Member
Our stake received 4 additional units this past Sunday (a nearby district was dissolved). When are those kinds of changes typically reflected on the website directory, tools, etc?
Stake boundary changes - reflected when?
Member
Each ward/branch that changed to a different parent unit (stake/district) needs to change the setup in their MLS Software to reflect their new parent unit, and then do a "send membership records to stake". There may be other actions required on the Stake MLS system.
Church Employee
The other part of it is that the changes have to get made in CDOL. I believe there is some paperwork that gets sent back in saying that the changes were made.
Senior Member
I don't know who did the paperwork, but officially a boundary alignment document is sent to the 1st Presidency for approval. Once approved, a letter is sent to the Stake President officially noting the effective date. If the stake/district initiated the change and gave an effective date, then the boundary team in SLC starts changing once that date has past. It took about 1 week to create a new unit in the online tools (this was the old LUWS). It took 3-5 days for the boundaries to all change in the online map.
If the Church initiated this, then things are a bit different. We had a name change for a singles branch, that was pushed out through the church, and we had to report back to the boundary team when we did the sustaining in the unit, that was their trigger to make the changes officially in the online tools. It seems that a dissolve would be done by the church, and the Stake Clerk would want to talk to the boundary team and communicate when the changes were sustained by the membership of the Stake.
If the Church initiated this, then things are a bit different. We had a name change for a singles branch, that was pushed out through the church, and we had to report back to the boundary team when we did the sustaining in the unit, that was their trigger to make the changes officially in the online tools. It seems that a dissolve would be done by the church, and the Stake Clerk would want to talk to the boundary team and communicate when the changes were sustained by the membership of the Stake.
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Senior Member
Once the ward has been announced it takes about 1-2 weeks for the unit to be properly setup in all the church systems. Just a note - you will have to update the stake information manually in MLS. See this thread for more about that. This thread also discusses the timeline for new units.
Community Moderators
In this case, there was probably a district or stake conference involved. The administrative changes will begin when the presiding authority at that conference returns the paperwork to Church headquarters informing them that the change has actually taken place.crislapi wrote:Once the ward has been announced it takes about 1-2 weeks for the unit to be properly setup in all the church systems.
Or, if there was not a conference, the same paperwork still needs to get from either the stake or mission president to inform headquarters to actively move forward with the publically visible administrative part of the change.
Member
Yes, there was a conference involved in this case. So I guess we just wait for the Area Seventy to submit the paperwork.
Senior Member
Talk to your stake clerk and have him call the boundary team he can report back when the changes were sustained
“A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom.”
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Community Moderators
Yes, the Area Seventy will be the one whose paperwork will trigger the change. And judging from your location, he hopefully mailed everything to Church headquarters last Monday or Tuesday. You may start seeing indications of the change this week.jglanfield wrote:Yes, there was a conference involved in this case. So I guess we just wait for the Area Seventy to submit the paperwork.