Ward Computer Standard Build

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Hi All!!

So what is the standard build of a typical Ward meetinghouse PC nowadays?

Is it true that the church is rolling out Openoffice.org?

Sorry for the possibly obvious questions, I am not a member (but wife is). I am an IT professional, working as a Enterprise Architect in the UK as well as being an active member of the Free software community.
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I'm not sure of the specs on the machines that are being put into wards. I have seen OpenOffice put on unit computers. I'm not sure if this is Church wide or in selected units. Doesn't sound like I was of much help.

Tom
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#3

Open Office

All of the unit computers in our stake have OO pre-installed.
Eric Poulin
Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
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#4

OpenOffice

In the past we've included OpenOffice on the MLS desktop image because it was free and seemed like a decent throw-in, given the price. We haven't done a ton of analysis to see how much it's being used, but I suspect it's not used a whole lot.
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OO Usage in Units

Joel Dehlin wrote:In the past we've included OpenOffice on the MLS desktop image because it was free and seemed like a decent throw-in, given the price. We haven't done a ton of analysis to see how much it's being used, but I suspect it's not used a whole lot.
In our unit anyway, we use the Word Processor to type any letters needed, and I taught the clerk to use the spreadsheet program to track our ward goals on a simple bar graph so we can keep ward members up to date on our progress.
Eric Poulin
Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
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Our Ward is making use of the word processor and spreadsheet as well. Though it's not used often, I'd still list it as essential. If OO was pulled, then we'd need something else.
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#7
The church could get some publicity out of the oo.org deployments, if you switched to oo.org as the default office suite then it would make the tech press as I imagine the size of the desktop estate is quite significant.
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Desktop 5.5 which re-images the machine contains OO 2.0. Judging from the unofficial clerks' list, it sounds like that's being done to all unit administrative computers - at least in U.S.

OO was available before. Some time back the church would hand out MS Works, but hasn't done so in quite some time. (2-3 years?) I have to say that OO is an improvement over Works as it can read and write files in MS Office format, which is more then you can say for Works. :(

Yeah, I suppose the church could get some publicity over that, but Open Source isn't part of our religious theology. :D Still, the price/performance ratio is excellent. There are a lot of Ward and Stake computers out there to license. That adds up to a pretty penny.
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portseven wrote:Hi All!!

So what is the standard build of a typical Ward meetinghouse PC nowadays?

Is it true that the church is rolling out Openoffice.org?

Sorry for the possibly obvious questions, I am not a member (but wife is). I am an IT professional, working as a Enterprise Architect in the UK as well as being an active member of the Free software community.
The standard desktop build for local units include:

Windows XP Professional SP2
OpenOffice 2.0
PDF creation software
Photo album software (some image editing capability)
Security Software

We try to keep the image really light. There will certainly be tweaks as we do more analysis on cost/performance.

The moniker "5.5" is a version number.
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peterw wrote:The standard desktop build for local units include:

Photo album software (some image editing capability)
Can you shed any light on why? I was surprised to see that as I've never heard of any ward or stake that use their machines for any photo-related tasks. Is this a preview of something to come?

Also, the instructions that came with the desktop need correction. We were given Flash Player, not Flash Professional. :D
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Do all systems have this setup (Desktop 5.5) or is this just for the new computers that are released (installed)?
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thedqs wrote:Do all systems have this setup (Desktop 5.5) or is this just for the new computers that are released (installed)?
If it's not there yet, I think it's going to be there soon. At least that seems to be the sound I hear from the unofficial list. The most telling indicator is that with Desktop 5.5, the hard drive is partitioned into C and D.
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I was just remembering that the stake computers had Windows 2000 and Office 2000. Of course those might be on an entirely different system.
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thedqs wrote:I was just remembering that the stake computers had Windows 2000 and Office 2000. Of course those might be on an entirely different system.
They'll have WinXP when this is done. But then if they had Win2000, the machines may be too old for this update and they are waiting for replacements.
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I won't know if they do upgrade, since it was in my old stake. I am pretty sure that computer was not too old. Anyway thanks for the info.
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OO was included in the new re-image that we had on our computer this week.

We don't use it all that often, really. Probably because I'm one of a small handful that ever uses a computer very often. The spreadsheet is really the only one I have ever seen used. That isn't saying a whole lot considering I've only been the ward clerk for about a year and a half, but that's the only one I've seen used, and only by two members of our bishopric.
Jason D. Griffith
Pampa Ward, Amarillo Stake (Texas)
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#17
I know at for the stake computer the tech specialist used the word processing program (MS Word at the time) to print the labels for the recorded videos/dvds.
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gblack wrote:Our Ward is making use of the word processor and spreadsheet as well. Though it's not used often, I'd still list it as essential. If OO was pulled, then we'd need something else.
I agree. We don't use the office software very often but we do use it from time to time. We've written letters, printed labels, and created spreadsheets. It allows us to do things right away rather than taking it home and bringing it back next week. OO seems to be great and we have not run into limitations while using it. Since people don't use it very much but would like to have something, the price seems great.
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RussellHltn wrote:Can you shed any light on why? I was surprised to see that as I've never heard of any ward or stake that use their machines for any photo-related tasks. Is this a preview of something to come?

Also, the instructions that came with the desktop need correction. We were given Flash Player, not Flash Professional. :D

Single Adult wards have used them in making directories. Instead of having each ward do that, we pre-installed some software. I don't think this is a "preview of something to come"; it just made sense to make it available.

i will make sure the documentation is corrected. Thanks.
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RussellHltn wrote:Can you shed any light on why? I was surprised to see that as I've never heard of any ward or stake that use their machines for any photo-related tasks. Is this a preview of something to come?
I have no idea where it came from, but we found a legit copy of Publisher 97 laying around. Might be old, but still does the job. We use it on occasion to print banners or flyers, and were kicking the idea around of starting a branch newsletter. Photos come in from USB flash drives and people's digital cameras, so an imaging editor being handy isn't that much of a stretch.

We were using the database feature in Open Office to keep track of our member-missionary door knocking efforts. We'd take little booklets out with us to note which address numbers we attempted on each street, and abbreviations for the results (NH=not home, CB=come back later, NI=not interested, PI=potential investigator, etc.) When we return to the building we then key this all into a database so later we can run a report for the neighborhood that shows the last several visit attempts on each street. You can also run a report of just those in the neighborhood that showed some degree of interest so you don't waste your time coming back to the people who repeatedly said they are completely uninterested.

We added a comments field where we can add in a couple words that caught our attention. Often people will say they already attend some other church, so we ask them which write it down as we're walking to the next house. When that shows up on the report next time as we're approaching the door, sometimes it is helpful in striking up a conversation as you can begin to ask them about their specific beliefs in reference to something or other their denomination teaches. If you can get someone to really start thinking for themselves whether something is true or not, then they are much more likely to desire to hear our views of the topic.

When someone is found through these quorum efforts that indicates a desire to have us come back and teach them, their name & address gets keyed into the Referral Manager website (referrals.lds.org) with the name of the member that found them specified as the "missionary" that referred them. We do it as a missionary referral instead of a member referral so we can distinguish the stats & reports between referrals of people our members are aquainted with, verses those we found simply going out into the community knocking on doors.

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jeffphil wrote:We were using the database feature in Open Office to keep track of our member-missionary door knocking efforts. We'd take little booklets out with us to note which address numbers we attempted on each street, and
Cool. How did you get the initial list of addresses? All by hand, or were you able to get a list from the Post Office or something?
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RussellHltn wrote:Cool. How did you get the initial list of addresses? All by hand, or were you able to get a list from the Post Office or something?
It is easy to do by hand. With your first pass through the neighborhood, just get a pocket size notebook to write in. Write the neighborhood and name of the street at the top of each page. Then all you have to do is note the house number portion of the address as you approach each house. As you leave note a two-letter abbreviation as to the status of the investigator. (NI=not interested, CB=come back, etc.)

Since people often have differing schedules and aren't home when we stop by, and because some will ignore us the first couple of times but eventually soften their heart enough to be curious as to our message, we set a goal of making 5 passes through each neighborhood within the village limits of the town our chapel is in. This goal is a far stretch from fully covering the 1000 square miles our boundaries reach, but it is a good effort.

We've gone out with the young men teachers & priests a few times and I hope to continue that. Since we don't have full time missionaries here, its a good chance for them to learn about missionary work by pairing off with the branch missionaries for a while.
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#23

I'd say OO is essential!

Joel Dehlin wrote:We haven't done a ton of analysis to see how much it's being used, but I suspect it's not used a whole lot.
I'm the stake tech specialist of a stake in Georgia. We have old Works documents that would be unusable otherwise. I don't think MS Office will read the works docs that we have.

Go OpenOffice! Thanks for including it.
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OT: Unofficial Cleck's list?

RussellHltn wrote:Judging from the unofficial clerks' list, it sounds like that's being done to all unit administrative computers - at least in U.S.

I'm unaware of any clerk's 'list'. Could you fill me in. You might have noticed my other post, begging for more documentation or community help.

Much thanks
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oobx wrote:I'm unaware of any clerk's 'list'. Could you fill me in. You might have noticed my other post, begging for more documentation or community help.

Much thanks
Is this the one, RussellHltn? http://ldsoss.org/index.php/The_Unofficial_MLS_FAQ
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mkmurray wrote:Is this the one, RussellHltn? http://ldsoss.org/index.php/The_Unofficial_MLS_FAQ
Nevermind, I found the link RussellHltn is talking about. It's this link from [post=2692]this post[/post].
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mkmurray wrote:Nevermind, I found the link RussellHltn is talking about. It's this link from [post=2692]this post[/post].
No, that's the Wiki. This is the link he seeks. (Warning: You're entering cranky old 'coot territory. ;) )
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LOL, our two links are nearly identical, but the .php and .html extensions make a big difference. :)
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mkmurray wrote:LOL, our two links are nearly identical, but the .php and .html extensions make a big difference. :)
Indeed! Totally different "product".

I'm serious about the warning - a member just posted a rant today.
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#30

Open Office is awesome

I use Open Office every week specifically for spreadsheets to log attendance data and such. I use Microsoft Office at home so I find creating Word docs at home and then modifying them at the building is very nice. I have also done this vice versa as well. Please continue to provide Open Office on the Software Rollouts.
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#31
The PhotoAlbum / Editing software is to help with the Ward History keeping requirement.
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rogerbull wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 12:05 pm The PhotoAlbum / Editing software is to help with the Ward History keeping requirement.
Just curious: Is that insider information or just speculation? Also, when was the question asked that you answered? The most recent prior post is from 2007, so things may have changed between when the question was asked and now.
#33
Keep in mind that open office is no longer valid. Libreoffice works great now and will likely require the clerk or STS to download and install it.

https://www.libreoffice.org/
Ryan Gardner