Android / droid LDS apps

Reveal - Allows you to use the vast Yaceyware (ybk) library on your android device.

Unit List On The Run (runs on your PC, not phone) - Automatically creates a Yanceyware book from the contents of your Ward website. Downloads a roster from each Ward in your Stake.

Ward Roster - New program that displays data from MLS exports.

Ward Tools - No android app yet, but it recently went open source so hopefully someone will port it to Android.

By using Unit List On The Run along with Reveal you can look up anyone in the Stake, click an icon next to their name, and see a street view, see it on a map, or navigate to the home!

bkaz wrote:Reveal - Allows you to use the vast Yaceyware (ybk) library on your android device.

Unit List On The Run (runs on your PC, not phone) - Automatically creates a Yanceyware book from the contents of your Ward website. Downloads a roster from each Ward in your Stake.

Ward Roster - New program that displays data from MLS exports.

Ward Info - No android app yet, but it recently went open source so hopefully someone will port it to Android.

By using Unit List On The Run along with Reveal you can look up anyone in the Stake, click an icon next to their name, and see a street view, see it on a map, or navigate to the home!

A couple of tweaks to that list:

• Ward Roster has two modes: In can be populated by the Membership.csv export (no HT/VT or callings so far) available to leaders. Alternately it can be populated from a download from the local unit website, which contains directory data for general-membership use.
• I think you might mean Ward Tools rather than Ward Info. Ward Tools did recently go open-source, and an Android version is in development. (I don't know anything about Ward Info.)

Oops... got my names wrong. Corrected the first post. Thanks!

No links?

bkaz wrote:By using Unit List On The Run along with Reveal you can look up anyone in the Stake, click an icon next to their name, and see a street view, see it on a map, or navigate to the home!

I can do the same just by pulling up LUWS on the browser.

In LUWS, as long as the phone number is 10-digit, it works. There's a minor bug with the address in that only the first line gets transfered to the Map app. Not a problem if the street name is uncommon, but it may not find it if it's a common street name.

RussellHltn wrote:

bkaz wrote:By using Unit List On The Run along with Reveal you can look up anyone in the Stake, click an icon next to their name, and see a street view, see it on a map, or navigate to the home!

I can do the same just by pulling up LUWS on the browser.

Seeing a map for each household is not a normal LUWS capability. I'm guessing you have installed a Greasemonkey Firefox script (as described in this post).

And navigating to the home is a bit easier with a handheld devide with GPS capabilities than with a desktop computer.

Alan_Brown wrote:Seeing a map for each household is not a normal LUWS capability. I'm guessing you have installed a Greasemonkey Firefox script (as described in this post).

I guess I should have been a little more explicit. Since this is a Android thread, If I open LUWS on my Motorola Droid, I can just touch the address. This is completely out of the box, but it is a hidden feature since there's no clue that it's a clickable link.

Also, navigation gives me three options for the directions: By car, by bus and walking. There's also some speech capability. This looks to be a interesting platform to start development for tools for the blind.

Alan_Brown wrote:Seeing a map for each household is not a normal LUWS capability. I'm guessing you have installed a Greasemonkey Firefox script (as described in this post).

As explained in the comments in that post, the mobile version of LUWS includes an embedded link to Google maps for addresses that seem to be pretested for geocoding, and enabled smartphones call that link directly to activate the onboard Google Maps app.

That is the hidden feature RusselHltn is talking about. I find this feature quite handy. The main downside to connecting to LUWS is the latency, which is why I prefer an app like Ward Roster. Most of those addresses are clickable there, too, with similar behavior.

I was using classic LUWS. There is no visible link, but if you tap it, it's there.

I didn't see any similar functionality with Ward Roster. Oddly, the city/state from the 108 test data did not import. Maybe that's why.

Great input - especially about LUWS. I hadn't thought of that yet.

Using Reveal/ULOTR is much more responsive, but you do have to manually update the data. To speed things up I copied the Unit List On The Run files into the folder with my YBKs. Then I just need to run ULOTR from the mounted drive and it saves the new YBK in the correct folder.

I hope ULOTR goes open source or gets updated soon.

Also can't wait for an Android Ward Tools to come out or for Ward Roster to pick up callings/HT/VT info.

boomerbubba wrote:As explained in the comments in that post, the mobile version of LUWS includes an embedded link to Google maps for addresses that seem to be pretested for geocoding, and enabled smartphones call that link directly to activate the onboard Google Maps app.

That is the hidden feature RusselHltn is talking about. I find this feature quite handy. The main downside to connecting to LUWS is the latency, which is why I prefer an app like Ward Roster. Most of those addresses are clickable there, too, with similar behavior.

I'm pretty sure that is an Android feature. I don't think there is a separate mobile version of LUWS. I get similar behavior for addresses on other sites. This video demonstrates the general Android browser feature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2FpDDEVWtk

eblood66 wrote:I'm pretty sure that is an Android feature. I don't think there is a separate mobile version of LUWS. I get similar behavior for addresses on other sites. This video demonstrates the general Android browser feature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2FpDDEVWtk

Maybe I am giving to much credit to the server-side developers of LUWS and not enough to the Android developers at Google.

What is impressive is that -- however this is happening -- well-formatted but non-geocodable addresses are not even clickable, but geocodable addresses are. So something is doing some preprocessing to render the clickable links only for addresses that the maps app can process. If that is happening on the fly in the Android browser, I am impressed.

Hmm. I am slightly less impressed. I also see some well-formed and geocodable addresses that are not clickable.

RussellHltn wrote:I didn't see any similar functionality with Ward Roster. Oddly, the city/state from the 108 test data did not import. Maybe that's why.

Ward Roster, when populated from my ward's LUWS download file, works quite well with almost all addresses clickable. I haven't tried the app lately with MLS data.

The failure of MLS 3.1.0b8 beta to export city and state fields, which occurs in Membership.csv, HomeTeaching.csv and VisitingTeaching.csv, looks like a bug. The city and state are visible when browsing membership records through the user interface.

boomerbubba wrote:The failure of MLS 3.1.0b8 beta to export city and state fields, which occurs in Membership.csv, HomeTeaching.csv and VisitingTeaching.csv, looks like a bug. The city and state are visible when browsing membership records through the user interface.

Are you saying that in your testing that the city and state fields are not included those three export files? They most definitely are included in those export files in my testing, so I see no bug.

Could it be that you are using fresh test unit data? If so, the addresses are not formatted, and so the city and state fields are not actually populated in the database, even though they may appear that way in the UI. In this case there would be an Urgent task reminding you to format the addresses. I wish the test data didn't work that way, but it's only yet another limitation of the test data, not an issue with real MLS data. I have formatted the addresses in my test data so that I can generate more realistic reports and exports.

Alan_Brown wrote:Are you saying that in your testing that the city and state fields are not included those three export files? They most definitely are included in those export files in my testing, so I see no bug.

Could it be that you are using fresh test unit data? If so, the addresses are not formatted, and so the city and state fields are not actually populated in the database, even though they may appear that way in the UI. In this case there would be an Urgent task reminding you to format the addresses. I wish the test data didn't work that way, but it's only yet another limitation of the test data, not an issue with real MLS data. I have formatted the addresses in my test data so that I can generate more realistic reports and exports.

Yes, I am using fresh test data, and I have done no "Urgent Task" reformatting.

BTW, I replicated this comment over on the other thread about the email and phone changes. Maybe this dialog should be moved there.

boomerbubba wrote: Hmm. I am slightly less impressed. I also see some well-formed and geocodable addresses that are not clickable.

It certainly doesn't like the grid-style addresses used a lot in Utah (eg 999 West 100 South). Almost all of my ward are grid addresses and none of them are clickable. The only ones that are clickable are the ones with a normal non-numeric street address (which is only about 3 of them). Of course, I can see almost all the houses in my ward from my house so I don't have much need to map them .

new guy here... trying to export membership data to my droid to us navigation/gps to find members in my far-flung ward, I really need this to work.- I recently dowloaded the app from the droid store "Ward Roster". when I push the help button on the app for help w/ the export it directs me to dowload the membership info to my sd card? does the droid have an sd card? if so how do I do that?

M D M wrote:new guy here... trying to export membership data to my droid to us navigation/gps to find members in my far-flung ward, I really need this to work.- I recently dowloaded the app from the droid store "Ward Roster". when I push the help button on the app for help w/ the export it directs me to dowload the membership info to my sd card? does the droid have an sd card? if so how do I do that?

Yes, the Droid has an SD card (technically a microSD card). It is just flash memory.

You use the supplied USB cable to plug the phone into the computer. Then click on a popup to mount it as a flash drive on your computer, and copy the file to the Ward Roster directory. Then unmount the drive and unplug the USB cable before running the import.

After the import. If you are using exports from the church MLS system. Remount the drive or use a third-party file manager installed on the Droid to delete the confidential Membership.csv file.

See the Ward Roster site for support at http://wardroster.blogspot.com

M D M wrote:new guy here... trying to export membership data to my droid to us navigation/gps to find members in my far-flung ward, I really need this to work.- I recently dowloaded the app from the droid store "Ward Roster". when I push the help button on the app for help w/ the export it directs me to dowload the membership info to my sd card? does the droid have an sd card? if so how do I do that?

I don't know much about the Droid except what I have read. What I understand is that the Droid has a limited amount of built in memory (256 MB available for Apps) where applications can be installed and therefore it uses the SD card for storing the data items. I believe I read that Apps can not be stored on the SD card, just the data from the Apps. The SD card can also be used for other data items like music, movies, books, etc. Once the 256 MB of Apps storage is full you can not install any more Apps.

It is not like the iPhone where it has 8GB, 16GB, or 32GB of built in memory all of it available for Apps or data items.

M D M wrote:does the droid have an sd card?

It comes standard with a 16GB card, user upgradeable to 32GB. See boomerbubba's post for directions.

BOOMER- Your directions and citations referencing other sources to make Ward Roster work were just right. The app now works perfectly on my droid and I can click on the phone number to dial it, or to obtain the physical address. The droid gives me voice prompts to my next destination. I no longer need a physical map! A huge time saver for me making it much easier to minister to the saints of my brand new ward.
Thank you so much!
MDM

M D M wrote:The app now works perfectly on my droid and I can click on the phone number to dial it, or to obtain the physical address. The droid gives me voice prompts to my next destination. I no longer need a physical map! A huge time saver for me making it much easier to minister to the saints of my brand new ward.

Are you populating Ward Roster from the unit website or from MLS?

In any case, I think you will see even better tools becoming available in the near future. There is a lot of stuff in the pipeline right now, for this platform and others, from Church developers and others. Once the Church's own mapping and geocoding application is rolled out, developers should be able to leverage that resource with even more precise mapping on both computers and phone/GPS devices.

boomerbubba wrote:Are you populating Ward Roster from the unit website or from MLS?

In any case, I think you will see even better tools becoming available in the near future. There is a lot of stuff in the pipeline right now, for this platform and others, from Church developers and others. Once the Church's own mapping and geocoding application is rolled out, developers should be able to leverage that resource with even more precise mapping on both computers and phone/GPS devices.

I recently learned that returnandreport.org will soon have some very nice Android application support.

TB

TechnoBabel wrote:I recently learned that returnandreport.org will soon have some very nice Android application support.

TB

wow. I guess I was right. It looks as though they just added a web service so that developers can write applications that will integrate with returnandreport. I'm going to see about taking advantage of this for my Android apps.

http://returnandreport.org/forums/forum ... sts=1#M326

TB

bkaz wrote:Reveal - Allows you to use the vast Yaceyware (ybk) library on your android device.

Where can I find Reveal?

Open "Market" on your phone. Do a search for "LDS" and you should see it in the list.

rslay wrote:Where can I find Reveal?

An easy way to find Android apps is to search a web site such as Andolib.com using a web browser on your computer. This site mirrors the Android Market listings. For example, the page for the Reveal app is here.

Then -- assuming you have the popular Barcode Reader app installed on your Android phone -- just shoot the QR barcode on the web page. That will take you directly to the Market entry for downloading the app.

It's easier done than said.