Duty to God and Personal Progress church web sites

Is anyone aware of why there is a delay in the roll out of the new Duty to God and Personal Progess web sites? We are looking forward to incorporating them both into our programs, but are are surprised they have lagged behind the announcements. Personal Progress at least has the new booklet available, but still promotes the ability to track and journal via the web. I believe the new Duty to God web resources promise the same capability.

Anyone aware of the projected ETAs of these resources?

dshep2020 wrote:Is anyone aware of why there is a delay in the roll out of the new Duty to God and Personal Progress web sites? We are looking forward to incorporating them both into our programs, but are are surprised they have lagged behind the announcements. Personal Progress at least has the new booklet available, but still promotes the ability to track and journal via the web. I believe the new Duty to God web resources promise the same capability.

Anyone aware of the projected ETAs of these resources?

The Duty To God site is: http://www.lds.org/dutytogod/
and has a link to it from the lds.org home page announcement. I haven't seen anything yet for the personal progress site, however, it would appear that the site's at: http://www.lds.org/pa/yw/pp/cs/index.html

techgy wrote:The Duty To God site is: http://www.lds.org/dutytogod/
and has a link to it from the lds.org home page announcement. I haven't seen anything yet for the personal progress site, however, it would appear that the site's at: http://www.lds.org/pa/yw/pp/cs/index.html

Easier links to remember are: dutytogod.lds.org and personalprogress.lds.org.

The former link was mentioned in the 1 Jun 2010 letter titled "Fulfilling My Duty to God: For Aaronic Priesthood Holders"; and the latter is included in the Tools menu ofbeta.lds.org, and was indirectly referred to in the 28 Dec 2009 letter titled "Revised Personal Progress Materials," which pointed to youngwomen.lds.org, which contains a link to Online version of Personal Progress.

dshep2020 wrote:Anyone aware of the projected ETAs of these resources?

However, none of these sources give any proposed date for full implementation of these new sites.

Yes, the newer links are the ones that I have. I was just hoping that someone on the tech forum would have an update on when the full tracking websites would be available.

- Dave

At least the YW Personal Progress site was up and running several weeks ago. I looked at it, tried it out, and told our Young Women leadership about it. It has since been brought down and a message stating it was coming soon added to the site. Not sure what happened. I suspect Personal Progress is complete and they are waiting to roll them both together when the Duty to God site is complete. Just my speculation however.

dshep2020 wrote:Personal Progress at least has the new booklet available .... I believe the new Duty to God web resources promise the same capability.

In English, the Duty to God site now has the PDF of the booklet as well as implementation videos that were distributed on DVD last month.

Nice! Hope the Personal Progress and Duty to God tracking site come online soon too.

-Dave

We are in the process of creating an enhanced Single Sign On solution for login and security throughout LDS.Org (including these apps). That's the reason some of the apps that were up previously are down now. We hope to be completing that project soon and porting all LDS.Org apps to the new mechanism. When that is done, the Personal Progress app will come back up.

We are starting the Duty to God application development this week. I don't know what the schedule is to complete it, but it is "coming soon".

Will this SSO solution use LDS Account credentials?

MorettiDP wrote:Will this SSO solution use LDS Account credentials?

Yes, all new sign-on systems being developed use LDS Account.

The Personal Progress site is actually up, however all but one thing does not link to it.

Browsing the beta.lds.org home page archive for June (page 2), there's a link to the Personal Progress site:
https://beta.lds.org/young-women/personal-progress?locale=eng

The official page, and official word seems to be that it's "coming soon" however as several people have commented here, and as noted at personalprogress.lds.org.

I'm still not seeing the Duty to God interactive book online. Anyone know when it will be available? The dutytogod.lds.org web site states it will be available in English by mid-September.

macsense wrote:I'm still not seeing the Duty to God interactive book online. Anyone know when it will be available? The dutytogod.lds.org web site states it will be available in English by mid-September.

Ah, but no year was mentioned, so it could be 11 months away . I don't know any details, except that it is a software project, and delays happen.

Does anyone know which callings are able to access the leadership portion of the Personal Progress site?

Our YW president can access it, as can parents, but our ward has a YW specialist in charge of Personal Progress, and when logged in she can't view any of the leadership menus on the site.

She had been set in a custom position as there's no standardised position responsible for PP. To troubleshoot it, we put her in a spare standardised position (YW Assistant camp director) but she still can't see the leadership features.

Does anyone know which YW callings are able to access the leadership features on the site?

ausDP wrote:Does anyone know which callings are able to access the leadership portion of the Personal Progress site?

Our YW president can access it, as can parents, but our ward has a YW specialist in charge of Personal Progress, and when logged in she can't view any of the leadership menus on the site.

She had been set in a custom position as there's no standardised position responsible for PP. To troubleshoot it, we put her in a spare standardised position (YW Assistant camp director) but she still can't see the leadership features.

Does anyone know which YW callings are able to access the leadership features on the site?

I came here looking for the exact same information. My ward has a personal progress specialist, and we really want her to be able to utilize the new online tracking as well as being able to sign off on the YW who complete requirements.

The new Young Women Personal Progress website is fully up and operational at http://personalprogress.lds.org.

The recent addition of a Getting Started page and a Frequently Asked Questions page will likely answer many of your questions. In a pre-login state, all the contents of the handbook can be viewed, including these two pages just mentioned. Young women, YW leaders, and parents will need to sign in with their LDS Account to fully participate in the online tracking and journal features.

Pay particular note to FAQ #11, which lists the leaders that have Personal Progress approval status. These are all standard MLS positions. Some wards have created custom personal progress specialist positions in MLS; however, these are not recognized by the application. It is my understanding that the General Young Women Office does not encourage wards and stakes in calling personal progress specialists—expecting that Young Women presidencies and advisers will manage Personal Progress in the ward and stake—and so does not plan to accommodate them for Online Personal Progress. If a ward still intends to have this position, a workaround might be to ask the ward clerk to enter the specialist as another YW secretary.

peredehuit wrote: If a ward still intends to have this position, a workaround might be to ask the ward clerk to enter the specialist as another YW secretary.

The problem with this is that MLS only allows one YW secretary at any one time.

Ah, you are correct--MLS only allows one person to be assigned to the standard calling of Young Women secretary. However, multiple advisers are allowed.

My YW president is wondering if there's any way to change the dates on Personal Progress items. Some of our newly registered girls have completed items, and she'd like to be able to change the dates on their items to reflect their actual completed date, not today's date.

Also, currently the system only allows tracking for youth who have registered. Will Leaders be able to use the system to track unregistered youth? Can that tracking move from ward to ward?

Also, regarding Personal Progress advisers, the new handbook states that YW secretaries track personal progress. The presidency is encouraged to also work on Personal Progress and to encourage girls to work on it. Advisers may also be used to help track Progress. (http://lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-admi ... g=eng#10.3)

I looked at this and do not see my daughter listed for our ward. Is this something that the ward YW leader must "kick start" to begin working? I'm asking 'cuz generally people in my ward look to me to figure out the new tech stuff (exec sec coupled with tech), and I want our ward to start using it but not sure how to help our YW president start.

I also noticed that the DTG site seems to be up and running, and it lets ME add information for MY DTG (apparently), though I am the parent, not the YM. I like that possibility to help men work on DTG for themselves alongside the sons/youth as parents/advisers. But don't see where the parent or leader would "sign off" for the YM.

Also don't understand how the bishop could review and see the individual progress.

tortdog wrote:I looked at this and do not see my daughter listed for our ward. Is this something that the ward YW leader must "kick start" to begin working? I'm asking 'cuz generally people in my ward look to me to figure out the new tech stuff (exec sec coupled with tech), and I want our ward to start using it but not sure how to help our YW president start.

Your daughter must sign in using her LDS Account and begin using the site before you, your wife, or any member of the YW Presidency can review or approve a value experience or project. More help is found on the FAQs for the site.

tortdog wrote:I also noticed that the DTG site seems to be up and running, and it lets ME add information for MY DTG (apparently), though I am the parent, not the YM. I like that possibility to help men work on DTG for themselves alongside the sons/youth as parents/advisers. But don't see where the parent or leader would "sign off" for the YM.

Your wife will also be able to work on her Personal Progress if she so desires. This is a feature of the Duty to God and Personal Progress sites to permit parents and leaders engage in the same experience and help the youth.

If your household has a young man who has signed in to use the site then you will be able to track his progress just as you would for young women in your household in the Personal Progress site. But until the young man or young woman has signed in they will not be listed and you will not be able to track their progress.

tortdog wrote:Also don't understand how the bishop could review and see the individual progress.

The access for unit leaders is through their LDS Account and their calling as listed in MLS. Leaders not listed using MLS standard positions will not have access to the site as a leader. Parents and leaders will be able to sign off and review once the young man or young woman has signed in to the site and begun to track their progress.

I don't think that the instructions are clear enough to tell parents that the youth need to sign in. On a second read, that makes sense now, but remember that most kids will first be reading this from the parents' account as I assume most kids have not created an LDS Account yet.

Language says:

>To use any of the tracking and journal features online, you must sign in with your LDS Account.

I'd change that to:

>For a Young Woman to use any of the tracking and journal features online, the Young Woman must sign in with her LDS Account.

Pronouns are confusing. Let me know if you (pronoun!) think I should post this via feedback or not. Maybe I'm the strange bird.

>Your daughter must sign in using her LDS Account and begin using the site before you, your wife, or any member of the YW Presidency can review or approve a value experience or project. More help is found on the FAQs for the site.

Is there a location that lists the leaders who have access to the YM/YW progress?

tortdog wrote:Is there a location that lists the leaders who have access to the YM/YW progress?

Check FAQ #11.

I need to stop asking questions . . .

Okay. We just ran this past our SPcy and Bishopric (the techie guys) and the first question we all hit on is why can't the YM with the priesthood keys monitor members of their own quorum? I couldn't find a FAQ for the DTG and assume it follows the same leadership rights as the YW (adults only).

In our stake, we emphasize that the TQ president hold PPIs with members of his quorum. The TQ secretary should be able to track how the Teachers are doing and the presidency review that. We are trying to get AWAY from the adults doing everything (and leave them as advisers). This whole model seems to go against that.

Note also that in our Stake the SPcy just changed the responsibility of the YW to track the shadow leadership as well. As opposed to the adult YW leaders running things, the YW youth presidencies are tasked with running things. SPcy made the change based on the new CHI2. But the Personal Progress seems to hinder the ability of the YW youth leaders to do so.

tortdog wrote:Okay. We just ran this past our SPcy and Bishopric (the techie guys) and the first question we all hit on is why can't the YM with the priesthood keys monitor members of their own quorum? I couldn't find a FAQ for the DTG and assume it follows the same leadership rights as the YW (adults only).

It is unfortunate that there isn't any help or FAQ for the Duty to God site. I would hope that something is planned and in development. Since both the Duty to God site and the Personal Progress site are not community developed programs there is little information available on how the fully developed sites are intended to function.

I agree that in keeping with leadership responsibilities within both the quorums and classes that the youth leaders should be able to review the progress of their respective quorums and classes. I would most certainly expect it for the quorums since the membership for each quorum is established by way of the priesthood calling recorded in MLS. That would be a bit more programming for the YW class membership since the YW members are not called into the YW program. Regardless, it is possible to be done.

My guess is that the youth leaders will eventually have the review necessary to fulfill their callings sometime in the future. The deployment method, as demonstrated by other sites newly deployed such as the directory and calendar, seems to be to build a usable part of the site and then add capabilities as they are completed.

As you pointed out it would not be in keeping with the Handbook for the youth leaders not to be able fulfill their responsibilities using the online tracking tools when their quorum or class members are using it as their personal method of tracking.

I just posted it as feedback. Seems it would be useful for others as well.

I'm more than willing to be patient and am grateful that the Church is rolling things out as they are being developed as opposed to waiting until things are perfect pending a release. I'd rather get something today, then everything all at once who knows when in the future. Already the tools have made it far easier for me to carry out my calling.

We've also realized that the tracking of the YM by adults (whether parents or leaders) is not setup for DTG, just Personal Progress. But it's a start.

Does anyone know if the leader tracking is working for Duty to God?

[font=&quot] There are no check-off boxes planned for Duty to God. Tracking comes from sharing, which is the premise on which Duty to God is built. Different functionality than Personal Progress. [/font]

Thanks PEREDEHUIT for the info. It took a lot of research and reading multiple blogs, to conclude that DtG has no official online means of tracking progress, via lds.org (duty to God interactive site) or via 3rd party. Since my calling is to track DtG progress and present to the Bishop--does anyone have any creative ideas of how they are doing this in their wards??
Regards,
Dennis

peredehuit wrote:There are no check-off boxes planned for Duty to God. Tracking comes from sharing, which is the premise on which Duty to God is built. Different functionality than Personal Progress.

jdlessley wrote:Check FAQ #11.

I noticed that FAQ #11 says that Bishops (and his counselors) are considered leaders and will "have the ability to view Personal Progress information for those young women for whom they are responsible". Does this apply to Branch Presidents (and counselors)?. I'm afraid I don't see any special link suggesting I have that kind of access. My calling is properly updated in MLS (I have been seeing it for some years now), however our YW President has another link named somethingl like "Leader Summary".

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

The Leader Summary report is available to Stake Presidencies, Bishoprics, Stake YW Presidencies, Ward YW Presidencies and YW advisers. We recently discovered that Branches and Districts were not included in the set of permissioned callings and we are working to get this corrected quickly. We anticipate that Branch and District presidencies will be added by the end of next week. You should see the Leader Summary report at the bottom right corner of the Personal Progress Home page when you have been entitled to view it.

Just a thought. You might want to include the ward clerk, young women secretary, and young men secretary to the list of people that can have access to the status of progress. It is usually the ward clerk who is called when there is a problem with a member setting up an account or teaching someone how to use the system, and it is usually the secretary of the organization who is tasked with keeping track of the youth progress.

peredehuit wrote:[font=&quot] There are no check-off boxes planned for Duty to God. Tracking comes from sharing, which is the premise on which Duty to God is built. Different functionality than Personal Progress. [/font]

This would be fine if the sharing was in Quorum only (but DtG clearly states that sometimes sharing can be to a single individual or to their family, etc - "For example, you could share with your family, with friends, in seminary, or in quorum meetings."), or if someone was present in all the quorums to track the young men's progress, or if we didn't change YM leaders.

There needs to be a way to track this information rather than spreadsheets and printed paper. This is a serious programming defect if that is the way it was designed.

Are leaders able to view the progress of their youth on PP and DtG?

-Jerry

I just found https://tech.lds.org/forum/showthread.p ... l+progress which doesn't explicitly answer my question, but does imply that leaders with the appropriate calling (in mls) can view progress. Is there a schematic of which callings can access which portions of lds.org? As it is constantly changing, it would be neat to see a live updating page of this.

zoomjer wrote:Are leaders able to view the progress of their youth on PP and DtG?

Yes, for PP (see personalprogress.lds.org), but no for DtG.

ammonihah wrote:Just a thought. You might want to include the ward clerk, young women secretary, and young men secretary to the list of people that can have access to the status of progress. It is usually the ward clerk who is called when there is a problem with a member setting up an account or teaching someone how to use the system, and it is usually the secretary of the organization who is tasked with keeping track of the youth progress.

Two thumbs up!!! The bishop has asked me (ward clerk) to generate reports for bishopric/pec/ward council but I don't have permissions to access the YW PP reports. Seems odd since the ward clerk is usually responsible for printing reports.

I hope some kind of reporting can be added to DTG as well. Currently we're using troopmaster to track DTG.

I've submitted both of these suggestions via the feedback page of the YW PP site.

jdlessley wrote:It is unfortunate that there isn't any help or FAQ for the Duty to God site. I would hope that something is planned and in development.

Is there an online FAQ for the Duty to God website now?

None that I can find.

jdlessley wrote:None that I can find.

Okay, thank you! I was just making sure I wasn't overlooking something. It would be a nice feature to have.