Damaged hymn books

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New Member
#1
We have a bunch of hymnals that are damaged. Anyone know if these get replaced or should we just buy new ones and dispose of these damaged ones? Should the wards in that building buy them through the agent bishop or does the stake have that responsibility?
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#2
When ours become too worn for usefulness, we usually put them on a table in the foyer with a "Free" sign and let families take them home for personal use. The agent bishop has his clerk (me) order more using budget funds and I invoice the other two wards in our building for 1/3 of the cost each (we do the same for sacrament cups and toner for the library copier) that goes back into our budget. I have never heard of the stake having that responsibility, but I have not served in a stake calling where I would be privy to that discussion.

The FM group provides hymnals for new buildings, as I understand, but I believe ongoing replacement for wear-out is the responsibility of the wards using them. The church used to offer a hymnal repair kit, but I think they discontinued that some years ago.
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#3
I wouldn't spend too much money. I'm helping with a project that involves two members of the General Music Committee and they confirmed a large commitment of their resources are being spent on finalizing the new hymn book and children's hymn book. They won't give a timeframe, so I don't know how soon they will be finished and mass produced, but they will eventually reach us.
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#5
Mikerowaved wrote:I wouldn't spend too much money. I'm helping with a project that involves two members of the General Music Committee and they confirmed a large commitment of their resources are being spent on finalizing the new hymn book and children's hymn book. They won't give a timeframe, so I don't know how soon they will be finished and mass produced, but they will eventually reach us.
I agree with this and have advised my bishop of the same. No use in purchasing more than we really need since once the new hymnal comes out the old ones will be given away/discarded. However, since we don't know when it will occur, we do need to keep up with the present need.
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#6
I wouldn't expect the new hymnbooks or songbooks that have been announced to be available for at least a year – likely two years. Members are still being invited to submit suggestions and original compositions, so they're still in the gathering / research stage. However, I do think it would be wise to figure out how many are actually needed, as mentioned above – make observations in your ward to see how many people use the physical book, vs. the Sacred Music or Gospel Library apps.
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#7
We have a member of the ward that buys some book binding glue and repairs them as needed. A small piece of service that she has offered to us.
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#8
from what I understand from the FM group, no repaired hymn books are to be put in the Chapel. when repaired, they are to be given away to anyone who wants them. (My dad's family business was a printer, so I did a VERY good job repairing them, but they are not appropriate for the Chapel) I do wish we knew when the new ones will be available.
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#9
workmanbc1 wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:03 pm I do wish we knew when the new ones will be available.
Our chapels are full of repaired hymn books that are deemed to be appropriate for the chapel by our bishops and stake president. Our FM group has not given us any other specific instructions.

As for the new ones, this is my own personal opinion, but I expect that we are still quite a few years away from seeing them.
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#10
This article from the Church newsroom says new hymns start to roll out in the first half of 2024. Print copies will not be in place until some time in 2026.
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -worldwide
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#11
For anyone finding this (relatively old) thread, and wanting to know what to do if they have damaged hymn books, my suggestion would be to not order new ones even if the online store has that option.

Instead, I'd ask around your neighboring wards and/or stakes. I expect there are likely a number of units around any of us, that have plenty of unused new hymnals they've been keeping for replacements. And given the relatively short timeframe before we start receiving new hymnals (two or three years to go), I also expect there will end up being a lot of units that have to just throw away large numbers of brand new (or almost brand new) hymnals once the new ones are available.

The Church hasn't stated anything regarding transition plans or suggestions, so they may end up saying something different. So just something to consider if anyone finds this thread.
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#12
Can I please have one or two copies of the damage hymn books please!!
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#13
Dendaz wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:32 pm Can I please have one or two copies of the damage hymn books please!!
Whom are you asking? This is a user-to-user discussion forum with participants all over the planet. Shipping cost, even within a country, would likely be higher than purchase price for a new book.