replacement for Flash-based interactive music player?

22 postsstarted by perdman 9,722 viewsoriginal topic

New Member
#1
As of January 12th, Adobe has blocked all Flash content from running in Flash player. Most browsers (including my own) will no longer allow Flash to run.

For years I've relied on the wonderful Flash-based Interactive music player on LDS.org to quickly transpose hymns. But sadly it is no longer available. Now, when I visit https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/music/library/hymns all I get is the MP3 audio playback and PDF-based sheetmusic display. There are no options for transposition, so I'm required to spend a lot more time doing the transpositions myself.

Will a non-flash alternative be developed that brings back this functionality?

Is there some place else I need to ask this question in order to get an answer?
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#2
Using the 'Feedback' link or button is the best way to get the issue raised to those who make development decisions.
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#3
When our unit was limited to only having virtual sacrament meetings, we also used the Flash music player, to show the words and also play the music (with singing) at the same time. Testing it out now, it seems like the main page you linked allows you to play the hymns with the singing accompaniment, but when clicking a particular hymn to display the words, the music player only does the instrument but not the singing. I'm not surprised this ended up happening, but I'm sure a number of people will miss it for a variety of reasons.
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#4
rmrichesjr wrote:Using the 'Feedback' link or button is the best way to get the issue raised to those who make development decisions.
I've never gotten a response from anybody on the Feedback link I think that link goes to a bit bucket blackhole. It's possible that CHQ doesn't make website design decisions based on individual member feedback (unless they're specifically requesting it).
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#5
headybr wrote:
rmrichesjr wrote:Using the 'Feedback' link or button is the best way to get the issue raised to those who make development decisions.
I've never gotten a response from anybody on the Feedback link I think that link goes to a bit bucket blackhole. It's possible that CHQ doesn't make website design decisions based on individual member feedback (unless they're specifically requesting it).
Not getting a response is quite common. But rest assured your feedback was routed to the individual, group, team, committee, or department with responsible oversight or sponsorship. The only thing we know at this time is that a replacement for the tool is in the works. But we seldom get any indication of the progress or timeline. It just shows up. Usually the first to see the solution are those in the beta tester group.
JD Lessley
Have you tried finding your answer on the ChurchofJesusChrist.org Help Center or Tech Wiki?
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#6
I, too, went looking today for this feature (Interactive Music Player) and was so disappointed to find it no longer active. I hope a replacement is coming soon!
New Member
#7
I used the interactive music player ALL the time!!! :'''''''(
New Member
#8
I have been a grateful user of the interactive player. I add my voice to the many who would like to use it again. Hopefully there is a way to develop a replacement that does not rely on Flash.
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#9
Just want to add another vote for bringing back the feature that allows for automatically transposing the music. I was hoping to use it to put together an instrumental Mother's Day medley and was disappointed to see it's no longer there.

Thanks,

Rick Martell
Baltimore, Maryland
Community Moderators
#10
Please keep in mind that this is (only) a user-to-user discussion forum. Nobody with any influence over development decision is likely to ever see this thread. If you want your suggestions to be taken into consideration, please use the 'Feedback' link or button.
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#11
So sad. I was really needing to transpose "I am a Child of God"...
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#12
sbenboy wrote:So sad. I was really needing to transpose "I am a Child of God"...
If you can afford the time to do it, one option would be to enter the music into a musical notation program that can then do the transposing for you. With a bit of practice, the free-to-use open source program called MuseScore aka MScore is available for a variety of operating systems. With a little practice, it's fairly quick to enter a simple melody--especially with keyboard shortcuts. It can also handle very complex music.
New Member
#13
I have found something useful in: https://hymnary.org/

For example to play "Count your blesings" they show an interactive music player. It doesn't have all but it is something :)
https://my.hymnary.org/song/dynamic/229 ... oviostatic

I'm sure that they are working in a new tool.
Adobe is the one who retired flash, not the technical service of the Church hehehe :D

PD: Sorry for my bad english.
New Member
#14
Please return the interactive music player. That's how I rehearse my parts. Thank you.
#15
I wish the lds interactive music player was still around. Please bring it baaack!
Senior Member
#16
choicehealthclinic@gmail.com wrote:I wish the lds interactive music player was still around. Please bring it baaack!
Removing it was not driven by the church - it was flash-based and Adobe took flash out of circulation, which broke the app. I have read elsewhere that a non-flash replacement is in development but no one has given any timeline of when it might be available. The church has a very small development group (as I understand from other posts on the forum - no special knowledge on my part). All we can do is be patient. I'm sure those who direct the developer's priorities are well aware of the desire for this to be made available again, but there are likely lots of projects on the plate and many may be more urgent than this one.
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#17
I'm complained with the feedback and got this response:

Changing the key or playing different parts of a hymn is no longer available due to the lack of Adobe Flash support. Flash is no longer being supported by Apple iOS, Google Chrome, or by Adobe itself. With newer technologies, we hope to soon update the new media player to provide those same features as before.

Thank you and have a blessed day!

Response Team
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#18
You should take a look at this post.
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#19
Hi, I, too, was looking for the interactive music player and it IS available at least for A Mighty Fortress. ;-) From the Hymns page https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/mus ... d?lang=eng there is a link in tiny print below the hymn, "Want to switch to the interactive music player?" with a link to the right. Clicking on that takes me to the hymn with the options to adjust the key, change the tempo, and adjust the part volumes. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/mus ... Flash=true

I am using Windows 10 and Firefox if that matters. I hope this helps someone!
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#20
That must be a new player using something other than Flash. Unless somebody slipped in something behind the scenes, the Flash player plugin is way past end-of-life from Adobe and has not been available since approx. December 12, 2020.

I'm using Firefox ESR on Linux with plain ALSA, and it works but sounds very choppy, as if the audio stream is getting tons of Xruns. The result is similar for a few other hymns, too.
New Member
#21
Help! We need transposing capabilities for the hymns
New Member
#22
At the top of the hymns you can choose: PDF Sheet Music, Lyrics Only, or Interactive Sheet Music. If you choose Interactive Sheet Music, all the functionalities of the old player are there. Different parts, transposition, tempo, by clicking on the button to the right of the play button. (This is only available on the website, not on the Hymns app.)