Moving Bookmark to Next Chapter?

I love to read the scriptures online at my computer and love that everything syncs with the Gospel Library app on my phone. But try as I might, I can't figure out how to move a given bookmark to the next chapter. When I'm done with whatever I'm reading for the day I'd like to be able to move my "daily reading" bookmark to my current position. But the only way I can do this is by creating a brand new bookmark and then going to the old one and deleting it. Suffice to say it gets a little bit tedious to do this every day. You are able to drag it up and down (very nice feature) within the same chapter, but from what I can see there's no way to move it on to the next chapter.

On the iPhone app this is very easy--you open the little bookmark menu and you're instructed to tap and hold the bookmark to update its location. Very convenient and works well. But typically I'd much rather read the scriptures at my computer (bigger screen, keyboard etc) than on my phone and I really can't figure out how to update the bookmark's position without deleted it and just creating a new one. Am I missing something?

Any help/tips would be appreciated! Thanks!

I haven't used the bookmarks feature on LDS.org but when I opened it up I don't see any way to create a new bookmark – only to edit the ones created in Gospel Library. I imagine they're still in the process of adding Gospel Library functionality in... Didn't see any way to move the bookmark to the next chapter either.

When signed in on LDS.org and go to the scriptures, down at the bottom of the page is a grey bar. It might be hidden in which case you click the small arrow on the bottom-left of the page. There is a bookmark button and it is easy to add bookmarks. Its also easy to visit the bookmark by just clicking on it. They also sync with the Gospel Library app. The issue, however, is they cannot be updated--or at least I can't figure out how to do it. The best method I've found is to delete them and make a new bookmark with the same name. But this is really inconvenient and awkward. On the app its quite simple to update/edit a bookmark, but I can't figure out how to do the same through the website. Any one else have any advice/suggestions?

I have noticed the same challenge / inability to move bookmarks on LDS.org. I end up going to my Android device to update bookmarks after studying from my personal computer. It isn't ideal but it beats re-creating my bookmarks each day. I have one for my priesthood lesson, another for my sunday school lesson, one for me personal scripture reading and another for my family scripture reading.

Someone at LDS.org really needs to fix this. It's been a problem for quite some time. I've been reading my scriptures online for a while now and this is definitely my biggest frustration. Please fix!!

brettonw wrote:Someone at LDS.org really needs to fix this.

If you have not done so already, then submit feedback using the LDS.org feedback link. This forum is primarily user to user support. We do have church employees visit the forums from time to time, but there is no requirement for them to do so. Even those employees who do visit may not be in a position to do anything about a problem.

The feedback link is not functioning on LDS.org.

herbderby wrote:The feedback link is not functioning on LDS.org.

What do you mean by "not functioning"? I just went to the home page of LDS.org, clicked on Feedback in the footer, and it brought up the feedback form as expected. I was able to submit feedback as well.

From the How To Guide for Study Notebook:

Your Notes and Journal bookmarks sync to the Gospel Library iOS and Android apps. However, the concept of bookmarks differs slightly between Notes and Journal and the apps. On Notes and Journal, bookmarks are links to your favorite articles, so the feature aligns more with social bookmarking tools (such as Delicious). In the apps, however, bookmarks are more like placeholders to remind yourself where you left off reading. They aren't intended to hold dozens of links.
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Online bookmarks function like a favorites button on your browser, but mobile bookmarks act like a bookmark in a book you are reading.

I have found that there is no need to delete the existing bookmark. Rather, you just create a new bookmark named the same as the existing bookmark that you would like to update, and it will update the existing bookmark. Still a lame work around, hopefully they will figure out something better.

That's one way to do it, but since when it was developed it was meant to mark all of your favorites and not keep your reading place, you can have hundreds of Bookmarks in online Notes. They are found in your Bookmarks folder. Since the most recent one is always on top, you can use the Bookmarks online as one would normally use a Bookmark simply by going to LDS.org, clicking on Sign In, clicking on Notes, THEN signing in. When you click on your Bookmarks folder (found in the section called Types on the left hand side), your latest place should be on top. Click on it and it will take you there.

All of the Study Tools are constantly being updated, so the best way to make sure that a feature you are requesting is seen by the appropriate department is to go to the Feedback link found on the bottom of just about any church website. Choose Suggestion and Study Notebook on the form, and then enter your suggestion.

When using the android app you just open the bookmarks and hold down on the bookmark you want to update. That is easy enough. The problem I want to fix is to be able to update the bookmark in lds.org because sometimes I read there instead of my phone. I can't even find the bookmarks on lds.org.

Go to LDS.org. Click on Sign IN at the top right. From the drop down men choose Notes. Then sign in. When your own personal Notes page appears, look at the column on the left hand side. One of the option should be Types. (If it is not expanded already, click on it.) Click on Bookmarks. The most recent item you Bookmarked should be on top.

While they both have the same name, Bookmarks work differently online and in the apps. The bookmarks in apps work like a bookmark you put in a paper book - they mark the last thing you read. Bookmarks online mark favourite things you want to go back to again and again - much like Pinterest.

Thank you so much for the work around! I have tried saving a new bookmark with the same name it and it seems to work and replace the old bookmark. Certainly not ideal but better than nothing.

What they need is a simple "update bookmark" button like what exists on the various mobile versions of Gospel Library. But at least for the time being I will use your suggestion. I greatly prefer reading one a computer whenever possible. And I'd use the Windows 8 app, but it is a "metro app" and I really don't like using metro apps at all. I would really love a non-metro PC version of Gospel Library, but for the time being I suppose the web version is my best option.

There needs to be better parody between the LDS.org Gospel Library and the various mobile versions. I feel like the web version is being neglected in favor of updating mobile versions. It's understandable of course, but remember that a lot of people are still using the web version. Thanks!

When I open Notes and look under Types, I see that I have 8 Bookmarks; however, when I click on Bookmarks, it shows a check next to it and does not show my 8 bookmarks on the right.

"Something better" is relative. If you like how bookmarks on your browser or on Pinterest work, online Notes works great. If you like how bookmarks in a paperback book work, GL app works great. In my role as a CSM who answers a lot of feedback at LDS.org regarding both, there are plenty of people who like how each works, and plenty of people who don't like how each works. Maybe the best solution would be to keep both, but rename the tool in Notes to Favorites.

This is how I've been able to move a bookmark to a different chapter. Go to the new chapter/verse where you want the existing bookmark to go. Tap the bookmarks icon. Tap and hold the existing bookmark you want to move. After a second or two, the list of bookmarks will close and the bookmark you tapped and held will now be moved to the new location.

I tried the work around stated above, but ended up with 2 bookmarks with the same name. The program did not erase the old bookmark. This is definitely frustrating! (Windows 10, Chrome Browser)

Brian,

Same here - it doesn't work. There's no way in the online tool to move a bookmark from page to page - you just have to delete and re-create.

Liz

Bookmarks work differently between the apps and online. In the apps, bookmarks work like a bookmark you place in an actual book - they are placeholders. In online Notes, bookmarks work like bookmarks in your web browser - they mark favorite pages that you want to go back to again and again. To go to your last bookmark in online Notes, go to LDS.org. Sign in. Click on your My Account and choose Notes. Click on Bookmarks in the left hand column. The last item you bookmarked should be at the top of the right hand column. Click on it.

P.S. You an also delete old bookmarks by doing the same as listed above, but clicking on the trash can in the right hand column.

PamelaBonta wrote:From the How To Guide for Study Notebook:

Your Notes and Journal bookmarks sync to the Gospel Library iOS and Android apps. However, the concept of bookmarks differs slightly between Notes and Journal and the apps. On Notes and Journal, bookmarks are links to your favorite articles, so the feature aligns more with social bookmarking tools (such as Delicious). In the apps, however, bookmarks are more like placeholders to remind yourself where you left off reading. They aren't intended to hold dozens of links.
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Online bookmarks function like a favorites button on your browser, but mobile bookmarks act like a bookmark in a book you are reading.

Then why are they called the same thing? And why are they linked to each other? If they are different and are meant to be used in different ways, then they should have different names and they should not update each other.

1. There are different groups of developers for different products. 2. Notes was developed about 6 years ago, and since it is web-based, uses web lingo. The apps are not that old and I don't know if there was a standard lingo for apps when they were first developed. 3. Many of our apps are developed by volunteers and church service missionaries under the guidance of church employees, or through LDStech contests.

They are linked to each other because they all sync to the LDS Cloud so that people can access their annotations from any supported device.

esfaulkner7@gmail.com wrote:Rather, you just create a new bookmark named the same as the existing bookmark that you would like to update, and it will update the existing bookmark. Still a lame work around, hopefully they will figure out something better.

I did this and it did not update the existing bookmark, but created a new one

aaronkdale, please see my work around that i posted in this thread on nov 21 2014 - it is currently the only work around that works for bookmarks in online notes.

My bookmark updates when I create a new one using the same name of the one I want to update as described by esfaulkner7

It would be a simple thing to update the web functionality to match the mobile functionality and make the bookmarks editable. Doing so would in no way impact the functionality for those who prefer to use the bookmarks as a "favorites" list. There are so many other less useful features being added all the time. Why is this one being neglected?

There was once a third-party fix using javascript that actually worked for a time, but it no longer works for me. Here it is: http://tech.lds.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... bec#p75696

It seems odd that this forum topic has been kicked around for over 2.5 years, and we STILL don't have a way to move a bookmark from one chapter to another. Come on people.

This is not a work around as much as it is a statement of the fact that the bookmark does not work as expected. We are aware of that, it is just not acceptable.

PamelaBonta wrote:Go to LDS.org. Click on Sign IN at the top right. From the drop down men choose Notes. Then sign in. When your own personal Notes page appears, look at the column on the left hand side. One of the option should be Types. (If it is not expanded already, click on it.) Click on Bookmarks. The most recent item you Bookmarked should be on top.

While they both have the same name, Bookmarks work differently online and in the apps. The bookmarks in apps work like a bookmark you put in a paper book - they mark the last thing you read. Bookmarks online mark favourite things you want to go back to again and again - much like Pinterest.

I just tried this from chrome on windows 7 and it did not work. It created another bookmark with the same name. Consider yourself lucky.

jckocherhans wrote:My bookmark updates when I create a new one using the same name of the one I want to update as described by esfaulkner7