially the in-app communications.
jaque1
New Member
#19
carlsonjf wrote:Is this not available for beta test through TestFlight? I am a developer and have been a beta tester for all Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints mobile apps at various points but have not seen anything for this new app.
I too would be interested in helping beta test the Gospel Living app. Will this be made available to volunteer developers/beta testers before release?
sbradshaw
Community Moderators
#20
There isn't a public beta for the Gospel Living app; only a closed beta for the pilot stakes that has been ongoing for several months. I'm not sure if this will change. However, the "Discover Feed" section of the app is also available on the Church website:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/you ... r?lang=eng
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#21
sbradshaw wrote:closed beta for the pilot stakes
This is what I'd expect given the communication features in the app. The beta would be by stake and not as individuals. If the stake is invited to be a part of the beta, the stake president would have to give his approval.
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tempusnai
New Member
#22
this might not be applicable but bettr now than later
Great job making this app! finally
Now only wonder if it includes 15 mill members
trevorh
New Member
#23
Will the app also be available for the Amazon Kindle Fire, like the Church's other apps are? (We don't allow our kids to have their own phones, but they do have Kindle Fires, and we are thinking of getting them new ones for Christmas.)
sbradshaw
Community Moderators
#24
trevorh wrote:Will the app also be available for the Amazon Kindle Fire, like the Church's other apps are? (We don't allow our kids to have their own phones, but they do have Kindle Fires, and we are thinking of getting them new ones for Christmas.)
I don't know for sure, but only a couple of the Church's apps are available on the Amazon Appstore – so I wouldn't plan on it being there, at least not from the start.
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
trevorh
New Member
#25
I was thinking only the Tools app wasn't available there, but now that I've compared it to what's on Google Play, I do see there are a bunch of newer apps that are missing. I hope they'll keep in mind that there are some parents that don't want their kids to have phones.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#26
trevorh wrote:I hope they'll keep in mind that there are some parents that don't want their kids to have phones.
They said at the Face to Face that the app was not required at all to participate in the Children and Youth program. Obviously, it would be nice. But it is not necessary.
trevorh
New Member
#27
Of course it's not required, but my kids already feel like they're the only ones in the world without a phone, and not having it available on safer devices won't help with that.
EarloftheWest
Member
#28

How do the communications features work in the Gospel Living App

During the Face to Face, it was discussed that members could communicate with others in their classes and quorums via the app?
Does anyone know how that actually works?
Does it just send an email to everyone on the list or is it more of an instant messenger app?
Thanks!
lajackson
Community Moderators
#29

Re: How do the communications features work in the Gospel Living App

EarloftheWest wrote:During the Face to Face, it was discussed that members could communicate with others in their classes and quorums via the app?
Does anyone know how that actually works?
I do not know, and we probably will not find out until the app is released early next year.
trevorh
New Member
#30
It looked like an instant messaging feature to me, which would be terrific. It would get people off of apps like GroupMe which occasionally receive very inappropriate spam.
JaneRogger
New Member
#31
This app might not be available for amazon kindle. I am not sure though.
EarloftheWest
Member
#32
trevorh wrote:Of course it's not required, but my kids already feel like they're the only ones in the world without a phone, and not having it available on safer devices won't help with that.
You might be able to extract the APK file from an Android phone and side load it on to the Kindle fire tablet.

Off topic... I use a program called dinner time plus and have my 11 year olds phone locked down tight. I needed to make the app so it's not battery optimized so the app stays on all the time. I've been very happy with it. I lock down the settings also.

My 16 year old also likes have time settings on some of her apps.

Maybe you could find Android phones for them and lock them down?
danmec
New Member
#33
The news release in July indicated that gospel living app would be available in the "fall," but I can't find it? When will it be released?
johnshaw
Senior Member
#34
It won't be available until mid year, don't count on it as a resource until then.
“A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom.”
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense
jokamura
Member
#35
johnshaw wrote:It won't be available until mid year, don't count on it as a resource until then.
Where did you read/hear this?
"Accept what you can't change, and change what you can't accept, but know the difference between the two."
lajackson
Community Moderators
#36
According to the Face to Face broadcast with Elder Gong, the first version of the app will be available for download in January. I have seen nothing to indicate a different schedule.
johnshaw
Senior Member
#37
jokamura wrote:
johnshaw wrote:It won't be available until mid year, don't count on it as a resource until then.
Where did you read/hear this?
In the first of the year, there will be a 'regionalized beta' meaning that after this initial alpha with the pilot stakes, additional stakes in multiple regions will go through beta. While that happens there will be code updates and fixes, etc, particularly in multiple languages - anything involving multiple languages at CHQ requires considerable time for translation and correlation to approve, etc. And, then there is the big, super, unique General Conference coming up in April that ALWAYS requires ChurchIT resources in the P. Nelson era. If you consider all of these things, the idea that it will be available 'first of the year' is a hard target. Take that and with the last 10-15 years of watching dev at the church, it's not hard to predict it won't be available church-wide when everyone is assuming.

Some of us do extensive testing and QA for the mobile apps and there is a reason they don't publish dates. There is a reason that ChurchIT doesn't publish a list of 'new stuff' they are working on. Very early on they would actually publish these things informally on this message board, it was kinda cool knowing when the new calendar was out, being able to request to join the beta with your stake, etc. but too often changes would happen based on prophetic priorities and those dates would get altered, they started to get altered so often that, we as a community, got a little huffy about it, unfortunately we kinda did this to ourselves in a way, by giving the devs a bunch of grief when they didn't hit targets, etc. Granted, there were times when I drove 150 miles to a building to fix something the church said was going to be available to me only to have it delayed... it could get aggravating, I understand that, but we've settled in at this point.

We get what we get and we don't throw a fit anymore.
“A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom.”
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense
davesudweeks
Senior Member
#38
lajackson wrote:According to the Face to Face broadcast with Elder Gong, the first version of the app will be available for download in January. I have seen nothing to indicate a different schedule.
I could be wrong, but I though he said it would be available "after the first of the year" which wouldn't necessarily mean January. But even if he did, we need to be patient and be ready for it when it is released.
johnshaw
Senior Member
#39
davesudweeks wrote:
lajackson wrote:According to the Face to Face broadcast with Elder Gong, the first version of the app will be available for download in January. I have seen nothing to indicate a different schedule.
I could be wrong, but I thought he said it would be available "after the first of the year" which wouldn't necessarily mean January. But even if he did, we need to be patient and be ready for it when it is released.
I was just looking back over the official communication about Children and Youth docs from the letters.churchofjesuschrist.org library and it was striking how specific the wording was communicated to leaders across the globe, it never said the beginning of 2020, it never said January 1, 2020, it just said available in 2020 - available in 2020. Regardless of what was said/inferred in the get-read-for-the-program presentations, there is no expectation to have it available on Jan 1, 2020

We can't even get the swag on Jan 1, 2020... why would we think an app would be ready on Jan 1, 2020
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― Thomas Paine, Common Sense
trevorh
New Member
#40
EarloftheWest wrote:
trevorh wrote:Of course it's not required, but my kids already feel like they're the only ones in the world without a phone, and not having it available on safer devices won't help with that.
You might be able to extract the APK file from an Android phone and side load it on to the Kindle fire tablet.
Yeah, I've done that with several apps. It works as long as none of the Google services are required.

But we got our teenagers Chromebooks for Christmas, and it appears that most(?) Android apps work on them, so we may have taken care of any potential problems here.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#41
I can only quote what Elder Gong said at the Face to Face broadcast. Whether or not it really happens is another matter entirely.

"in January 2020" could mean anything from the 1st to the 31st.
"begin rolling out" could mean something similar to what johnshaw has suggested.
"look for" could mean we are to get our hopes up and then wait and watch to see what really happens whenever it does.

What happens will be what happens. A few years from now I expect to look back and wonder what the fuss was all about.

I am quite certain that Elder Gong's "really cool quorum" is hoping the rollout is quick, effective, and efficient. But I do not think any of them are actually on the development team writing code. It does seem to appear that Elder Gong is getting to test it. Perhaps we all will get to test it next month.

"the first version" could mean it will be a really interesting test, whenever it takes place.
johnshaw
Senior Member
#42
lajackson wrote:I can only quote what Elder Gong said at the Face to Face broadcast. Whether or not it really happens is another matter entirely.

"in January 2020" could mean anything from the 1st to the 31st.
"begin rolling out" could mean something similar to what johnshaw has suggested.
"look for" could mean we are to get our hopes up and then wait and watch to see what really happens whenever it does.

What happens will be what happens. A few years from now I expect to look back and wonder what the fuss was all about.

I am quite certain that Elder Gong's "really cool quorum" is hoping the rollout is quick, effective, and efficient. But I do not think any of them are actually on the development team writing code. It does seem to appear that Elder Gong is getting to test it. Perhaps we all will get to test it next month.

"the first version" could mean it will be a really interesting test, whenever it takes place.
And I think this is where the confusion is, people are taking this Face-to-Face as official communication and forgetting the Church sent out an official communication to Stake Presidents and Bishops. The wording in the 'Official Communication' doesn't mention January. And my own personal totally not-statistical analysis is that like most things in the church, we don't read the actual directions, we do what the person before us did, or what our assumption is, or what the policy/program was when they served before, etc... I will never understand why we can't just tell everyone what the deal is....

Initial Alpha with test-unit stakes
Initial Beta with stakes across multiple regions of the church (word from the developers)
Final English Release
Final Non-English Releases over time...
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russellhltn
Community Administrator
#43
johnshaw wrote:Initial Alpha with test-unit stakes
Initial Beta with stakes across multiple regions of the church (word from the developers)
Final English Release
Final Non-English Releases over time...
And unless the church takes a "dang the torpedoes" approach to testing, the time table will depend on what's discovered in each round.

Perhaps they find the UI is unsatisfactory and it has to go back for a re-do. Or some basic assumptions about communications have problems in the real world. That's going to take longer than if everything went smoothly. But it would also mean that they listen to what the testers are telling them.
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TuckerHST
New Member
#44
scgallafent wrote:The introductory video made it clear that the new program for youth and children begins on January 1, 2020. Your expectation that the app should have been available yesterday is not correct.
Any update, now that it's 2020?
TuckerHST
New Member
#45
Ok, ok, I've read more posts now. Maybe I'll check in again in the summer.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#46
I would remind the quorum or class that the app is on the way, ask them to keep an eye out for it, and let you know when it appears. I would expect you to know of its release within a day or two of when it happens.
LucasCReis
New Member
#47
There's a huge poster of the Gospel Living app in the current edition of the New Era, does it mean smth? I knw that is not quite simple to talk about dates and stuff, but I knw a couple of stakes are testing the app and it's on its way for us soon
albertoaflores
New Member
#48
Any updates on this? I have not been able to find it as of today in the IOS App Store
ClarkHall
Member
#49
Is the Gospel Living app available? I can’t seem to find it in the Apple store.
merrillmadsen
New Member
#50
Anyone know if the new app's "Circles" messaging feature can be used in Youth Sunday School classes or will it be limited to Young Men/Young Women organizations?

As a Sunday School teacher, I would love to try this. Otherwise I can resort to other things like GroupMe.
guymonmd
New Member
#51
My daughter asked me about the Gospel Living App today, She would like to follow the advise of the her church leaders and download the app.
We are no able to find it on any app store applications. I was promised for the fall of 2019, and the new program started Jan 1, 2020, so I would expect the app would be available. We just can't find it.
jdlessley
Community Moderators
#52
guymonmd wrote:We just can't find it.
It has not been released to the general membership. It is still in beta testing and it is unknown as to when it will become available to the general membership
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lajackson
Community Moderators
#53
I think this is sort of like the Second Coming. We have never been told exactly when it would happen. We have only been told to watch for it. Some of us have been watching for a long time. Others seem to believe it is late and behind schedule.

We have been told that the Children and Youth Program starts in January 2020. Even this is not exactly true, since the program does not start until later in 2020 in other parts of the world. As for the app, it will be released when it is released. Nowhere have I seen a specific release by date. Everything official I have seen and heard refers to a time after the beginning of the recent new year a few days ago.

Your daughter, who wisely wishes to be obedient to her leaders, would be on firm ground to suggest that she will download the app just as soon as her leaders do. She should smile if she tells them that.
michaelpauras
New Member
#54
Is the Gospel Living App only "limited" or directed for Youth or will it be available for all members, not only including AP quorums, but adult Priesthood and RS? Some of those features are pretty nice, when it comes to communication.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#55
michaelpauras wrote:Is the Gospel Living App only "limited" or directed for Youth or will it be available for all members, not only including AP quorums, but adult Priesthood and RS? Some of those features are pretty nice, when it comes to communication.
While it seems to be directed toward the youth, I noticed that Elder Gong was able to use it with his "really cool quorum" of the Twelve. I suspect members of an elders quorum might be able to use it, but I do not think we will know for certain until the app completes beta and launches.
jgregdunn
New Member
#56
Any update on this app? I don't see it available yet in the App Store.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#57
jgregdunn wrote:Any update on this app? I don't see it available yet in the App Store.
Take a deep breath. Read back through the previous posts in this topic. You have not missed it.
jdlessley
Community Moderators
#58
EJBA wrote:How can I access the application? I want to try it plis
Please read the sixth post before yours.
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numbchops
New Member
#59
Even the beta version of the app is not available any more, so I imagine they are adding finishing touches to the programming or running final tests. Although it would be nice to know a release date.
LucasCReis
New Member
#60
The app is now available! I'm already using it!
lajackson
Community Moderators
#61
Reislucas0770 wrote:The app is now available! I'm already using it!
At the Apple store? It is not yet in the Android Play Store. Or were you participating in a stake that was involved with the beta test?
emoreira
New Member
#62
Edited 1 time, last by russellhltn on . Reason: Removed link
Here
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russellhltn
Community Administrator
#63
emoreira wrote:Here
[link removed]
Interesting. Yes, it exists in the Google Play store, but it doesn't come up in a search. Apparently, it's intended to be "private" at this time. That's why I removed the link. We have a policy against sharing information intended to be private.

I'm not sure as it would work even if you could install it unless your stake was on the beta.
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sbradshaw
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#64
Gospel Living started rolling out publicly this week (Wednesday for Android, today for iOS), but it's a staged roll-out by region (currently the UK, France, and Brazil).
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pyjhc
New Member
#65
When is it coming out?!
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#66
pyjhc wrote:When is it coming out?!
No date has been given. No doubt it depends on what they find out from the beta testing stakes.
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lajackson
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#67
russellhltn wrote:
pyjhc wrote:When is it coming out?!
No date has been given. No doubt it depends on what they find out from the beta testing stakes.
Actually, it depends on where you live. Go back three posts and read what sbradshaw said.
Biggles
Senior Member
#68
It’s definitely available in the UK. I have just downloaded it from the Apple store.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#69
Biggles wrote:It’s definitely available in the UK. I have just downloaded it from the Apple store.
So,, since Elder Gong is able to use it with his "really cool quorum", do you think you will be able to use it with your elders quorum? Inquiring minds.

And if the Relief Society is able to use the app with their class, I think this may be the messaging tool we have long sought for communication within the ward or branch.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#70
lajackson wrote:Go back three posts and read what sbradshaw said.
Ah, I missed that while dealing with the moderated post. When I'm done, the thread is no longer "new".
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scgallafent
Church Employee
#71
lajackson wrote:So,, since Elder Gong is able to use it with his "really cool quorum", do you think you will be able to use it with your elders quorum? Inquiring minds.

And if the Relief Society is able to use the app with their class, I think this may be the messaging tool we have long sought for communication within the ward or branch.
As far as I know, that is part of the design.
kimirwin
New Member
#72
Now that it is January - when will the app be live??
jdlessley
Community Moderators
#73
kimirwin wrote:Now that it is January - when will the app be live??
Please read the thread posts before yours. Start here if you do not want to read the entire thread.
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lgstree
New Member
#74
Here is a Play Store link for the Gospel Living app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... rg.lds.liv
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#75
lgstree wrote:Here is a Play Store link for the Gospel Living app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... rg.lds.liv
On my PC I get "This app is incompatible with all of your devices.".

On my device, I get "This item isn't available in your country".
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davesudweeks
Senior Member
#76
lgstree wrote:Here is a Play Store link for the Gospel Living app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... rg.lds.liv
Thank you for posting the link. I can't access it yet either, but my wife is conducting training to the wards in our stake next week and wanted to give them a peek about what is coming. She will tell them it's not available here yet, but to keep watching...
pjeffrey
New Member
#77
Hi, We are very excited to work with the new Gospel Living mobile app for youth. Is there an update on the release date? Would it be possible to be added to a beta program before the release? Thanks, Nashua NH Stake
pjeffrey
New Member
#78
Could someone please post a link to the Apple store for this application? I can see that the android one was posted this past week however when I search the Apple store it does not come up directly. Thanks so much for your help.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#79
The app is not yet available in the United States (unless you are in a beta stake). The three countries with the released app are listed earlier in this topic.
Biggles
Senior Member
#80
pjeffrey wrote:Could someone please post a link to the Apple store for this application? I can see that the android one was posted this past week however when I search the Apple store it does not come up directly. Thanks so much for your help.
In this thread please read post #65, for some details on where it is available!
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#81
pjeffrey wrote:I can see that the android one was posted this past week
And that link is currently unusable for users countries where it hasn't been released yet (such as the US). The same could be true of any link to the Apple store.
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michaelrobertthompson
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#82

When will the gospel living app be available?

When will the gospel living app be available?
lajackson
Community Moderators
#83

Re: When will the gospel living app be available?

michaelrobertthompson wrote:When will the gospel living app be available?
It depends on where you live.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#84
Another member of Elder Gong's "really cool quorum" gave this answer yesterday:

Mosiah 8:17.
pjeffrey
New Member
#85
Would it be possible to obtain the users manual for the app so we can begin training the bishoprics, advisers, and quorum presidencies? At this time many units are expending substantial effort in standing up an interim substitute. If they had a vision of the proposed app they may just choose to wait and focus on things they can do without goal setting and enhanced communication. Thanks!
lajackson
Community Moderators
#86
I have never seen a users manual for any app the Church has produced, so I do not expect to see one for this app. I do not know why anyone would expend "substantial effort" to stand up an interim substitute. There are already plenty of materials available for the program to function without using the app at all, including goal setting.

There has not been an app for any previous activity programs, and things have managed to work. When the app arrives, it may certainly be a help, but none of our deacons will have phones and be able to use it anyway, so we are moving ahead on that basis for all of the youth at the moment.

It will come when it comes, and be a cherry on top of the hot chocolate and whipped cream. Even the youth are able to relate to that metaphor.
CrocodileLyle
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#87
Post date: 13 Jan 20

I am an expat in the UK and all my UK friends were able to download the Gospel Living App last night from their App Store (Apple) but it does not show up in mine yet. The only difference I notice between our iPhones is that their iTunes account Region is the UK while mine is still the US.

Can anyone please tell us why we cannot see it in our App Store when our region is the US while those whose region is the UK can see it?
russellhltn
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#88
CrocodileLyle wrote:Can anyone please tell us why we cannot see it in our App Store when our region is the US while those whose region is the UK can see it?
It's being rolled out in phases. It's not available in the US - yet.
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CrocodileLyle
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#89
Thanks. When will it be available in the US App Store?
russellhltn
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#90
CrocodileLyle wrote:Thanks. When will it be available in the US App Store?
We've not been given a date. I'd imagine it depends on how smoothly it goes to determine if it needs any adjustments before continuing the roll-out.
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shouldice
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#91
scgallafent wrote:
lbsoelberg@gmail.com wrote:The Gospel Living app. should have been available today after the ward showed the 48 min. video.
The introductory video made it clear that the new program for youth and children begins on January 1, 2020. Your expectation that the app should have been available yesterday is not correct.
Now?
scgallafent
Church Employee
#92
shouldice wrote:
scgallafent wrote:
lbsoelberg@gmail.com wrote:The Gospel Living app. should have been available today after the ward showed the 48 min. video.
The introductory video made it clear that the new program for youth and children begins on January 1, 2020. Your expectation that the app should have been available yesterday is not correct.
Now?
Not for you. If you read the last few messages in the thread, you will see that the app is not yet available in the United States.
Prettywinner1215
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#93
It is now January 6 2020 when will the exact release date of the app?
jdlessley
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#94
Prettywinner1215 wrote:It is now January 6 2020 when will the exact release date of the app?
Please take note of the 5 posts before yours.
JD Lessley
Have you tried finding your answer on the ChurchofJesusChrist.org Help Center or Tech Wiki?
pjeffrey
New Member
#95
How about if everyone asking about when the app will be released in the US bakes brownies and sends them to the office building?
scgallafent
Church Employee
#96
pjeffrey wrote:How about if everyone asking about when the app will be released in the US bakes brownies and sends them to the office building?
Mmmmm. I like German chocolate brownies. :)
lajackson
Community Moderators
#97
pjeffrey wrote:How about if everyone asking about when the app will be released in the US bakes brownies and sends them to the office building?
I believe security would have to intercept them and taste them to make sure they were safe to consume. I expect that the developers would never see them. But it is a wonderful idea.
dugganpamelakay1
New Member
#98
How do you get into the gospel living app. I can’t find it
lajackson
Community Moderators
#99
The app is still rolling out. If you cannot find it, it is probably because the app is not yet available in your part of the world.
ryanlewis
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#100
scgallafent wrote:
lbsoelberg@gmail.com wrote:The Gospel Living app. should have been available today after the ward showed the 48 min. video.
The introductory video made it clear that the new program for youth and children begins on January 1, 2020. Your expectation that the app should have been available yesterday is not correct.
It is now well after January 1st and the promotion of the app continues. I just read an article in the New Era about it. What updates are there for this app?
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#101
ryanlewis wrote: It is now well after January 1st and the promotion of the app continues. I just read an article in the New Era about it. What updates are there for this app?
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... t?lang=eng

:)
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benmoronilee
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#102
russellhltn wrote:
ryanlewis wrote: It is now well after January 1st and the promotion of the app continues. I just read an article in the New Era about it. What updates are there for this app?
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... t?lang=eng

:)
LOL! Great link BTW. I will #StriveToBe just as the title suggests.

On a more serious note, would love to have an update on the availability of the app. I look forward to the assistance it should provide.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#103
The church rarely gives deadlines, since they frequently miss them do to changing priorities and limited development staff. The church has released the app to some countries such as the UK. No doubt, this is to give them time to test the impact on the back end server and get things working right before they open the floodgates to the US members. The church frequently does a phased release of new things, but when dealing with app stores, their control is by country, not by stake or area.

It will appear. Some day.
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victorloewen
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#104
Has the app been released in canada yet?
lajackson
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#105
So far, the app appears to be available in the UK, France, and Brazil. No one elsewhere has said yet that it is available.
russellhltn
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#106
lajackson wrote:So far, the app appears to be available in the UK, France, and Brazil.
Note that the church hasn't said where it's available, that's what we've learned from the users.
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clarkwilcox
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#107
Running Android 9 on a Galaxy S8. App store says the app is not compatible with my phone. Any news on when it'll be updated?
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#108
clarkwilcox wrote:Running Android 9 on a Galaxy S8. App store says the app is not compatible with my phone. Any news on when it'll be updated?
That seems to happen if you're in a country where it hasn't been released yet. According to the Play Store, the app runs on Android 5 or higher.

There's been absolutely no word on when it will be released to more countries.
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slvaneps
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#109
Looking for the gospel living app and it says it is not available in my country . I just rewatched the face to face and it said it would be out January 2020
lajackson
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#110
slvaneps wrote:I just rewatched the face to face and it said it would be out January 2020
In the Face to Face broadcast, Elder Gong said:
Look for the first version of the Gospel Living App to begin rolling out in January 2020.
So I have been anxiously looking, as have many others. It appears from comments earlier in this topic that the app did begin rolling out this month and is available so far in three countries.

But not mine. And apparently not yours. I am sure it will arrive soon.
sbradshaw
Community Moderators
#111
Gospel Living for iOS and Android has now rolled out to Japan, Canada, and Mexico (in addition to Brazil, France, and the UK).
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BrianEdwards
Senior Member
#112
Do we have any idea if these roll-outs are accompanied by leader email alerts? In other words, anyone know how the members in these countries found out?

Although realistically, with how info spreads like wildfire across social media, I often hear about changes on FB or something, even before getting a leader email from Church HQ sent my way. So when USA gets the app, I'm sure I'll hear about it one way or the other :)
johnshaw
Senior Member
#113
BrianEdwards wrote:Do we have any idea if these roll-outs are accompanied by leader email alerts? In other words, anyone know how the members in these countries found out?

Although realistically, with how info spreads like wildfire across social media, I often hear about changes on FB or something, even before getting a leader email from Church HQ sent my way. So when USA gets the app, I'm sure I'll hear about it one way or the other :)
It's not the way of the church to communicate with members on things like this, they communicate with leaders who most often don't read the things that are sent. These leaders are so busy they often aren't as informed as members are about how things should be working, it makes for very difficult struggles to be telling a Bishop or Stake President they are wrong about something, a thing we're not culturally disposed to even do in any way. So, we perpetuate mis or patial information about almost everything we do, like for instance that all activities are to be based on the goals of children and youth, when the printed instructions really say, that 'on occasion' activities 'may' be based on a goal. Which then perpetuates something that is also in the written instructures, all goals don't need to be shared with leaders and parents, and leaders and parents aren't to track goals. It gets all messed up right from the start and entire stakes will go years and years doing it wrong.

But that's what you get when you value, 1) Agency, and 2) Priesthood Keys.
“A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom.”
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense
sheldonchoo
New Member
#114
The app went live in Canada yesterday. I don't see any notices about it on the main church webage, but I got an email about it yesterday morning and have downloaded it.
teshaswensen
New Member
#115
The announcements said it was suppose to be live on January 1 but nothing since. I saw it in the google store yesterday and now it is gone. Anyone know what is going on? It would be nice to have an update on it. My daughter is excited to use it.
lajackson
Community Moderators
#116
teshaswensen wrote:Anyone know what is going on? It would be nice to have an update on it. My daughter is excited to use it.
We are all excited to use the new app.

So far we know it was released first in Brazil, France, and the UK. It has very recently been rolled out in Canada, Japan, and Mexico.

The future schedule or the future order of countries in which the app will be released has not yet (and probably will not be) announced. It all makes for a very grand and historic adventure.
jenkster1971
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#117
Since January release is no longer possible, any word on when it will be released?
russellhltn
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#118
I've not heard of any word. We've found out after the fact. It will be a surprise.
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lajackson
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#119
russellhltn wrote:I've not heard of any word. We've found out after the fact. It will be a surprise.
Sometime after January. Just a hunch.
brianfinn27@gmail.com
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#120
Has anyone heard of when the app would be available we are now in Feb 2020 and no app?
lajackson
Community Moderators
#121
brianfinn27@gmail.com wrote:Has anyone heard of when the app would be available we are now in Feb 2020 and no app?
It is available now in six countries. I have not heard when it will become available in the United States, or in other countries around the world.

Reading back through this topic should give you an idea about how these things work.
pjeffrey
New Member
#122
Dear Creators of the highly sought after app,
Can we please have it released in the US?
Best regards,
Millions of anxious youth and their advisers ;)
BEWilson
New Member
#123
pjeffrey wrote:Dear Creators of the highly sought after app,
Can we please have it released in the US?
Best regards,
Millions of anxious youth and their advisers ;)

If nothing sooner, hopefully we will hear more after the Face To Face on Feb 23
theorbitz
New Member
#124
BEWilson wrote:
pjeffrey wrote:Dear Creators of the highly sought after app,
Can we please have it released in the US?
Best regards,
Millions of anxious youth and their advisers ;)

If nothing sooner, hopefully we will hear more after the Face To Face on Feb 23
It is here!! Where can i post feedback on the circle section...terrible.
sbradshaw
Community Moderators
#125
Gospel Living is now available in the United States and worldwide (iOS and Android).
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ScottTDavis
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#126
I don’t see it in the apple App Store. Can you post a link to it?
sbradshaw
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#127
iOS (App Store): https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gospel-li ... 1245330433
Android (Google Play): https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... v&hl=en_US

Because the app doesn't have wide adoption yet, it hasn't risen to the top of search results, but another way to find it is to go to the page for another Church app (like Gospel Library), and click the link to see all apps by the Church.
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ScottTDavis
New Member
#128
Thanks!
jokamura
Member
#129
Hopefully the ability to create and add people to circles gets added...soon.

Otherwise a pretty cool app!
"Accept what you can't change, and change what you can't accept, but know the difference between the two."
sbradshaw
Community Moderators
#130
jokamura wrote:Hopefully the ability to create and add people to circles gets added...soon.
Be sure to send this in feedback through the app.
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jokamura
Member
#131
sbradshaw wrote:
jokamura wrote:Hopefully the ability to create and add people to circles gets added...soon.
Be sure to send this in feedback through the app.
Thank you for the reminder! I've just submitted my feedback.
"Accept what you can't change, and change what you can't accept, but know the difference between the two."
drepouille
Senior Member
#132
So I installed the Android app on my phone yesterday. Then I sent a message to my ward and stake leaders about the app availability. Crickets. Maybe they will care about it some day, but for now, I have not seen any evidence that my ward or stake leaders know or care about this new app.

I notice there are circles for the bishopric and the ward council, but not for the EQ or RS. No worries. I know this app is focused on the youth.
Dana Repouille, Plattsmouth, Nebraska
youthofthechurch
New Member
#133
When is gospel living ACTUALLY coming out?
davesudweeks
Senior Member
#134
drepouille wrote:So I installed the Android app on my phone yesterday. Then I sent a message to my ward and stake leaders about the app availability. Crickets. Maybe they will care about it some day, but for now, I have not seen any evidence that my ward or stake leaders know or care about this new app.

I notice there are circles for the bishopric and the ward council, but not for the EQ or RS. No worries. I know this app is focused on the youth.
I am an admin for our ward facebook page - I posted information about it there and did see responses from some. I am no longer clerk so only see a circle for my family. Since my wife and I are empty-nesters, the current circles doesn't make a lot of sense if we can't add our grown children. However, we can use Marco Polo, email, and text for that.
cjallen1234
New Member
#135
How do we get the 48min video?
warrior12345
New Member
#136
It just came out this morning :) :) :). I do have a question though. The circles feature will be very useful once people properly sign up to it. But it appears the list of who is in each circle is locked by calling and organisation. Is there or will there be a way to adjust these lists? I ask because there are no doubt people, like myself, who have callings that spread over multiple wards or would just like to be included in different circles and it would be a useful thing to have
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#137
youthofthechurch wrote:When is gospel living ACTUALLY coming out?
Did you check the app store? It came out late yesterday.
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lindacox60
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#138

android - 1.1.3 circles never showing

installed the app and clicked on circles. "may take a few min. . . . ." have been waiting for about 24 hours and nothing happens.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#139

Re: android - 1.1.3 circles never showing

lindacox60 wrote:installed the app and clicked on circles. "may take a few min. . . . ." have been waiting for about 24 hours and nothing happens.
You should have been prompted to log in with your Church Account.

I'm not sure, but it seemed like it pulled some default login information from another app. Are you running an older version of Tools or Gospel Library?
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drepouille
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#140
When I installed the app, I don't think it prompted me for my username and password. I think I had to look around the app to discover where to enter that information. But that was a couple days ago, and I have slept since then.
Dana Repouille, Plattsmouth, Nebraska
davesudweeks
Senior Member
#141
FWIW: When I downloaded it, it did not prompt me to log in with my church account. When I tapped on circles, I think there was a notice that I would need to log in with my church account to use that feature. I went to my profile and added my church account information. It did take a few minutes after that for circles to work but since I'm not involved with children or youth and my children are all in their own households, the circle function is not much use to us. I suppose it might take a bit longer if someone had lots of people in different circles? I'm using the Android version.
grahamf72
New Member
#142
Looks like a good start.
I’ve sent feedback requesting circles for the adult organisations - adult Sunday school, relief society and elders quorum. With those groups added I think it would have great functionality for all members.

Also requested the ability to create custom circles, for example within extended family. I think my kids would benefit from having circles with their cousins.

I think stake circles would also be a beneficial addition. Particularly for those in small wards and branches where youth activities are often combined with other nearby units to get adequate numbers. If this was available when I was in youth, in the small branch I grew up in, my circles would have consisted of me.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#143
davesudweeks wrote:FWIW: When I downloaded it, it did not prompt me to log in with my church account. When I tapped on circles, I think there was a notice that I would need to log in with my church account to use that feature.
That's what I remember. It told me circles was only for members and that I had to sign in to use it.
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russellhltn
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#144
grahamf72 wrote:Also requested the ability to create custom circles, for example within extended family. I think my kids would benefit from having circles with their cousins.
Due to abuse/liability concerns, I highly doubt if any personal circles will be allowed that can't be verified by the membership records.
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lajackson
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#145
russellhltn wrote:Due to abuse/liability concerns, I highly doubt if any personal circles will be allowed that can't be verified by the membership records.
So the non-member friends who are attending youth activities regularly are out? Get baptized or ... ?
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#146
lajackson wrote:So the non-member friends who are attending youth activities regularly are out? Get baptized or ... ?
If my guess is correct, yes.

As it is now, they're not on the rolls or in the directory. And they don't have access to Member Tools.

It's possibly they might figure a way to expand it, but all circles will have to be monitored by someone "in charge", either a leader in the case of a ward, or by the HoH (and maybe spouse) in the case of family. Otherwise, they're creating a possible avenue for harassment.

Lots of stuff to consider.
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russellhltn
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#147
russellhltn wrote:
lajackson wrote:So the non-member friends who are attending youth activities regularly are out? Get baptized or ... ?
If my guess is correct, yes.
And it appears my guess is wrong.

See You Asked, We Listened. Here's What's Coming in Gospel Living.

It will be interesting to see how it's implemented. Leaders will have to be able to identify who has been added to the circle. If I was to try and implement it, the non-member would have to create a Church Account and then give the name to a leader of the circle. But there still needs to be some way to make sure the person being added is who they think they're adding. I'd leery about any ability to add someone after receiving an email request.
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mattjo
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#148
Does anyone know if circles are available online anywhere? Some of the Primary kids in our ward don’t have phones yet and some have older phones/iPads that aren’t compatible. Some leaders want to start using it, but don’t want those kids to feel left out. If they could get to it through a website, that may work for us until they get their own device. Thanks!
pjeffrey
New Member
#149
First of all a huge thank you for all the developers and administrators that were able to work through the realization of this great tool. I have already spoken to some bishops youth leaders/advisers and youth and they see this is a great tool to help them be unified in the gospel work they do. We look forward to future improvements in circles and other enhancements. Thanks again!
Bradfordbo
New Member
#150
mattjo wrote:Does anyone know if circles are available online anywhere? Some of the Primary kids in our ward don’t have phones yet and some have older phones/iPads that aren’t compatible. Some leaders want to start using it, but don’t want those kids to feel left out. If they could get to it through a website, that may work for us until they get their own device. Thanks!
Yes! A web portal to access the app would be so useful. We have youth who don't have access to a mobile device. It makes the usefulness of circles very limited when, right off the bat, we know a certain number of the youth won't have access. I hope this is in the works.
trevorsprice
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#151
I really wish they'd coded this app to be available on prior versions of iOS. I have so many deacons that don't yet have their own phones, but some have iPods and could use this app if it worked on earlier versions.
Jester_ag
New Member
#152
Is There a PC version? What do those that don't have a device do regarding access to the circles?
sunsblogger
New Member
#153
Having the ability to create our own circles might be nice. I would love to have our kids be in a circle with their cousins to communicate just to encourage them to use the app more. But the way it is now is looking great! I love the updates that have come already.
threed
New Member
#154
Bradfordbo wrote:
mattjo wrote:Does anyone know if circles are available online anywhere? Some of the Primary kids in our ward don’t have phones yet and some have older phones/iPads that aren’t compatible. Some leaders want to start using it, but don’t want those kids to feel left out. If they could get to it through a website, that may work for us until they get their own device. Thanks!
Yes! A web portal to access the app would be so useful. We have youth who don't have access to a mobile device. It makes the usefulness of circles very limited when, right off the bat, we know a certain number of the youth won't have access. I hope this is in the works.
Web access would make this service so much more useful!
rmrichesjr
Community Moderators
#155
threed wrote:Web access would make this service so much more useful!
In case you haven't seen the suggestions earlier in this very long thread, please use the 'Feedback' mechanism (in the app if you can or) on the Church website and raise the suggestion with your bishop and/or stake president. This is a user-to-user discussion forum, not an official request channel. The developers get their task lists from official channels, which are influenced by the feedback mechanisms and requests from the ecclisiastical chain of command.
jeremyw013
Member
#156
The Gospel Living app is now available, and it has been since February.
Jeremy 🎶
russellhltn
Community Administrator
#157
jeremynwest wrote:The Gospel Living app is now available, and it has been since February.
I think that's evident to those who get past the early posts and reads the ones later on.
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jeremyw013
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#158
Whoops. Didn’t see those, but there is a website for it: churchofjesuschrist.org/childrenandyouth/youth/discover
Jeremy 🎶
rmrichesjr
Community Moderators
#159
jeremynwest wrote:Whoops. Didn’t see those, but there is a website for it: churchofjesuschrist.org/childrenandyouth/youth/discover
That gives me a 'Not Found' error. Do you mean this? https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/you ... h/discover
jeremyw013
Member
#160
Yes, I did. Sorry.
Jeremy 🎶
jeremyw013
Member
#161
But you could also just search “Discover” in the Search function on the Church website.
Jeremy 🎶
eterno29
New Member
#162
Is there a forum to make suggestions regarding the gospel living app?
jdlessley
Community Moderators
#163
eterno29 wrote:Is there a forum to make suggestions regarding the gospel living app?
We can only discuss it in this forum. The Tech Forum is primarily user-to-user help and support. It is unlikely anything posted in the forums will be seen by those responsible for making decisions or planning for the app. The official method to provide feedback is thru the in-app feedback. This is found by tapping the Profile menu item in the menu bar at the bottom of the screen, scrolling down to the Feedback section, and tapping the Send Feedback link.
JD Lessley
Have you tried finding your answer on the ChurchofJesusChrist.org Help Center or Tech Wiki?
shawncolloton
New Member
#164
Request: Chrome extension or Windows app for the Gospel Living App. Having it on your phone is nice, but also being able to chat in real-time using a PC is better for me.

If this is not the correct forum, please direct me to where I can submit requests.

Thank you in advance!
davesudweeks
Senior Member
#165
shawncolloton wrote:Request: Chrome extension or Windows app for the Gospel Living App. Having it on your phone is nice, but also being able to chat in real-time using a PC is better for me.

If this is not the correct forum, please direct me to where I can submit requests.

Thank you in advance!
The way to formally submit feature requests is in the post before yours. You send feedback from within the app itself.