ward bulletins covers and christmas cards

We used to get our ward bulletins and christmas cards from a company in Provo or Orem and they are no longer in business. Does anyone know where to purchase them and the contact info?

I Used Joseph Lyons in Utah
The website is still there...
http://www.josephlyon.com

When we lived in Tennessee, our ward's Primary Presidency had each child draw a gospel related picture on plain white paper. They wrote their names on it. Those became the cover art for the ward bulletins for the next several years. No cost. Family involvement. What's not to love?

We usually use an appropriate Christmas-theme paper for a Bishop's message that we mail out instead of cards.

I like to download a variety of temple photos from the church web site. Free and simple. And most of them look just fine when duplicated on the monochrome copier.

mrrad wrote:I like to download a variety of temple photos from the church web site.

That's fine as long as it's the church/Intellectual Reserve that holds the copyright to the photo. Otherwise, it may violate whatever use agreement the church may have with the copyright owner.

I took a quick look at the gallery, and wasn't able to find any indication as to who the owner(s) are.

RussellHltn wrote:That's fine as long as it's the church/Intellectual Reserve that holds the copyright to the photo. Otherwise, it may violate whatever use agreement the church may have with the copyright owner.

I took a quick look at the gallery, and wasn't able to find any indication as to who the owner(s) are.

If you look at the lds.org Terms of Use, it states:

All material found at this site (including visuals, text, icons, displays, databases, media, and general information), is owned or licensed by us. You may view, download, and print material from this site only for your personal, noncommercial use unless otherwise indicated.

So, does that mean it's OK to use any visuals found there for ward programs (unless noted)?

I guess that depends on if that comma between "personal" and "noncommercial" means "and" or "or". But we're drifting into legal discussion.

The only way I know of to settle it definitively is to contact Intellectual Reserve.

RussellHltn wrote:But we're drifting into legal discussion.

You bring up an interesting point, however. Where is the "written permission" contained on the church web site which allows someone to use recordings or transcriptions of General Conference in their church lessons or Sacrament Meeting talks? The disclaimer at the beginning of the broadcast is very air-tight about use of the broadcast, since it doesn't even allow "personal" use as opposed to other uses.

mrrad wrote:You bring up an interesting point, however. Where is the "written permission" contained on the church web site which allows someone to use recordings or transcriptions of General Conference in their church lessons or Sacrament Meeting talks? The disclaimer at the beginning of the broadcast is very air-tight about use of the broadcast, since it doesn't even allow "personal" use as opposed to other uses.

But the disclaimer at the beginning of the broadcast applies only to the broadcast. As soon as it gets split up and posted on lds.org in different formats and sections, that disclaimer no longer applies, but the site's terms of use will govern the usage.

That still leaves open the question of what "personal use" means, but I have zero concerns that any usage of recordings or transcriptions that is clearly within the scope of our Church assignments will lead to any legal action from Intellectual Reserve.

aebrown wrote:...but I have zero concerns that any usage of recordings or transcriptions that is clearly within the scope of our Church assignments will lead to any legal action from Intellectual Reserve.

And that's exactly my point. But whether we're talking about General Conference or church-produced temple photos we're talking about the same terms of use.

aebrown wrote:I have zero concerns that any usage of recordings or transcriptions that is clearly within the scope of our Church assignments will lead to any legal action from Intellectual Reserve.

Assuming that IR is the copyright owner, I agree. In the case of General Conference, we can be sure about the owner.

But we still don't know who owns the rights to the temple photos. IR may only be a licensee.

It seems unlikely that the church doesn't have full control of those photos. If that were the case then I doubt there would be so many share options under each picture.

farwest wrote:We used to get our ward bulletins and christmas cards from a company in Provo or Orem and they are no longer in business. Does anyone know where to purchase them and the contact info?

Reply 5 years too late probably but www.ldsbookstore.com. I believe they are located in Provo

Gary