LDS.org down for maintenance when trying to sync

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New Member
#1
Unable to sync. Getting error message that says LDS.org is down for maintenance. Been seeing this all day.

iPhone 8
iOS 12

Any suggestions?
New Member
#2
It continues still today.

iPhone 6S/ / iPad Mini 4
iOS 12
New Member
#3
Me too for two days
New Member
#4
Same here for the past two days on both my iPad and iPhone, all latest updates.
Senior Member
#5
Well it is Conference weekend! :D
New Member
#6
What's going on it tel me to try again later
Community Moderators
#7
gfuentesc wrote:What's going on it tel me to try again later
If you are trying to sync LDS Tools, the servers are down and will not be up again until later this evening at the earliest.
New Member
#8
Is there a current server status site to see if its actually down? I haven't been able to sync on my iPhone and iPad nor has my wife on her iPhone since the beginning of March.
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#9
robpneu wrote:Is there a current server status site to see if its actually down? I haven't been able to sync on my iPhone and iPad nor has my wife on her iPhone since the beginning of March.
It hasn't been down that long. What version of the app are you running? It may be out of date.
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#10
It does seem to be down now, (April 14, 2019)...is that correct? Is there an estimate of when it will be back up?

Also - the post a couple of messages back brings up something that would be good to have...some kind of “status” page we could go to in order to see if problems we are seeing are known, or if it is something with our own local networks (which happens quite often when using our meetinghouse Wi-Fi). Something akin to https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/ or https://status.aws.amazon.com/ would be nice....
New Member
#11
I've also had this same error message all day today. I'm in Chicago IL, with a Google pixel 2XL, running lds tools app version 3.5.4 (100020.1).
Community Administrator
#12
I did a sync just now and it went though. Version 3.5.4, Android.
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#13
russellhltn wrote:I did a sync just now and it went though. Version 3.5.4, Android.
Mine is also syncing now.
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#14
I'm having the same issue. I've been getting the message that LDS tools is down for maintenance since last week. Android version 3.5.4
New Member
#15
I'm getting error "Lds.org down for maintenance . Please try again later" I've uninstalled the app and tried again. Others seem to be able to update. Any special instructions on how to fix this? ver 3.5.3 (6417). Iphone X 12.2
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#16
heapgt wrote:I'm getting error "Lds.org down for maintenance . Please try again later" I've uninstalled the app and tried again. Others seem to be able to update. Any special instructions on how to fix this? ver 3.5.3 (6417). Iphone X 12.2
This is not a user device issue. It is a connection to the server issue and is beyond your control and may be due to either heavy server load, servers going down, or server maintenance in progress. Just as the message states, try again later. If you get the message on Sunday, then try on a weekday when the activity is lower for the servers.
JD Lessley
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New Member
#17
It seems that every Sunday this is down. That doesn’t seem normal. One would think the Church’s servers would handle traffic.
New Member
#18
bigmac182 wrote:It seems that every Sunday this is down. That doesn’t seem normal. One would think the Church’s servers would handle traffic.
Agreed. I can’t remember the last time i could sync on a Sunday (which is kind of a pain...given that Sunday’s are when presidency meetings are...and we would like to sync)

Maybe the servers are just trying to keep the sabbath holy...
New Member
#19
Saturday is a special day, it’s the day we get ready for Sunday.
We clean our house and we sync our phones,
‘cause the servers won’t work until Monday!
New Member
#20
Same error as everyone else...all day...both devices... and cannot exit the Sync screen. If the possibility exists that the server is down for maintenance then at least allow us the option to see and use the standard UI and not be stuck at the Sync view. Also, the error that ChurchOfJesusChrist.org is down for maintenance is misleading as I can clearly load and see that url.

Thanks
Neil Taylor
Community Moderators
#21
The message is cryptic and used for a variety of server issues. There are more than one server used in completing the synchronization process. Only one of those servers needs to be down for you to get the message. Syncing on Sundays during the one day of the week when nearly the entire church is using the online church resources typically causes usage and access overloads. Try syncing on weekdays rather than on Sundays.
JD Lessley
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#22
nwtaylor wrote:Same error as everyone else...all day...both devices... and cannot exit the Sync screen. If the possibility exists that the server is down for maintenance then at least allow us the option to see and use the standard UI and not be stuck at the Sync view. Also, the error that ChurchOfJesusChrist.org is down for maintenance is misleading as I can clearly load and see that url.

Thanks
Neil Taylor
I have no problem to exit the sync screen and use the app on sync failure (Android).
However as I remember, periodically the app forces a sync on startup before the app can be used. I think it is once a month or so but I haven't seen this happen for awhile. If that is the case then you would have to wait for the server to come back online.
Assistant Ward Clerk
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#23
jdlessley wrote:The message is cryptic and used for a variety of server issues. There are more than one server used in completing the synchronization process. Only one of those servers needs to be down for you to get the message. Syncing on Sundays during the one day of the week when nearly the entire church is using the online church resources typically causes usage and access overloads. Try syncing on weekdays rather than on Sundays.
Ok, 2 requests (from a software developer of 39 years, including 7 iOS/mobile):

1) a less "cryptic" message, something that accurately represents the state, such as a popup with the description/title "Currently Unable to Connect to a Server Used for Syncing" - or "Due to High Demand, Sync Servers are Currently Unavailable." "<url> down for maintenance" is simply not true and is misleading, especially if the user sees that several times over the course of a day, potentially leading to more support calls.

2) UX that allows the user to continue to use the app when the state is "Sync required" but when attempts to connect/sync are failing. For example, include options with the new message in the popup above to "Continue using LDS Tools with current (possibly outdated) data" and "Cancel/Retry Sync Later". Something to that effect. Disclaimer that data is possibly outdated is built into the message of the first option. Users can certainly live with that.

Thanks again for your response.
Neil Taylor
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#24
nwtaylor wrote:Ok, 2 requests (from a software developer of 39 years, including 7 iOS/mobile):
I'd suggest routing those to the "contact us" link under "help" in the app. That gets to developers.

The forum is primarily user-to-user support.
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#25
nwtaylor wrote:2) UX that allows the user to continue to use the app when the state is "Sync required" but when attempts to connect/sync are failing. For example, include options with the new message in the popup above to "Continue using LDS Tools with current (possibly outdated) data" and "Cancel/Retry Sync Later". Something to that effect. Disclaimer that data is possibly outdated is built into the message of the first option. Users can certainly live with that.
Outdated data is not the only concern. Part of what happens with a sync is to validate that you are still a member of a specific unit and should have access to data for that unit. That verification happens during the sync process. If the app continued to run with syncing, it would be possible for a user to maintain a copy of old data indefinitely by preventing the device from syncing.
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#26
scgallafent wrote:If the app continued to run with syncing, it would be possible for a user to maintain a copy of old data indefinitely by preventing the device from syncing.
What about allowing it just a one-week extension if the syncing fails? The member would have to remember to try and sync sometime during the week, but it would avert a problem with being locked out if the initial time-out coincides with down servers.
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#27
russellhltn wrote:
scgallafent wrote:If the app continued to run with syncing, it would be possible for a user to maintain a copy of old data indefinitely by preventing the device from syncing.
What about allowing it just a one-week extension if the syncing fails? The member would have to remember to try and sync sometime during the week, but it would avert a problem with being locked out if the initial time-out coincides with down servers.
Yes. That would be a simple and acceptable policy and UX.
Church Employee
#28
russellhltn wrote:What about allowing it just a one-week extension if the syncing fails? The member would have to remember to try and sync sometime during the week, but it would avert a problem with being locked out if the initial time-out coincides with down servers.
That's a reasonable idea. We've got some other work going on around this, so it may not be something that goes in just because there is other work going on to improve the process.
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#29
scgallafent wrote:That's a reasonable idea. We've got some other work going on around this, so it may not be something that goes in just because there is other work going on to improve the process.
Hopefully the underlying problem is getting fixed and has priority. But there's always local situations that might arise that prevents syncing when the directory is most needed. So, I'm hoping some implementation of my idea comes to pass.
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#30
russellhltn wrote:What about allowing it just a one-week extension if the syncing fails?
You already get five chances to pass. I don't know how long that would last, but I would think you would be able at least to get to Monday.

During the long no-sync problem earlier this year, the app kept running for me even though the sync failed. The app recorded the failed sync as the last sync and kept right on going. I did lose specialty items, such as Handbook 1, when the sync was finally forced upon me. But it seems it got far enough into the process to keep my ward intact. I should probably get around to reporting that some day. It may be a bug. [grin]
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#31
lajackson wrote:
During the long no-sync problem earlier this year, the app kept running for me even though the sync failed. The app recorded the failed sync as the last sync and kept right on going. I did lose specialty items, such as Handbook 1,
Handbook 1 in LDS Tools, where do I find it? :)
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#32
Well, this thread is in the GL section. I suspect it took a turn when the thread was revived.
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#33
Biggles wrote:Handbook 1 in LDS Tools, where do I find it? :)
Touche! It has been a long month so far, and I am still winding down.
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#34
Biggles wrote:
lajackson wrote:
During the long no-sync problem earlier this year, the app kept running for me even though the sync failed. The app recorded the failed sync as the last sync and kept right on going. I did lose specialty items, such as Handbook 1,
Handbook 1 in LDS Tools, where do I find it? :)
You probably got a response...LDS Tools/Library/Leaders/Handbook 1
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#35
nwtaylor wrote:You probably got a response...LDS Tools/Library/Leaders/Handbook 1
The smiley face in the Biggles post was an indicator that Handbook 1 is not in Member Tools. It is in Gospel Library. Touche is a French word that, roughly translated, means, Wow, I really should have known that.
#36
Having trouble in iOS syncing the LDS tools for the last couple of days. It’s saying that LDS.org is down for maintenance, but when I go into the tools through LDS.org, it is working fine, the library is syncing fine, is anyone else having problems with iOS tools?
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#37
I have been trying to sync LDS Tools on several iPhones since Sunday morning (May 26) without any luck. The response is LDS.org is down for maintenance. Are there others that are seeing the same problem?

Thanks a bunch,
Keith
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#38
KeithT wrote:I have been trying to sync LDS Tools on several iPhones since Sunday morning (May 26) without any luck. The response is LDS.org is down for maintenance. Are there others that are seeing the same problem?
That's pretty common on Sunday. How are you connecting to the internet? The network you're using may be blocking it, or perhaps a security app is blocking it.
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#39
Been having this problem for a month now only on Apple devices. Simultaneous updates with and Android and IPad (IOS 10.3.3 with latest LDS Tools) the Android is successful but the iPad says "Down for Maintenance". Has anyone heard from the developers?
Laurence Mitchell
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#40
lmitchel wrote:Has anyone heard from the developers?
Yes. iOS 10 is no longer supported.

See Apple Store
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#41
Thanks. That is what I suspected. I will let my ward members know.
Laurence Mitchell
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#42
Just adding another wish for some kind of system status page to check. Couldn't get LDS Tools to sync, and wasn't sure if it was a result of the app update or a system outage (assuming the latter since I can't get to the directory on the website either)
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#43
Haven't been able to use LDSTools app for the last several weeks on my iPhone 5. Sync gives error "LDS.org is currently down for maintenance. Please try again later." What is the deal?
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#44
laneysearch wrote:Haven't been able to use LDSTools app for the last several weeks on my iPhone 5. Sync gives error "LDS.org is currently down for maintenance. Please try again later." What is the deal?
No support for iOS 10
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#45
Been getting this error now for 3 days...is something going on?
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#46
The issue today is that the sync servers are down.
JD Lessley
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#47
Is there an estimate when they will be back?
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#48
toonetown wrote:Is there an estimate when they will be back?
They're up and down. More down than up. They're trying to figure out "why".
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#49
Is there some kind of status page that we can use to know...so we don’t need to post here?
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#50
toonetown wrote:Is there some kind of status page that we can use to know...so we don’t need to post here?
No. And unfortunately, things that go down on the weekend usually do not come back up until Monday, at the earliest. It is painful, but really the only method we mere users have is just to keep trying. Often someone posts here when they are successful so that we can all jump in and overload it again.
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#51
jakobfisher wrote:Unable to sync. Getting error message that says LDS.org is down for maintenance. Been seeing this all day.

iPhone 8
iOS 12

Any suggestions?
No suggestion but I have the same problem. Two or three tries this morning, Monday 12/9/19
iPhone X
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#52
toonetown wrote:Been getting this error now for 3 days...is something going on?
I'm in the same boat. I even uninstalled the app and reinstalled just for kicks and giggles but still same error when trying to login. Though It tells me that its the wrong login if i use an incorrect password so not the auth servers.
Community Moderators
#53
You are in good company The system will be back up as soon as they are able to complete troubleshooting and get it going again. There is nothing to be done before then.
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#54
I’ve been experiencing this problem too. Very frustrating!!
New Member
#55
I have tried to delete Member Tools and reload it, but still says down for maintenance.....
Church Employee
#56
Engineers are working on it. I don't think anyone has a firm "when" yet.
New Member
#57
Any update to this error? This is still occurring for me.
New Member
#58
I was getting it. I removed the app and tried to sign in, but same problem. I installed the 13.3 iPhone update. After I signed into LDS Tools and was able to sync.
New Member
#59
Cool, something to try. I will report on my trying this solution.
New Member
#60
Thanks for the tip. This worked for me.
New Member
#61
I've had this issue for what's felt like a year. Just bought a brand new iPhone XS running IOS 13.3. Was super excited to finally have access to LDS/Member Tools again. But, Nooooooo.... "Down for Maintenance..."

This wouldn't be nearly so frustrating if we still printed ward lists, or sent out proper notifications with addresses on them. Instead, everyone in the ward assumes that everyone has access to this thing and only provides cryptic texts like "Meet at the Smiths at 4. Oh, that's the newer Smiths too." I don't know who the Smiths are, let alone where they live, and I'm tired of looking like the ward idiot having to text back requesting an address, waiting for their inevitable reply of "check LDS Tools," then having my inevitable reply of how it doesn't work for me because my phone is too old.

I, sort-of, understand why you would lock out older operating systems. But now it's not even working on a brand new one.

Please fix this.

Find a solution for ward members who can't afford the latest devices, and get it working for those that do.
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#62
taaronbennett wrote:Please fix this.
Please read through the posts before yours in this topic to learn about the problem and how it is being addressed. Also, this is a user-to-user forum, so no one here will be able to do anything about the problem. There are other numerous topics on this same subject here at the forum that will shed some light on the issue.
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#63
I'll add that Sundays are particularly bad times to sync.
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