Can a Stake opt out of new calendar?

Is there any way to opt out of the new calendar and use the old one until the new one is ready for prime time?

We've had a lot of confusion with people not being able to get to the right calendars and such.

Would make life a tad easier around here.

The only thing I can think of is to place a repeating event on the calendar you don't use letting everyone know to use the other one

skiptaylor wrote:Is there any way to opt out of the new calendar and use the old one until the new one is ready for prime time?

Seems like it should be easy. Just delete all the calendars. If there's no data, they'll look elsewhere.

Obviously you could stay as you are until the old one, "classic LUWS," goes away, which I think the help files now say will be near the end of 2011. The question then arises, do you mandate each ward stay with "classic" for their own ward use? (Because the word is out that it is available.) If you just don't make any new stake calendars on the new system, you're not really opting out, your just not opting in....

Since the default calendar for those entering via lds.org is the new one, it gives the impression that our calendars are all blank (far from it). Perhaps a repeating entry will be the only way... now to figure out how to propagate that through all calendars. Somehow I feel I've been asked to staple jello to a tree..

skiptaylor wrote:now to figure out how to propagate that through all calendars.

For that I'd suggest deleting all but one calendar.

skiptaylor wrote:Somehow I feel I've been asked to staple jello to a tree..

If you add enough carrots and stick with green, it attaches easier.

In our units, the stake has moved slow, along with several wards, but a few wards have marched forward full steam. The wards that have done that don't seem to mind as it keeps the focus on the ward level. I imagine that the wards will ultimately force the stake to catch up as members forget to check the "classic" site.

tortdog wrote:In our units, the stake has moved slow, along with several wards, but a few wards have marched forward full steam. The wards that have done that don't seem to mind as it keeps the focus on the ward level. I imagine that the wards will ultimately force the stake to catch up as members forget to check the "classic" site.

I can see how that might happen, but still, there has to be a notion of the "official" calendar, particularly for resource scheduling. You can't have a ward schedule one building with the new site and the stake schedule that same building with the classic site. So firm decisions do have to get made with clear communication.

aebrown wrote:You can't have a ward schedule one building with the new site and the stake schedule that same building with the classic site.

Absolutely true in that case. Our SPcy is currently grappling with what assignment to give the person who traditionally scheduled the stake center's resources with the new system, which is one reason the stake is holding back. It knows how the old one works, but even the most tech savvy SP member is not certain he likes how the new system assigns rights and responsibilities. He was discussing the issue with me in the course of setting up our ward's resources at a ward building, but I did not understand his concern.

If the wards that have moved forward start losing track of the stake events, I assume that we will start to get some pull back from the stake in some form.

Is there any real training in place for the new calendar system? I'm not quite sure what to do with it. I can only imagine what less experienced users will experience. It appears I'm stuck at my Ward level yet I'm an Admin but I can't do anything it appears but create calendars. The existing ones I'm apparently not authorized for. On the old system, I'm the Stake Administrator. Guess that doesn't count in this new thing.

*sigh* Too much change, way too fast.

skiptaylor wrote:Is there any real training in place for the new calendar system?

While not always the case, I found that with the new calendar pressing the HELP button in the top-right corner uncovered an extensive set of web pages with lots of information, instruction, and training in multiple languages. Perhaps this is what you were seeking?

skiptaylor wrote:*sigh* Too much change, way too fast.

I can't disagree there!

I'm one of those secretaries who pushes on the leading edge of stuff like this. Our Stake has also not fully adopted the new calendar features and have input items on both the current and "classic" calendars. I finally just re-entered the pertinent "classic" stake data onto our current ward calendar. As the stake migrates to the current calendar I figure I'll just have to delete the then-duplicate entries.

Unfortunately that makes me responsible for monitoring both calendars in case there are changes ...

We created a temporary ward calendar called "Stk Calendar" that we have input all the stake events into. Best way we could work around a stake that doesn't use the new but a ward that does. The stake doesn't plan to change until forced to, or some bugs are worked out. I'm not understanding the "bugs", but there it is.

skiptaylor wrote:*sigh* Too much change, way too fast.

Hey, we can master it!

In a discussion on this very topic, our bishop counselor recently compared these new tools to finding the liahona, and being new, and different, and not really understood, some say "Set it over there with the rest of the gear until we figure it out...Now, which way should we go?"

kisaac wrote:In a discussion on this very topic, our bishop counselor recently compared these new tools to finding the liahona, and being new, and different, and not really understood, some say "Set it over there with the rest of the gear until we figure it out...Now, which way should we go?"

Well said!

As a stake clerk I notice every time I log into the new calendar a "wizard" comes up to explain to me how to export my old calendar to the new one. The Executive Secretary accidentally walked through it and we ended up with about 10 stake calendars for just about every category you could think of. I like things simple and I don't think that having more than three or four calendars is much use in our "non-technologically savvy" stake. I love the new technology and pushed the stake to get on the old LUWS when they first came out but I feel like I have been trying to drag people along for over six years now with limited progress. I have to keep it simple or people just won't use it. I sometimes envy those stakes that jump in with both feet and have members that are excited about it too. I guess it is my lot in life to learn patience and strive to be a very good teacher.

It really would be been nice if each stake (or unit) could specify which calendar the link on the new website would point to. This really has been confusing for people, and since the web site itself gives plenty of reasons to wait, it seems a contradiction to not give an option. And no place to put an announcement either (aside from inside a new calendar).