Adding Non member spouse information in LCR

Having difficulty updating a member's non-member spouse info from home using LCR. Is this even possible within the capabilities of current software? Assuming it's fairly straightforward from MLS. Using LCR, software only offers addition of members to a household, so I can't even get to where I might add a NM spouse.

To even get the new last name, I had to select the option for legal name change (which it is), since guidance chosen for option for new marriage told me to add the marriage and the software would automatically add the new last name. Except -- no where I could find using LCR to add the marriage to a non member!!!

Help, please.

Thank you.

CKB

This function is still only available in MLS at the moment.

Any update on this? Because this function is not in MLS anymore

Yes, marriages are now recorded in LCR. Find the member's profile (using the search box or the Member List), click on the Family tab and then click on the Add Marriage link.

I have an interesting twist to this. I have a member whose husband was baptized in 2015. But unfortunately when this was all recorded the wife shows up as 'other' in the household. Their children all link correctly, but it won't register them as husband and wife. I've tried splitting and combining the households. I've tried updating all the names with middle names but that didn't seem to help. In the descriptions it lists them as non member spouses, even though they both have baptismal dates. Help?

hoopla4u wrote:In the descriptions it lists them as non member spouses, even though they both have baptismal dates. Help?

Call Local Unit Support on Monday. They're not properly linked to each other. As a result, when you put the wife into his household, she doesn't match up and gets classified as "other"

You can't fix this from your end without ending up with a false divorce and remarriage.

hoopla4u wrote:I have an interesting twist to this. I have a member whose husband was baptized in 2015. But unfortunately when this was all recorded the wife shows up as 'other' in the household. Their children all link correctly, but it won't register them as husband and wife. I've tried splitting and combining the households. I've tried updating all the names with middle names but that didn't seem to help. In the descriptions it lists them as non member spouses, even though they both have baptismal dates. Help?

Yet another example demonstrating the need for the ward clerk to review the convert baptism paperwork prepared by the missionaries before it goes to the mission office for data entry. I suspect all the relationships in this case would have been entered correctly if all information, including MRNs, had been entered correctly on the form.
As Russell said, Local Unit Support can fix all that.

When will LCR be updated to include addition of a non-member spouse?
This is really messing up our ward's records...
As a stop-gap measure, could a "Notes" text box be added to the member's profile?
This way non-member spouse's information can be saved, then officially migrated later when LCR is updated...

Due to privacy laws, I doubt we'll ever get that. You can record them as the spouse on the member's record.

If it helps any, you can make them visible in the on-line directory so the member doesn't look like they're single. But you have to contact support for that. Last I knew, there was nothing you could do at your end to change that.

russellhltn wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:50 am Due to privacy laws, I doubt we'll ever get that. You can record them as the spouse on the member's record.

If it helps any, you can make them visible in the on-line directory so the member doesn't look like they're single. But you have to contact support for that. Last I knew, there was nothing you could do at your end to change that.

Actually this is backwards currently, at least in the United States. The non-member spouse will show up in the online directory and member tools based on the current marriage information in the member's membership record, UNLESS the clerk contacts the GSD to have the non-member spouse suppressed.

garystroble wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:10 am Actually this is backwards currently, at least in the United States. The non-member spouse will show up in the online directory and member tools based on the current marriage information in the member's membership record, UNLESS the clerk contacts the GSD to have the non-member spouse suppressed.

From posts made here, it seems it could go either way. We'd had people who want to add it and we'd had people wanting to take it off. Some clerks have indicated mixed results in their own ward. I'm not sure what the default is.

Either way, if it's not to the member's liking, it is fixable but support has to be contacted.

russellhltn wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:37 pm

garystroble wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:10 am Actually this is backwards currently, at least in the United States. The non-member spouse will show up in the online directory and member tools based on the current marriage information in the member's membership record, UNLESS the clerk contacts the GSD to have the non-member spouse suppressed.

From posts made here, it seems it could go either way. We'd had people who want to add it and we'd had people wanting to take it off. Some clerks have indicated mixed results in their own ward. I'm not sure what the default is.

Either way, if it's not to the member's liking, it is fixable but support has to be contacted.

Perhaps the default was selected way back when by the stake president in the initial set up for the web page? Just a wild guess.

garystroble wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:58 pm Perhaps the default was selected way back when by the stake president in the initial set up for the web page? Just a wild guess.

I'm trying to remember if there was such as switch in LUWS (the very first web pages for members).

The default is to show them. To hide them requires a call to GSD.

Hello, I have a question regarding adding a non-member spouse in LCR. I have a female member who married a non-member spouse, but does not want her name changed to his last name in LCR. Is this option possible? I can go to the members information in LCR and under the family tab, I can click on Add Marriage. Then the first question asked, Is the Husband a Member of the Church? When I click on no, then a bunch of boxes show up where I can put the husband's name, birth date, and marriage date, place and country. Then I click on the blue Add Spouse button. But I don't want to click on this button until I know that there is a way to keep the wife's maiden name in LCR. She does not want her husband's last name to become her last name in LCR. Can this be done?

Dennis Miles
Fossil RIdge Ward Clerk
Fort Worth, Texas

dbmiles74701 wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:51 pm I have a female member who married a non-member spouse, but does not want her name changed to his last name in LCR. Is this option possible?
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She does not want her husband's last name to become her last name in LCR. Can this be done?

Refer to General Handbook, 33.6.1. The "full legal name, as defined by local law or custom, should be used in membership records." Was her named changed when she got married? If not, then make sure the name entered when recording the marriage is what was filed during her marriage.

While the record should show her full legal name, what is displayed on directories and lists is at her discretion. That is done by changing the preferred name. Review her record after the marriage is recorded to make sure the the full legal name is recorded and the preferred name is as she would like it.

Be sure to check the household name is what she would like it to be.