Android 3.0 development?

I couldn't find anything on the new Android 3.0. I know that it has just come out, but i was looking to see if development has started on it.

3.0 is tablet-centric and is only on the Xoom at the moment, so my assumption is that it's not really a top priority of volunteer contributors to the project right now.

Most contributors to opensource projects are doing things that they are personally invested in - so until a large number of volunteers buy Xooms or other 3.0 devices I don't think you will see a lot of attention paid to the 3.0 sdk. (I may be wrong - and I'm speaking only for myself... but I'm not going to spend my free time developing for a device in an emulator only... I'd rather spend my time tweaking things that I can directly use on my own devices)

We plan to start looking into issues we have in the 3.0 version of android in an emulator soon. If you have a device you could help us test on please contact me directly.

Asiel

BrumfieldAD wrote:We plan to start looking into issues we have in the 3.0 version of android in an emulator soon. If you have a device you could help us test on please contact me directly.

Asiel

Yes, I do have a xoom and would love not to only do testing but to also help in development. I am just finishing up my degree in computer science engineering and want to start developing for android specifically the tablets.

Have seen reports about the tablets and the Xoom and there was some press out there that that one was the first of a number of Android-based tablets to come out this year. Those Android 3.0 (although there are a few already out with Android 2.2.1 running on them) tablets will probably begin showing up on the market more towards the summer of this year.

jallmitch wrote:Yes, I do have a xoom and would love not to only do testing but to also help in development. I am just finishing up my degree in computer science engineering and want to start developing for android specifically the tablets.

If you would like to contribute to developing LDS Tools or Gospel Library (which ever you are interested in), please fill out the talent profile (link at top of page) and request to contribute to LDS Tools for Android. Once that is done, we will get a note that you would like to contribute and we can get you started.

jasonhyer wrote:If you would like to contribute to developing LDS Tools or Gospel Library (which ever you are interested in), please fill out the talent profile (link at top of page) and request to contribute to LDS Tools for Android. Once that is done, we will get a note that you would like to contribute and we can get you started.

My profile shows that I have been added to that group... and I have access to the page that has the following directories

branch
tags
trunk

Jesse

I'm no expert on programming but I would be happy to help test gospel library/lds tools on Android 3.0, I have a Motorola Xoom.
Mike

I, like mlnair also own a xoom, and would like to help test gospel library and/or lds tools on Android 3.0. I have no prior programming experience.
Ethan

solidlikeplato wrote:I, like mlnair also own a xoom, and would like to help test gospel library and/or lds tools on Android 3.0. I have no prior programming experience.
Ethan

Dying to have Gospel Library for Xoom...HELP!
Love it on my Droid X....

I have been running Android 3.0 Honeycomb on a $249 Nook Color for about a month now. I would really like to have the scriptures and other Church material on this device. (I am using a Dell Streak 5 now with the Gospel Library on it - but I want to use the larger 7" screen) I can download the Gospel Library from the Android Market and when I open the application it downloads the content to my SD card (which I can verify with Astro). But as others have reported, when I try to view a particular chapter with verses nothing is there. I am not a programmer, but it seems to me if I can see the entire outline of the scriptures when I open the app and I can see all of the content on my SD card it wouldn't take much of a fix to point the app to the content. Anyway - my 2 cents. I would be willing to beta test whatever gets done by whoever. I have beta tested other pieces of software in the past.

For what it may help, as mentioned, GL works all the way up to the point that you look at the actual scripture content. However, one additional note is that when doing a search, you CAN see the scriptural content along with the references in the search results. However, when you select any reference, the screen is again blank on the actual text of the scripture.

It seems like a pretty minor change to display the text, maybe a matter of the screen formatting... I'm also happy to test as needed.

We also have two Nook Colors in our family. They were modded to boot FroYo from microSD and Gospel Library were their number one use.

We made the upgrade to Honeycomb last week (MUCH better interface! especially solving the problem of no "back" button on the Nook) and installed all the apps. But didn't realize the Gospel Library app wasn't actually working until Sunday morning

We would be happy to be beta-testers for the app if needed. Otherwise, it's back to FroYo until then

The problem with viewing some items has been reported on other devices as well, not just the Nook or some of the others mentioned in this thread. In fact, it's the same Adobe formatting error I've heard about elsewhere on LDS Tech.

Android 3.0 has better Flash support based on news reports about the Xoom and also other as yet unnamed devices planned for later this year that will use it.

I don't believe that the problem that Android 3.0 devices are seeing, is flash related. First, I don't see flash being used in the GLA code. Second, after installing Flash 10.2 the same problem persists. There is a difference between Android 2.X and Android 3.X that is causing the text to not be displayed.

I was looking into the problem tonight, and it appears to be the script tag in the html for the ScriptureViewActivity. I made a change locally and I am able to see the content now. There are other issues formatting the activities for tablets, but nothing that prevents using the app.

Kevin,
Is it possible for you to share with us step-by-step what you did to be able to see the content? I would certainly like to try to do the same on my device.

Sounds promising. Let us know how your progress is going. Right now I am using Reveal on my rooted Nook Color w/Honeycomb. I would like to get Library running in order to compare the two.

I made changes to the v1 source and rebuilt the app to get it to work. If you know how to build from source I can easily tell you what to change. I don't know if it is OK to share the app I built. I would be happy to share what I have if it is OK.

kevin.harris wrote:I made changes to the v1 source and rebuilt the app to get it to work. If you know how to build from source I can easily tell you what to change. I don't know if it is OK to share the app I built. I would be happy to share what I have if it is OK.

I think as long as you are not charging money, it would be fine. The Church uses volunteers to assist with the coding and makes its content available for no cost. I'd love to get the app, even just as a stopgap until the official update comes out. How would you suggest file transfer? (e-mail, otherwise?)

Thanks!

marcekb wrote:I think as long as you are not charging money, it would be fine.

A common claim and frequently incorrect. I'd carefully read over everything involved including the developer agreement.

RussellHltn wrote:A common claim and frequently incorrect. I'd carefully read over everything involved including the developer agreement.

True on both accounts, and probably not freely distributable in this case as I think about it. Sure would be nice to get a working copy though. Maybe the community administrator could put a plug in for getting this partial fix implemented until a broader release comes out?

Nice find. I wonder why Android 3.0 doesn't accept the tag the way it is written. I changed the tag as well and it seems to make everything visible on the verse level.

jallmitch wrote:Nice find. I wonder why Android 3.0 doesn't accept the tag the way it is written. I changed the tag as well and it seems to make everything visible on the verse level.

Okay, how hard is it to get access to the source? This is ridiculous that the developers here can fix it, but the rest of us have to suffer. I can code. What's it take to get developer access to the code?

marcekb wrote:Maybe the community administrator could put a plug in for getting this partial fix implemented until a broader release comes out?

I pinged the lead, he indicated that they're almost out with the next version which does fix the issue.

RussellHltn wrote:I pinged the lead, he indicated that they're almost out with the next version which does fix the issue.

Very kind of you. Thanks much for doing this!

We have a beta version that displays the text on honeycomb devices now! If you'd like to install it please be aware of a few things.

-This is beta and will change.
-You will probably lose any annotations you make in this version.
-There is no support for migration between pre release versions.
-You will have to manually delete all your content when you install another beta or the final release.

If you are comfortable with these caveats then please download and give us feedback with any problems you find.

1. Manually delete any versions you have previously installed including the one currently available in the market.
2. Connect your device to a computer or use a file browser application and manually delete the Gospel-Library folder on the root of the filesystem (for xoom) or /mnt/sdcard/gospel-library for other devices.
3. Now you can download the apk here and install it.

Please report issues to our project Jira.

Thanks!

awesome! so far so good. content is now visible. Thank you!

BrumfieldAD wrote:We have a beta version that displays the text on honeycomb devices now! If you'd like to install it please be aware of a few things.

-This is beta and will change.
-You will probably lose any annotations you make in this version.
-There is no support for migration between pre release versions.
-You will have to manually delete all your content when you install another beta or the final release.

If you are comfortable with these caveats then please download and give us feedback with any problems you find.

1. Manually delete any versions you have previously installed including the one currently available in the market.
2. Connect your device to a computer or use a file browser application and manually delete the Gospel-Library folder on the root of the filesystem (for xoom) or /mnt/sdcard/gospel-library for other devices.
3. Now you can download the apk here and install it.

Please report issues to our project Jira.

Thanks!

Looks better than the first one and I like that you can choose what you want to download and install. I have seen one issue so far, but can't get to the Jira site - bad credentials.

You should be able to use the same LDS Account credentials you use to post to this forum. You do need to agree to the contributor agreement which could be the issue you are seeing.

Thank you very much for making the beta available! It's wonderful to it, whatever little bugs there are.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I get a policy violation when I try to use Jira. Signed in fine. Profile and agreement setup fine. Not sure what else I need to do to get access to the project in Jira to report bugs...but happy to do it. If anyone can let me know, I'd appreciate it.

Thank you for releasing the beta. I downloaded it and installed it on my Nook Color running Honeycomb this morning. I can finally see all of the content. So far so good. If I find any issues I will let you know.

I got my Xoom tonight. I have played with the xoom at bestbuy in orem and the verizon store in spanish fork. Both had the Gospel Library on them and both would load but no scriptures as described earlier. I have download the patch on the page 3 and now It just force closes. Message is "The Application Gospel Library (process org.lds.ldssa) has stopped unexpectedly. Please Try again."

I have rebooted and would be happy to be a tester for the church on this.

My Xoom is WiFi only, where as the others were 3G Android 3.0.1

BrumfieldAD wrote:We have a beta version that displays the text on honeycomb devices now! If you'd like to install it please be aware of a few things.

-This is beta and will change.
-You will probably lose any annotations you make in this version.
-There is no support for migration between pre release versions.
-You will have to manually delete all your content when you install another beta or the final release.

If you are comfortable with these caveats then please download and give us feedback with any problems you find.

1. Manually delete any versions you have previously installed including the one currently available in the market.
2. Connect your device to a computer or use a file browser application and manually delete the Gospel-Library folder on the root of the filesystem (for xoom) or /mnt/sdcard/gospel-library for other devices.
3. Now you can download the apk here and install it.

Please report issues to our project Jira.

Thanks!

So just to be clear, if I had already installed Gospel Library from the market, I need to root my device in order to delete the Gospel-Library folder?

I don't think that is correct, you shouldn't have to root to do anything. You just need a file explorer to find any files it may have left around. So... scalicommand free app. gives you full view of your file tree.

daveteasdale wrote:I don't think that is correct, you shouldn't have to root to do anything. You just need a file explorer to find any files it may have left around. So... scalicommand free app. gives you full view of your file tree.

Ahhh thanks! 1 day newbie to Android here...I'll learn! I got it working! Looks great

Wait you got it working on a wifi xoom? or was it a 3g?

I got the beta installed. Working good so far. Where should we post suggestions?

Thanks for the Beta. It looks to be working fine. I have a xoom 3g and an extensive background in programming. If you need any help testing this let me know. I would love to help.

As for the instructions of removing. All I did to get mine to work was:
1. Go to the market
2. press the "my Apps" at the top right
3. Find gospel Library and uninstall
4. Click the beta link and install

Afterwords mine worked fine. no rooting or deleting files. (Not sure this will work for you, but it is the steps I took and it works for me.)

[font=&quot]I have downloaded a beta version of Gospel Library for Android (beta version 2.0) and installed in on an Android 2.2 OS device (HTC Evo). I have two questions

1. While one can choose content to download, there does not seem to be a mechanism to uninstall content -- I assume that will be addressed when the actual version 2.0 is released?

2. The content manager appears to allow a selection of language for the content - English, German & Spanish. However, when I select German and then select Download, nothing seems to happen. Does that meant the German content is not actually out on the server?

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This is for android 3.0 honeycomb. 2.2 should run the marketplace app no problem.

kjpearce wrote:[font=&quot]I have downloaded a beta version of Gospel Library for Android (beta version 2.0) and installed in on an Android 2.2 OS device (HTC Evo). I have two questions

1. While one can choose content to download, there does not seem to be a mechanism to uninstall content -- I assume that will be addressed when the actual version 2.0 is released?

2. The content manager appears to allow a selection of language for the content - English, German & Spanish. However, when I select German and then select Download, nothing seems to happen. Does that meant the German content is not actually out on the server?

[/font]

We were hoping that people might recognize the standard properties selection icon on the right side (see the arrow inside the circle). This is a standard on iPhone and I have seen it a few times on Android applications. When you tap on that it displays a dialog that allows you to delete the content.

I am also working on fixing the content services to include all of the content including file sizes and descriptions.

I would love to hear more comments.

Nathan Dickamore
Senior Software Engineer for Android Applications
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

I'm still struggling to get it to work. I downloaded the market app. Followed the instructions, used Astro file explorer to rifle around both the root and the other path. I didn't find any lingering folders. So I took a shot installing from the link, with no success. Then did a factory reset and tried to install from the download link. I am still getting that same error 'The application Gospel Library (proces....) has stopped unexpectedly. Any ideas?
Thanks-

laurakboyd wrote:I'm still struggling to get it to work. I downloaded the market app. Followed the instructions, used Astro file explorer to rifle around both the root and the other path. I didn't find any lingering folders. So I took a shot installing from the link, with no success. Then did a factory reset and tried to install from the download link. I am still getting that same error 'The application Gospel Library (proces....) has stopped unexpectedly. Any ideas?
Thanks-

I'm having the same issue with my wifi Xoom. I installed the beta app without ever installing the version from the market.
I've heard of other apps that work fine on 3g+wifi models but only force close on wifi only models.

I am having the same problem with my wifi only Xoom. I can install the beta just fine but get a force close immediately after clicking on the icon. I also use a few different file managers to look for the folder to delete and could not find it anywhere.

I still cannot get it to install on my WIFI Xoom. Also, when I go and look for the files I cannot find them. It creates the icon, but it doesn't appear to install any files. I would be happy to test any beta's out.

Oh, I wanted to add, as a stopgap until the official church one works, Reveal have updated their app to work on the wifi Xoom. Install that, then eBook download in the app and get all your scriptures. The interface is horrible compared to the church one.

Please try running this build on the wifi only Xoom and report back if you have success. With the same caveats as my last post.

-This is beta and will change.
-You will probably lose any annotations you make in this version.
-There is no support for migration between pre release versions.
-You will have to manually delete all your content when you install another beta or the final release.

If you are comfortable with these caveats then please download and give us feedback with any problems you find.

1. Manually delete any versions you have previously installed including the one currently available in the market.
2. Connect your device to a computer or use a file browser application and manually delete the Gospel-Library folder on the root of the filesystem (for xoom) or /mnt/sdcard/gospel-library for other devices.
3. Now you can download the apk here and install it.

Please report issues to our project Jira.

Works for me on my WiFi only xoom

Working for me on my Nook Color running Honeycomb.

Oh yes, just in time for conference, it works, thank you for all your hard work on this, its great.

I know the post said to log issues in JIRA, but I don't have permissions. So i'm posing it here. Many of the pages come up with only the title showing. For instance, if I tap through to Old Testament > Genesis, the page just shows "Genesis" and nothing else.

I have a Motorola Xoom WiFi-Only.

Is this a known issue, or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the info Tim. This was a problem with recent changes we made to the content the last build I posted was using. To file issues in Jira make sure you have signed the contributor agreement and also signed up for the Gospel Library Android project. If you are still not able to access Jira please let me know.

Here is a new build that should be one of the last beta builds before final release. The same caveats apply as stated in my previous posts.

Please report any problems you find in Jira.

Jira Access:
As far as I can tell, I have signed the Contributed Agreement and signed up for Gospel Library Android Project. However, whenever I attempt to select a link to Jira I get an error dialog box to the effect:
Permission Violation

It seems that you have tried to perform an operation which you are not permitted to perform.
If you think this message is wrong, please consult your administrators about getting the necessary permissions.


Content Access:
Last night something seemed to have changed about accessing content. The Manage Library screen came up and a dialog box opened about updating the Content Inventory[font=&quot]. After that, I was a little bit surprised that some of the content which was available for download earlier (even earlier this week) seems to be no longer available, e.g., Children’s Songbook, Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine Teacher’s Manual, Preach My Gospel, and all of the Teachings of the Presidents of the Church.[/font]

timschreiber wrote:I know the post said to log issues in JIRA, but I don't have permissions. So i'm posing it here. Many of the pages come up with only the title showing. For instance, if I tap through to Old Testament > Genesis, the page just shows "Genesis" and nothing else.

I have a Motorola Xoom WiFi-Only.

Is this a known issue, or am I doing something wrong?

This is a known issue with the current production version. The beta versions should display content on the Xoom. Please verify the version you are using by going to Menu / About. If you are using 1.2 it is a known issue.

This beta for HC is great! Thanks guys.

One request i would like to submit, though...it would be great to have the standard works as they appear in print when the honeycomb tablet is in landscape mode. I realize it is sort of a ridiculous request, but it would be great to have two columns per "page," as well as function a Footnotes.

Is this currently being considered?

Also, as this is first post on these boards, I would like to say that it is great to see the Church actively engaged in new technology. Tablet technology has so much to offer, especially for the spreading of the gospel, so good work guys, and good luck on whatever does next!

thmcdonald1 wrote:This beta for HC is great! Thanks guys.

One request i would like to submit, though...it would be great to have the standard works as they appear in print when the honeycomb tablet is in landscape mode. I realize it is sort of a ridiculous request, but it would be great to have two columns per "page," as well as function a Footnotes.

Is this currently being considered?

This is not on our current roadmap for development. I will submit it for consideration to our development team as it might be possible with more space on a tablet.

jasonhyer wrote:This is a known issue with the current production version. The beta versions should display content on the Xoom. Please verify the version you are using by going to Menu / About. If you are using 1.2 it is a known issue.

It was whichever version was posted on page 5 of this thread. I have since uninstalled Gospel Library pending a more stable build.

BrumfieldAD wrote:Thanks for the info Tim. This was a problem with recent changes we made to the content the last build I posted was using. To file issues in Jira make sure you have signed the contributor agreement and also signed up for the Gospel Library Android project. If you are still not able to access Jira please let me know.

Here is a new build that should be one of the last beta builds before final release. The same caveats apply as stated in my previous posts.

Please report any problems you find in Jira.

I signed the contributor agreement and have joined the project as an observer, but I still can't log into JIRA without a permissions violation.

KJ & Tim- I updated both of your permissions so you should be able to file issues in Jira. PM me if you are still having trouble.

The last updated build I posted should work on the wifi only xoom.

Even though I am part of this project and have signed the contributors agreement, I still do not have access to the JIRA site. In fact I receive the same message as KJ & Tim. So here is one of the problems that I am seeing: XOOM 3.0.1 / 3G
1. When I downloaded April 2011 conference - it not only downloaded the entire conference but also everything that I had previous downloaded.
2. Under General Conference / April 2011 (or the two previous, could be more) with all the talks listed, scrolling down or up will cause lines to black out.

Regards,
Jesse

I thought that Jesse's first statement was interesting:

1. When I downloaded April 2011 conference - it not only downloaded the entire conference but also everything that I had previous downloaded.

I thought that it was interesting because I had not heretofore seen that the April 2011 conference was available under General Conference. So, I opened Gospel Library and lo and behold it was not available. So, I went to the menu option Refresh Content and I refreshed the content only to have Gospel Library display a message that "The catalog is already up to date." I guess the question I have is: Is it available or not?

Kent

PS I occasionally see the lines blacking phenomenon mentioned by Jesse and not just in conference session downloads. Also, in the chapter listings for various manuals -- Gospel Principles, Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine, etc. It usually goes away after a second scroll. I am running 2.0-SNAPSHOT-20110407-02.apk


PPS I can access Jira now

kjpearce wrote:I guess the question I have is: Is it available or not?

I downloaded it on the Thursday after GC. I didn't have to do a refresh. When I selected GC it had "2011 April" with a gray label. Now of course it is white.

It shouldn't matter if you have a Wi-fi only or 3G on that, but I have the 3g XOOM.

I have the wi-fi only version of the zoom (posting from it now). I cannot even get Gospel Library to load. Should I be downloading a different version than what is in the app store?

jallmitch wrote:My profile shows that I have been added to that group... and I have access to the page that has the following directories

branch
tags
trunk

Jesse

I have joined the Android gospel library but can't figure out how to join as Test, instead of observer, any hints?
I have a 3.0 Xoom and a 2.2 htc evo shift and can test. I have downloaded gospel-library-2.0-SNAPSHOT-20110323.apk and gospel-library-2.0-SNAPSHOPT-20110403.apk, one linked from the forum and one linked from the wiki, but want to make sure I have the most current before I start entering Jira issues. What is the best way to get the most current 2.0? (or would you prefer testing 2.1?)

This afternoon we released Gospel Library for Android 2.0. It is compatible with Android 3.0 so will now work on the Motorlola Xoom. You can download it on the Android Market and there will shortly be a link on the Gospel Library for Android wiki page for those that don't have access to the market.

Please download it and post your feedback here on the forum, good and bad.

Thanks for your patience while we worked on this major update to the application.

Yeah! It is working great for me so far. I had been using Reveal, but now Gospel Library seems to have everything I need.

I'm running the latest GL version from the marketplace on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v running Honeycomb. All is working well. Keep up the great work. I'm happy to test anything if needed.
PB.