Transferring myldsmail emails to gmail (via POP?)

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#1
I just returned from my mission, and want to move my emails from my myldsmail account to my regular gmail account. The only problem, is that the POP system will not connect with the myldsmail account. I've tried using different servers (pop.myldsmail.net, smtp.gmail.com) and different ports (995. 993) with no success. I've tried turning off the "Always use a secure connection when retrieving mail." option as well with no different results.

Does anyone know how to do this? Is there maybe some option besides POP?
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#2
Welcome home! I'm not a developer or help desk employee, just a dad who watched his son do it.

Did you receive the "instructions" email AND password to transfer these emails yet? It should come from the church to your MYLDSMAIL missionary inbox, warning you to transfer the emails if you wish before the account access is removed. IMPORTANT: You can't transfer them BEFORE this email arrives because you need a password it provides.
The password you need IS NOT your myldsmail password, but is unique just for the purpose of transferring your emails. It may take a week or two (if I remember right) for this email to show up, but we followed it exactly for my son, and it worked just great. It gives you the pop servers and detailed instructions to use as well.

May good fortune and blessings follow you as you choose the next path for your life!
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#3
Use this and follow all the instructions, especially the 'Unlock Captcha' and the 'allow less secure apps'. When I did that, it allowed the import without a problem

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
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#4
The following information is the official support document for MyLDSMail:

Summary

User has completed his/her mission and wants to transfer the emails from their MyLDSMail account to a personal one. Missionaries are allowed to POP their email upon completion of their mission, this is how.

Self Support

The MyLDSMail settings are tied to the release date of that missionary. This date is set by the Missionary department when they are called. So, their actual release date from the mission may be earlier than this date. Once they are officially released (by their mission) they will be identified as released.

After this, every time they login to MyLDSMail (http://myldsmail.net) they will be given instructions along with a password to use for POP (see below). The password is different from their LDS Account and is by design (given to them when they login with their LDSAccount). The POP settings will also be given upon the system recognizing that they are officially released.

So, give it 2-3 weeks until the Missionary system shows they are released and their LDS Account is updated to show they are no longer a full time missionary. Then just login to http://myldsmail.net and you will have instructions on how to POP your MyLDSMail.net email to another system.

There is no way to POP the account early.
There is no way to speed up the process.

Instructions:

The following are the instructions given to a missionary upon logging into their MyLDSMail.net accounts:

______________________________________________________________
Your Account has Been Disabled

Saving Your Mission E-mail

Elder/Sister/Missionary, thank you for your service. Your MyLDSMail account has been disabled because your mission has ended or for another reason. This means that you will be able still be able to sign in and receive e-mail, but you will not be able to send e-mail.

If you wish to preserve your MyLDSMail messages you can move all of them to a personal e-mail account. You will do this using POP, Post Office Protocol, which means retrieving all messages from one e-mail account and moving them to another. Here are the technical details you need to do this:

  • POP Server: pop.gmail.com
  • User Name: their.address@myldsmail.net
  • Password: ########## (usually a 10-digit, randomly assigned password)
  • Note: Your user name is your full e-mail address. This password is different than the LDS Account password you've been using to sign in. It is a unique password that allows Google to identify you. Please write this information down and save it.


Google provides the following configuration instructions for migrating your mail to another Gmail account or program installed on your computer. If using another provider (Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.) please use their instructions on how to import POP e-mail. You can also print each message by selecting Print All in the top right corner.
______________________________________________________________

The port number used is 995 and requires SSL encryption. Remember that the username is the full e-mail address. Clicking on the link to 'configuration instructions' opens a Google Help page with options to configure it in Outlook, Entourage, etc. To POP the messages into another Gmail account, go to Settings > Accounts and Import > Import mail and contacts and enter in the settings as described.

Note: By default, the option to save a copy of the emails in the MyLDSMail.net account instead of deleting them from the server is NOT selected. This is because pop.gmail.com settings do not support saving a copy of those emails. If the missionary tries to keep a copy of the emails, they will see "Error: This account cannot be imported right now, try again later." They will not be able to finish setting up the account until they uncheck the option to save a copy of the emails.

If that does not complete after that security settings may needs to be changed for the account.

  • Open a browser and go to Google.com and SIGN OUT of any account already logged in.
  • In the same browser session log in to MyLDSMail.net with the user’s LDSAccount and password.
  • Open a NEW TAB in that same browser and go to https://myaccount.google.com/security.
  • Verify that the user in the upper-right corner is the MyLDSMail account then scroll down to the bottom of the page. Locate “Allow less secure apps” and turn this ON.
  • SIGN OUT of both MyLDSMail.net and Google.
  • Log in to the Gmail account that email is to be imported into and configure the POP settings.
  • Mail should begin flowing from MyLDSMail.net to gmail.com.

One personal note from SingerGuy. Google only allows POP access to the Inbox and not to any other folders. The only way to get all email including other labeled folders and Sent mail is to view all items, check the Select All box at the top, just below the search bar, then look for a message to pop up with a yellow background above the message list that says something similar to this:

All 50 conversations on this page are selected. Select all 2,218 conversations in Primary.

Click on the link to select all conversations and the message will change to:

All 2,218 conversations in All Mail are selected. Clear selection

Now click on the box above the Subjects that says, "Move to Inbox." This will apply the Inbox tag to all of your messages. It is also recommended that when setting up the POP access in MyLDSMail that the setting should be to move messages to Archive after the mail is POP'ed to the other account so that if there is a problem with the process it is easier to see which messages were transferred and which were not.
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#5
Thanks for posting this!
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#6
SingerGuy wrote:Google provides the following configuration instructions for migrating your mail to another Gmail account or program installed on your computer. If using another provider (Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.) please use their instructions on how to import POP e-mail. You can also print each message by selecting Print All in the top right corner.
Just a slight correction to a great post. The above link is for instructions to export email via POP from one Gmail account to another Gmail account, or to an email client, such as Outlook or Thunderbird. The configuration instructions to import email from another POP server (such as MyLDSMail) into a Gmail account can be found here...

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/21289

Halfway down the page, expand the topic for "A different email provider" and follow the instructions.
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#7
If that does not complete after that security settings may needs to be changed for the account.
  • Open a browser and go to Google.com and SIGN OUT of any account already logged in.
  • In the same browser session log in to MyLDSMail.net with the user’s LDSAccount and password.
  • Open a NEW TAB in that same browser and go to https://myaccount.google.com/security.
  • Verify that the user in the upper-right corner is the MyLDSMail account then scroll down to the bottom of the page. Locate “Allow less secure apps” and turn this ON.
  • SIGN OUT of both MyLDSMail.net and Google.
  • Log in to the Gmail account that email is to be imported into and configure the POP settings.
  • Mail should begin flowing from MyLDSMail.net to gmail.com.
It won't let me do that. It says: This setting is managed by your domain administrator.

:(
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#8
e.nakayu wrote:
If that does not complete after that security settings may needs to be changed for the account.
  • Open a browser and go to Google.com and SIGN OUT of any account already logged in.
  • In the same browser session log in to MyLDSMail.net with the user’s LDSAccount and password.
  • Open a NEW TAB in that same browser and go to https://myaccount.google.com/security.
  • Verify that the user in the upper-right corner is the MyLDSMail account then scroll down to the bottom of the page. Locate “Allow less secure apps” and turn this ON.
  • SIGN OUT of both MyLDSMail.net and Google.
  • Log in to the Gmail account that email is to be imported into and configure the POP settings.
  • Mail should begin flowing from MyLDSMail.net to gmail.com.
It won't let me do that. It says: This setting is managed by your domain administrator.

:(
Since that post was originally created Google has changed their approach to the less secure apps. This is now controlled at the domain level and not by the users. This instruction should now be ignored as being obsolete.
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#9
What happens if I didn't POP my ldsmail in time? Can I still retrieve it if it's been 6 months or is it gone forever and it sucks to be me?
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#10
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taulealoen wrote:What happens if I didn't POP my ldsmail in time? Can I still retrieve it if it's been 6 months or is it gone forever and it sucks to be me?
Google usually deletes it, so your second opinion would be the more correct one. However, in this specific instance it has not been deleted yet. I just turned your account back on. Please POP it today before it gets automatically turned off during our next synchronization.
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#11
taulealoen wrote:What happens if I didn't POP my ldsmail in time? Can I still retrieve it if it's been 6 months or is it gone forever and it sucks to be me?
You might be in luck. See this post.
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

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#12
russellhltn wrote:You might be in luck.
According to the post just prior to yours, it appears that things have changed. The poster got lucky thanks to some help from Headquarters.
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#13
Can I still retrieve my myldsmail email? I have been trying to reach it and it's going to be two years already. Please help me out. My ldsmail account is [redacted]. thank you!
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#14
armzyj wrote:Can I still retrieve my myldsmail email? I have been trying to reach it and it's going to be two years already.
After this length of time, probably not. Work with your ward clerk to contact the Global Service Center and see if your account is still on the system. Access usually goes away after around 60 days, and the account usually is deleted not long after that.
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#15
armzyj wrote:it's going to be two years already.
According to a prior post, it would have been permanently deleted at 18 months.
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#16
I just return from my mission and i want to serve my account to gmail, and am greatful to serve all my things here
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#17
The post linked in the first post in this thread has some useful information about timing of account actions:

https://tech.lds.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 87#p153380

I'm afraid I'm not acquainted with exact procedures to download and transfer email. Some details would depend on your operating system and available tools. It's not POP-based, but one of the first options I would likely attempt would be to forward each message to a more permanent account.
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#18
Thanks so much! This helped a ton!!! Couldn't figure out why it said "Error: This account cannot be imported right now. Please try again later." but now it we could fix it. Thanks again!
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#19
Hey, So I saw the pop screen the first two times when I signed in to my account but I put it off, now it doesn't show up anymore. All it does is take me strait to my email, since I don't have my password it will not let me transfer my emails. I've only been home for about a month so if I could get some advice, I would really appreciate it!
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#20
If we have lost/forgotten the 10-digit password required to export the emails via POP, is there a way that we can reset that, or a way we can retrieve it?
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#21
to change my account
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#22
pls i have a lot of important message in my account in myldsmail pls help me
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#23
Please be aware that this is a user-to-user forum, not an official help/support request channel. Someone who might know of a solution might reply here if the problem is clearly described. If you need reliable, immediate help, you'll need to use the official help channels. I don't happen to know what those channels are for myldsmail, but perhaps someone else who follows this topic/thread does.
#24
So I have been home about 10 days now. Am I supposed to wait for an email that will come to myldsmail.net account or what from POP? I have not received anything but need to know how to save all my emails! Thanks for the help!
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#25
In the context of email, POP stands for Post Office Protocol. More information can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Office_Protocol

POP is one of the protocols used by email client programs (aka Mail User Agent or MUA) to communicate with the server. More information can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_client

I don't happen to know whether you will receive any communication regarding moving your email messages, but I suspect other posts in this thread (27 posts in 3 pages) will likely shed some light on the subject.
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#26
It is my understanding that returned missionaries receive instructions on how to retrieve their email. I do not know the timing or method. But I also know that the Global Service Center knows how to do it.

I would suggest that if you do not receive anything within two weeks of your return, you ask your ward clerk to help you contact the GSC for the process.
#27
Another question on this topic. I'm helping a son transfer his emails and am not that familiar with Gmail. We downloaded his email to his personal Gmail account without first moving all of his missionary account sent mail into his missionary inbox. Is it possible to have a do-over and delete what we downloaded to his Gmail account and do it again including the sent mail this time?
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#28
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#29
Hi, I have been released from the mission almost three years now, and i would like to retrieve my mission photos but i cant log in to my lds mail anymore . Please help me.
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#30
On page 2 of this same thread/topic, there is a post from June 22, 2017 with a link to another thread that has some answers. This is that other thread:

https://tech.lds.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 87#p153380

From that thread, unless things have changed, it appears accounts are purged after 18 months.
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#31
Does this process still work with the new @missionary.org domain? Has it changed at all?
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#32
This was very helpful, but I never recieved an email with this information. How do I get one sent to me?
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#33