LDSTech Forum Uses LDS Account

LDS Account provides you with a single user name and password to interact with online LDS Church resources. LDS Account will become the primary authentication method for most Church sites and applications.

The LDSTech forums will be switching to LDS Account in the near future. To help prepare for this migration, we need you to visit the LDSTech Forum Account Migration page to move your forum account to LDS Account. You will have 4 weeks to make this migration.

People with LDSTech Forum user names and passwords will be prompted to enter their LDS Account information to create the link. Those who do not associate their LDSTech Forum account with an LDS Account will have their forum accounts disabled.

To obtain an LDS Account, visit the Register for an LDS Account page. Members of the Church will need their member registration number (MRN) and birth date. If you don’t know your MRN, ask your ward or branch clerk for your Individual Ordinance Summary. If you are temple endowed, your MRN can be found on the back of your temple recommend.

Individuals who are not members of the Church are also invited to register for an LDS Account. You will not need any membership information for this. Visit the Non-member LDS Account Registration page.

If you are a member of the Church and you don’t know your membership information, we ask that you do not sign up as a non-member.

Please send an e-mail to LDS-TECH@ldschurch.orgif you need help.

For those short of memory (like myself), LDS Account is the same as what the Local Unit Website (ward/stake website) has been using for the last several months.

It seems as though dashes are required when entering the membership number. If this is true it should be specified.

Gustaf wrote:It seems as though dashes are required when entering the membership number. If this is true it should be specified.

No, dashes are not required. They are allowed, but are not necessary; 001-2345-6789 works just the same as 00123456789. That's probably why there is no mention of the issue.

I 'migrated' or 'cross associated' with no hassles at all.
Very simple. Still smiling.

Account migration was OK, but when I tried to log in, it would not work, so I went to the 'Micgration' page mentioned above and wentt hrough it again but it didn't take saying the migration had already taken place.

Given that, tried to sign in with the LDS Account again, and vBulletin threw an error message again. Still can't sign in with LDS Account.

JamesAnderson wrote:Account migration was OK, but when I tried to log in, it would not work, so I went to the 'Micgration' page mentioned above and wentt hrough it again but it didn't take saying the migration had already taken place.

Given that, tried to sign in with the LDS Account again, and vBulletin threw an error message again. Still can't sign in with LDS Account.

The forum isn't yet using the LDS account. The migration page is one step in that direction. Until the complete transition is in place, you won't be able to login using the LDS account.

That's good, there are some others who would have thought it was a bug too.

One hope/wish I have is that the forum doesn't require login/password every browser session. It would be very inconvenient for me if it did. I access the forum only at the same secured home computer, and currently it appears a persistent cookie remembers me. Because of my native paranoia, I use a separate browser session for each site at which I need to enter an "important" password, including LDS Account. Having to enter the password each time to access the forum would mean opening and closing a lot more browser sessions.

Maybe it's just me, but I've even copied my existing forum password to the migration utility and it still claims that something is wrong with my TechForum login/password (even though I can log into the forum fine). And (ahem!) there are no feedback loops or other means by which to secure help in the matter either...making the page a 'dead end' for this scenario (cardinal sin of design).

iknovate wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I've even copied my existing forum password to the migration utility and it still claims that something is wrong with my TechForum login/password (even though I can log into the forum fine).

I can't say that you're the only one who has problems with this, but it did work fine for me. You mentioned that you copied your existing forum password. Generally you can't copy from password fields, so that might be the problem (you would be pasting whatever happened to be in your clipboard). It might be prudent to copy your forum user name, so that it is accurately entered (and the same for your LDS Account user name), but you'll have to type in your passwords.

iknovate wrote:And (ahem!) there are no feedback loops or other means by which to secure help in the matter either...making the page a 'dead end' for this scenario (cardinal sin of design).

Ahem, the page does say "Contact LDSTech if you have any questions." If you send e-mail to that linked address, I think you will get help.

So, when?!?!? Is this migration 2 days off, 2 months off, 2 years off? Is there a magical number of mappings of current users that need to be done before the cut-off and switch? With beta.lds.org, familysearch.org, etc... migrating, just curious what the holdup is here? Or is LDSTech on a proverbial tarmac (sp?) waiting 5th in line for a migration behind higher priority web apps?

Matthew 24:36

Haha, very clever Russell!

To answer your question kgthunder, we originally intended this to only take 4 weeks but we've had to stretch it out. We want to get as many people to make this conversion as possible before so as few users as possible get locked out.

McDanielCA wrote:We want to get as many people to make this conversion as possible before so as few users as possible get locked out.

Measured as a percentage of all registered users or as a percentage of users who have logged in in the last x days?

McDanielCA wrote:We want to get as many people to make this conversion as possible before so as few users as possible get locked out.

RussellHltn wrote:Measured as a percentage of all registered users or as a percentage of users who have logged in in the last x days?

Also can you publish what the conversion percentage is at today? And what the target is?

In order for this to occur we will need to associate your current LDSTech forum username with your LDS Account username.

So when the switch is thrown, will we keep our forum username or will it get swapped to our LDS Acc username?
(I'm talking about what is displayed in profiles, next to posts etc, rather than simply logging in)

Caillin wrote:So when the switch is thrown, will we keep our forum username or will it get swapped to our LDS Acc username? (I'm talking about what is displayed in profiles, next to posts etc, rather than simply logging in)

In a moderator forum (not visible to the public), Cassie said:

McDanielCA wrote:Your forum user name will become your LDS Account user name. So your posts will still be tied to you, just via your LDS Account username.

So that means, for example, that all the posts and other activity here on the forum that currently say "Alan_Brown" (my current forum user name) will soon say "aebrown" (my LDS Account name). I'll login as aebrown with my LDS Account password, and everyone here will come to know me as "aebrown".

That's the way the LDSTech wiki already works -- I login using my LDS Account, but underneath there is an automatic association of that account with a MediaWiki account called "aebrown".

Most LDS Account names I've seen use the limitation/convention
of the NetID before them of having just 8 characters. Perhaps
there won't collisions (two users having the same LDS Account name),
but there is a distinct possibility that the appearance of the names will
be more similar to each other causing confusion about identity.

Also the LDS Account would be exposed on a public-facing forum
which is a slight security risk. Since the posts can be searched by
anyone on the internet without logging in, assigning the LDS Account
names to be the forum usernames gives people wishing to compromise
any site using the LDS Account (which is a growing list) a large list
of valid LDS Account usernames making a password-guessing attack
that much easier.

While it might be a little more complicated, I think the LDS Account
should be used on the Forum solely for authentication, and the
forum name preserved. For security and to a clearly identify the
forum posters.

- Atticus Ewig

atticusewig wrote:....Also the LDS Account would be exposed on a public-facing forum which is a slight security risk. Since the posts can be searched by
anyone on the internet without logging in, assigning the LDS Account
names to be the forum usernames gives people wishing to compromise
any site using the LDS Account (which is a growing list) a large list
of valid LDS Account usernames making a password-guessing attack
that much easier.

While it might be a little more complicated, I think the LDS Account
should be used on the Forum solely for authentication, and the
forum name preserved.

- Atticus Ewig

You've made a valid point here in regards to the display of the LDS user names and I would agree that it should be addressed. I'm not as concerned about the commonality of names as I am about the display of the LDS user name itself.

The question as to what the effect on the forum will be when the LDS account is turned on has been brought up several times in different threads and it's one that should be clearly addressed.

I tried to reregister it told me they already have a person with that name and told me to change my name... hmmm I hve tried with all possible names and passwords.... I have asked for mail to get my name, password even help from the adress fron Teckincs...... I have not got any mail... weird!

Maya wrote:I tried to reregister it told me they already have a person with that name and told me to change my name... hmmm I hve tried with all possible names and passwords.... I have asked for mail to get my name, password even help from the adress fron Teckincs...... I have not got any mail... weird!

If you already have an LDS account and have forgotten your username/password you can have it Emailed to you OR you can click the little box that says that you don't have an Email and then enter your membership information. You should be able to work your way through the series of questions and get back into your account.

If you do not already have an LDS account and someone else has chosen the username that you would like to use, then you'll have to pick a different username.

Ok I have not tried that box yet.. will go try now... uh what day I was babtized again...

Maya wrote:uh what day I was baptized again...

Don't worry. You only need your birth date now...

No it asks for the.. what do you call it when you are given the HS. If I ask it to send me the name I registered. If I try to re-register it just tells me, that they already have someone using that e-mail... maybe I need to re-register with an other e-mail and name... but that would not be as good as geting in my old account.

Maya wrote:No it asks for the.. what do you call it when you are given the HS. If I ask it to send me the name I registered. If I try to re-register it just tells me, that they already have someone using that e-mail... maybe I need to re-register with an other e-mail and name... but that would not be as good as geting in my old account.

Maya,

You are only permitted ONE LDS account. As I indicated earlier, if you have forgotten your Username or Password go to the web site of http://ldsaccount.lds.org and click on the words "Can't Sign In".

If you provide an Email address AND you're previously registered, you will be sent your logon information. If you do not have access to the Email address that you originally registered with then you can check the box that says that you don't have an Email and then fill out the membership information.

If you enter your LDS information (Membership Number and your Date of Birth) you should be able to get back into your account.

All of this assumes that you registered in the first place.

Maya wrote:No it asks for the.. what do you call it when you are given the HS.

The English word you are looking for is "Confirmation". In addition to your Membership Record Number, LDS Account used to ask for your confirmation date, but now it only asks for your birth date.

Maya wrote:If I try to re-register it just tells me, that they already have someone using that e-mail... maybe I need to re-register with an other e-mail and name... but that would not be as good as geting in my old account.

As you work through the process of recovering your user name, you can say that you don't have or remember your e-mail address. Then you enter your Membership Record Number and your birthdate. If those pieces of information are successfully entered, then you will have to answer a couple of additional security questions (you would have specified those answers at the time you registered). If you answer those questions correctly, then you are logged in to your account and you can change the e-mail address associated with your account (or any other information on your profile).

OK got it.... You NEED to correct the norwegean on the site from bekreftelses dato to fødselsdato; It asks for confirmation date not birthday!

I must have a spell on me... I got the thig asking if I am xxxx and I am so I said yes. I changed my e-mail to hotmail, as I am afraid my MG dont show the junkmails at all... Then I did not get in to change password with that name that I was asked if I was this person, to cange my password, but I got in with the one I thought was my "username". But as I tried to connect this user name and the new password ... it did not work... btw I DID get an information on my MG mail about changing my e-mail and I did get in my junkmail in hotmail the mail of changing the e-mail and password. But now it says it sends the password to my gmail... not hot mail... and I dont get a mail in either....

McDanielCA wrote:The LDSTech forums will be switching to LDS Account in the near future.

The original post in this thread was made on February 26, 2010. Just curious how close we may be getting to actually switching the Forum to LDS Account.

JLRose wrote:The original post in this thread was made on February 26, 2010. Just curious how close we may be getting to actually switching the Forum to LDS Account.

I can't say authoritatively, but I have gotten the impression it should be quite soon. I know a few of the wrinkles they have been trying to iron out since February are the migration of existing forum user accounts to existing LDS Accounts, and also how to continue to keep a forum user account linked to the LDS Account when a user changes the username.

mkmurray wrote:I have gotten the impression it should be quite soon.

"Quite soon" is certainly more definitive than "in the near future". Thanks for the update. [grin]

This is my first post since the change to LDS account. Since my LDS account name is different from the name I was using here, I'm not sure how I will be identified here now.

...and, now I know. I suppose nobody will recognize me now.

mrrad wrote:This is my first post since the change to LDS account. Since my LDS account name is different from the name I was using here, I'm not sure how I will be identified here now.

...and, now I know. I suppose nobody will recognize me now.

Apparently, you added a profile pic that would help us out! Thanks

Good efforts, many of us are looking for such a service. Thanks.