Question about an LDS.org Music Transposing tool I can't find anymore.

I used to be able to access the above tool on LDS.org, for transposing (and changing the tempo) on Hymns in the Hymnal and Songs in the Children's Songbook.

I can't find it anymore.
There are still instructions on a Help section on LDS,org (www.lds.org/music/help?lang=eng&_r=1) that show a shot of what I used to see. The topic section is Playing Music—Play and Stop Controls, which is near the end of the document. See Attachment.
The tool is right after the explanation that says :
Music Player
This interactive music player allows you to view, listen to, transpose, and print the Church hymns and children’s songs. Once you have selected a song and it is displayed, you can choose to listen to one or more of the singing parts, speed up or slow down the tempo, or change to a higher or lower key. This feature will also allow you to print the music in another key. On the bottom of the right panel, you will find a list of the languages for which a particular piece is available and where the piece is located in its corresponding hymnbook. I hope it is still accessible.
I really need to find this tool.
Can you help me find it ?
Thank You in Advance.
Marilyn

The player requires Flash in your browser. You can check for Flash here:
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html

TimRiker wrote:The player requires Flash in your browser. You can check for Flash here:
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html

In many browsers, flash is part of the browser and subject to security settings. I can only get it to work sometimes in Chrome. And I don't seem to be able to change the settings or add the website to "allowed sites".

However, even then, it seems to be playing a recording. In order to adjust tempo and transpose, I'd think it would have to be a MIDI player. I'm not having any luck finding anything like that on the site.

You can find the Interactive player at https://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns?lang=eng , click on a hymn title and if the flash player is enabled and allowed to run you will see the player

kd7mha wrote:You can find the Interactive player at https://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns?lang=eng , click on a hymn title and if the flash player is enabled and allowed to run you will see the player

But the OP is asking about a player that has both a transposing and tempo function. I didn't either function there.

russellhltn wrote:

kd7mha wrote:You can find the Interactive player at https://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns?lang=eng , click on a hymn title and if the flash player is enabled and allowed to run you will see the player

But the OP is asking about a player that has both a transposing and tempo function. I didn't either function there.

When you click on a hymn title, it will open that hymn (using Flash player) with a header bar with key change and tempo change options. I used Firefox to open it, since Chrome, Edge, and iOS do not allow Flash player to run.

nmecantwin73 wrote:When you click on a hymn title, it will open that hymn (using Flash player) with a header bar with key change and tempo change options. I used Firefox to open it, since Chrome, Edge, and iOS do not allow Flash player to run.

Excellent!

Chrome is supposed to ask if Flash should be allowed to run, but it doesn't. And I haven't found a way to add a domain to sites that are allowed to run Flash.

It is no longer possible to use the Hymns Player as before? The last time I used it to separate the voices was in November 2019 and now it is only possible to play the hymn. I updated FLASH, I tried to open it in FIREFOX and Chrome without success. Any other suggestion?

LauraPenaRiveron wrote:It is no longer possible to use the Hymns Player as before? The last time I used it to separate the voices was in November 2019 and now it is only possible to play the hymn. I updated FLASH, I tried to open it in FIREFOX and Chrome without success. Any other suggestion?

I just tried it and there are two players at the Music Player page. The default is just the music. Scroll down the page to find the Switch Player button and click it to get the interactive Flash version. As mentioned earlier in this thread the Flash version either requires a browser with built in Flash. Or if you use a browser that does not have Flash built in you must have Flash installed on your computer.

Great! Thanks a lot!!

I just tried with Chrome. After clicking to "switch player," the page reloads and I get the little flash logo saying to click to get flash. I click on that and then Chrome asks me if I would like to enable the flash player. I agree then the player comes right up.

I tried today too and can't access that fun transposer tool anymore. I looked it up and discovered Flash is no longer supported by Chrome. Here's the link to Google's announcement: https://www.blog.google/products/chrome ... sh-chrome/

I wonder if there are any plans to rebuild this player outside of flash? It's an invaluable tool.

jkaroly wrote:I wonder if there are any plans to rebuild this player outside of flash? It's an invaluable tool.

Yes, work is still in progress – see this thread and the replies on this Facebook post.

Since flash is no longer supported by anything and no longer available as of the end of 2020, is this feature completely unaccessible? Are there any plans to make it accessible without flash? I want to practice songs by parts.

olivia.ciarlante wrote:Since flash is no longer supported by anything and no longer available as of the end of 2020, is this feature completely unaccessible?

That is correct for using Flash Player.

olivia.ciarlante wrote:Are there any plans to make it accessible without flash?

See the post just before your post.

Flash player is discontinued! How are we supposed access the music tools now?

So sad, no longer supported. Adobe flash player no longer supported. any other simple options?

I can't find the "switch player" button, I have looked using both chrome and firefox, did they remove it?

Ghosts371 wrote:I can't find the "switch player" button, I have looked using both chrome and firefox, did they remove it?

If you will read a few posts earlier in the thread, you will see links to other topics that indicate a new transposing tool is in development. The church rarely, if ever, provides timelines and no one on this user-to-user mutual help forum will likely know any more than you do about when such a tool may be available.

I could find it for hymns... but not for the primary children's hymns.... HELP!!! I want to put together a group of sons for the kids to sing, but need it all in the same key!

rachet2002 wrote: I could find it for hymns... but not for the primary children's hymns....

The link in this post will take you to the Hymns. In the yellow bread crumb bar at the top you will see that you are at Home / Collections / Hymns. Click on Collections. Scroll down underneath hymns for the Children's Songbook.

Ghosts371 wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 10:49 pm I can't find the "switch player" button, I have looked using both chrome and firefox, did they remove it?

Today I was able to transpose the song! "Switch player is at the bottom of the song. I'm so happy!
So go to the hymn you want and then scroll to the bottom and automatically it will open the setting so you can easily change to any key you want.

You can now add an extension to your browser: "Flash 2022". this is an emulator that will allow the music transposing tool. I have tried it and it works!

There are extensions for Edge, Chrome, and Firefox. Once the extension is installed, refresh the music library page in the hymns, choose your hymn, open it and then choose 'switch player' at the bottom of the music sheet player. Then you can change the keys to the hymns.
Unfortunately, this does not work for the children's hymns, only the hymns in the Standard Hymn Book.

bethsgarden wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:03 am You can now add an extension to your browser: "Flash 2022". this is an emulator that will allow the music transposing tool. I have tried it and it works!

There are extensions for Edge, Chrome, and Firefox. Once the extension is installed, refresh the music library page in the hymns, choose your hymn, open it and then choose 'switch player' at the bottom of the music sheet player. Then you can change the keys to the hymns.
Unfortunately, this does not work for the children's hymns, only the hymns in the Standard Hymn Book.

The new interactive player doesn't require Flash – you should be able to use it without an extension.

Is the original flash-based one even on line anymore?

russellhltn wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:27 pm Is the original flash-based one even on line anymore?

It's not, except possibly via Archive.org.