Assigning out-of-unit members as 'Ministering Brother/Sister'

How does one create a calling as Ministering Brother or Sister?

I don't know as that's allowable. I know it wasn't possible for a out-of-unit member to be a Home Teacher or Visiting Teacher. I don't know if the same rules may still apply under the new system.

What we do in our Single Ward, is we print two copies of the assignment and hand write the person in. Both of our bishopric members want assignments but it would be nice to include out of unit members especially in a YSA ward.

jbrummett wrote:but it would be nice to include out of unit members especially in a YSA ward.

I suggest you talk to the stake president about kicking the idea upstairs. The developers don't have any say in this. They were specifically told that out-of-unit couldn't participate. This is decided by the Brethren - who do not visit this forum. Hence the suggestion to have the stake president take it up with his presiding authority.

Normally, out-of-unit members minister or receive ministering visits from their home ward – their home ward elders quorum or Relief Society president has stewardship for them.

Hi,
I have a very simple question, as a newly called Elders Quorum President, How do I assign and manage ministering assignments? LDS Tools? LDS.org? I have no idea

laiwong22 wrote:I have a very simple question, as a newly called Elders Quorum President, How do I assign and manage ministering assignments? LDS Tools? LDS.org? I have no idea

lcr.lds.org

Keep in mind that any changes you make will be seen by the membership even before the bishop gets a change to approve them.

How do we assign ministering couples? Also if we have a ministering couple and the father has a son that will be going on a mission but have him assigned with two families and one family he is assigned to his wife. How do we clarify that in the records? Any help much appreciated!

Shaunferguson wrote:How do we assign ministering couples? Also if we have a ministering couple and the father has a son that will be going on a mission but have him assigned with two families and one family he is assigned to his wife. How do we clarify that in the records?

Create a companionship with the husband and the wife as a ministering couple. Then create another companionship with the father and the son as a ministering couple. (Or vice versa.) Assign the appropriate families to each companionship.

When you try to create a second companionship for the husband, LCR will alert you that he is already in a companionship and ask if you wish to have him in the new companionship. Just say yes. He can be in both places at once.

How do you do this? How do you assign married couples as a companionship. That was the question and you said to just create them - how?

In LCR, select Ministering > Elders Quorum from the menu and then select the Assignments tab. Find the district for the companionship and go to the end of the list of assignments for the district and click the Add Companionship link. In the box labeled Search Members first find and select the husband. Then in the additional box that shows up find and select the wife. The wife won't be available until first the husband has been selected.

In the Relief Society you have to first select the wife and then the husband.

Of course, for that to work, the two records must properly reference each other. If you still can't get the spouse, it might be time to talk to the membership clerk. Just because bother members are married to someone of the same name and living in the same household, doesn't mean the computer understands they're married to each other. We usually see that when the wife is showing up in the household as "other" (as if she were a child) instead of spouse.

We have sixteen (16) out-of-unit couples assigned to our branch as ministering couples; I can assign the men as ministering Elders, but NOT assign their wives as companions. I can assign the women as ministering sisters, but only in the Relief Society context. How do I assign the COUPLES to be companions?

dlwalton wrote:We have sixteen (16) out-of-unit couples assigned to our branch as ministering couples; I can assign the men as ministering Elders, but NOT assign their wives as companions. I can assign the women as ministering sisters, but only in the Relief Society context. How do I assign the COUPLES to be companions?

In the context of post #2 in this thread it is possible that is why you cannot assign out of unit couples to minister together.

However, if out of unit members are allowed, or intended, to minister in their out of unit calling units then it appears the linking, or the lack thereof, of out of unit records by marriage is the issue. When out of unit member records are created there currently is no marriage connection between any two out of unit records. The handling of home ward records with properly linked married couples is recognized by the ministering application. Since the ministering application does not recognize the marriage link between out of unit couples then it will not provide the spouse name as an available companion.

I recommend sending feedback through an LDS.org page feedback link. It is hard to impossible to tell if they are aware of the issue with out of unit couples and the need to connect married couple records for the ministering application. That of course assumes the Brethren intended for out of unit members to minister in the units they were called to serve in.

Previously, it was impossible to assign an out of unit member as a ht/vt. I don't know if that's changed or not with the new program.

I'm not aware of any official communication that would support calling people outside of the ward specifically for Ministering.

In order to assign married couples as a companionship, they need to be in the same household. At the time the out-of-unit member record is being created, the leader has the option to assign them as a head of household or as part of a household. This cannot be edited after the fact, so the leader must decide on entering the information how it should display. If he assigns someone as a head of the household and then wants to change it later, he will need to remove the out of unit record for that person and go through the process again, as the information will not be editable.