Serving out of Unit - how to see both units

I am serving in a student ward bishopric outside of my home unit. In the new stake and ward websites, how do I switch from viewing my home stake and ward info to that of the stake and ward where I am serving? (And back again?)

Unless something has changed, I don't think you can. The new directory/calendar is still under development.

I haven't checked with him lately, but the 2nd Counselor of the bishopric in our stake YSA ward did have access to both his home ward and the YSA ward as well when we had him register for lds.org. But maybe it is a lot easier in his case, since it is still within the same stake.

sghall wrote:I haven't checked with him lately, but the 2nd Counselor of the bishopric in our stake YSA ward did have access to both his home ward and the YSA ward as well when we had him register for lds.org. But maybe it is a lot easier in his case, since it is still within the same stake.

Every member can see all the units in his or her stake in the classic stake and ward websites and in the new directory. The challenge for members who serve in another stake with the new directory is that they can't see he ward they serving in (but I hear that this capability is under development).

When my records were mistakenly transferred to a YSA ward a couple of weeks ago, my first indicator that something had happened was the new directory. When I logged on, I could choose to look at /either/ the YSA ward /or/ my family ward's directory - each of those units are in different stakes. Instead of simple text where the stake name normally is, there was another drop down (as for the ward drop down) so that I could switch between the two stakes.

The mistake with my records has since been cleared up and I only see my family ward's info, but I was excited to see that the mechanisms are in place for viewing information in more than one stake. So, this feature is definitely in development. I don't know when everyone will get to see these improvements, but it's exciting.

I serve in a YSA ward outside my home stake also. I have been able to see both my home ward and stake, and the ward and stake of the YSA ward for several months now. (I have been added to MLS as an out of unit member of the YSA ward.)

Our ward Senior Couple Missionaries in our YSA ward who are from another stake cannot see the YSA ward website and do not show up in the YSA directory. Bishopric members can see both their home and YSA sites.

But none of the Bishopric Members or missionaries show up in the directory as members unless I list leaders at the top of the directory then they are there.
They did under classic but not under the new version.

HELP

The administrator of your stake web site can take care of this. After the Couple Missionaries are added to your YSA MSL as out of unit members, the stake administrator can go to lds.org/tools/classic. He can then go to the stake home page where he selects the Administrator Options tab on the bottom left. A new window should open with a green panel on the left. Second from the bottom is Non-resident Members. He will need the members record number and their confirmation date. You enter this information in, select the YSA ward they are assigned to and click that this is all approved by the stake president. Once you click enter the couple missionary will find that their default ward when accessing the directory from lds.org is now their YSA ward.

Allan_F wrote:The administrator of your stake web site can take care of this. After the Couple Missionaries are added to your YSA MSL as out of unit members, the stake administrator can go to lds.org/tools/classic. He can then go to the stake home page where he selects the Administrator Options tab on the bottom left. A new window should open with a green panel on the left. Second from the bottom is Non-resident Members. He will need the members record number and their confirmation date. You enter this information in, select the YSA ward they are assigned to and click that this is all approved by the stake president. Once you click enter the couple missionary will find that their default ward when accessing the directory from lds.org is now their YSA ward.

That works for Classic, but not for "new".

It worked for me. My YSA ward is now my default ward in both the "new" and classic versions. It has also worked for the other out of unit members in our stake that have received this update.

Allan_F wrote:It worked for me. My YSA ward is now my default ward in both the "new" and classic versions. It has also worked for the other out of unit members in our stake that have received this update.

But the action you took on the Classic site with Non-resident Members only affected the Classic site. The new site works the way it does because of the Out of Unit membership records in MLS, not because of anything you did on the Classic site.

Now that is strange. What you are saying only makes sense as to how it should work. However, we still have many out of unit members who are defaulting to their home ward on the new site. When I add them to the non-resident portion on the old site, they are able to access the YSA info. This is what several people at the MSL hot line told me I to do.

I talked to MLS support and had a clarification to this issue. If the out of unit member is serving in a ward, such as bishop counselor, the member will be able to view the new ward directory as soon as the ward clerk assigns him as an out of unit member to that ward. For stake officers this doesn't work as they are assigned by the stake and not a ward. In order for stake officers in a YSA stake to see the YSA stake directory, you still need to go to the classic site and assign them as a non-resident member. That then gives the stake officer the capability to access the YSA stake new site also. This capability will be lost when the classic site is closed. I hope they come up with a way for the Stake President to view the YSA stake info.

Allan_F wrote:In order for stake officers in a YSA stake to see the YSA stake directory, you still need to go to the classic site and assign them as a non-resident member. That then gives the stake officer the capability to access the YSA stake new site also.

Interesting. That's the first time I can think of anything on the old site affecting anything "new". Thanks for the follow-up.

RussellHltn wrote:Interesting. That's the first time I can think of anything on the old site affecting anything "new". Thanks for the follow-up.

It's an interesting theory, but in this post a Church developer explains how there cannot be such a connection.

we have a senior Missionary couple from out of our Stake (Ut home ward) now called to be Branch President. with updates in MLS - Can I add him at Stake level & it will populate to Branch? & he should be able to log on to Stake Calendar, etc.... rw

Miknmaur wrote:Our ward Senior Couple Missionaries in our YSA ward who are from another stake cannot see the YSA ward website and do not show up in the YSA directory. Bishopric members can see both their home and YSA sites.

But none of the Bishopric Members or missionaries show up in the directory as members unless I list leaders at the top of the directory then they are there.
They did under classic but not under the new version.

HELP

rwood90 wrote:we have a senior Missionary couple from out of our Stake (Ut home ward) now called to be Branch President. with updates in MLS - Can I add him at Stake level & it will populate to Branch? & he should be able to log on to Stake Calendar, etc.... rw

Bishops and branch presidents are entered in stake MLS using a Leader and Unit Change Request (LUCR). Once that has been processed by CHQ, he should appear in CDOL, and also in the Directory. Within a day or so after that, he should have access rights to websites such as the Directory and Calendar by virtue of his calling.

rwood90 wrote:we have a senior Missionary couple from out of our Stake (Ut home ward) now called to be Branch President. with updates in MLS - Can I add him at Stake level & it will populate to Branch? & he should be able to log on to Stake Calendar, etc.... rw

It should also go down to the Branch MLS, or the Branch can also add him into their MLS (it won't get send up to CDOL and the other online systems. The stake MLS is the correct place for that as aebrown described).

I have two sets of seniors serving in our YSA ward that are out of unit and out of stake. Both have out of unit memberships in the ward.
One of the men has access to both his home ward and stake and our stake where he is serving. The other does not.
I cannot see any settings that would be different?

Miknmaur wrote:I have two sets of seniors serving in our YSA ward that are out of unit and out of stake. Both have out of unit memberships in the ward. One of the men has access to both his home ward and stake and our stake where he is serving. The other does not.
I cannot see any settings that would be different?

What callings do they have in the served ward/stake? Is it a standardized calling in MLS? Does it show up properly in the CDOL?

You may have figured it out. They serve as missionaries.
The one who can log into the ward is showing as Missionary - Ward. The one who cannot is listed as Senior Missionary.
So maybe if I change the Senior Missionary (custom calling) to Missionary - Ward they will get access?

Is CDOL only available on MLS or is what I am seeing on LDS.org the same as CDOL?

Miknmaur wrote:So maybe if I change the Senior Missionary (custom calling) to Missionary - Ward they will get access?

Probably. Note that custom callings carry no rights whatsoever. So if the other missionary is getting access due to the calling, then that should fix it.

Miknmaur wrote:Is CDOL only available on MLS or is what I am seeing on LDS.org the same as CDOL?

The CDOL can be found at http://cdol.lds.org. Since MLS syncs with CDOL, and it's the source of much of the information for other sites, it's the starting point for troubleshooting. Note that once you fix it and do a send/receive, it will still take about a day for the directory site to update it's rights.

I went to CDOL and it is blank. Only the macro church info (stakes by country, etc.) is there.

It should be search-able/expandable to find your unit.

I changed the missionary couple to a standard calling, Missionary Ward/Branch and now they don't show up in CDOL at all. Yes I have done several send/receives.