Non-member record

I was checking the record for a recently baptized convert and discovered that in LCR, her husband is listed as a non-member, but in Member Tools, he is listed with a membership number. In another thread, someone said that you cannot create a record for a non-member over the age of 8... What are my options with this?

You cannot create a record for a non-member but in some instances the church assigns an Administrative Record Number to track non-member spouses and children of members. This id may show up as a membership number in some places but isn't an actual membership number and doesn't mean there is a full membership record for the person. It can't, for instance, be used in a Church Account to get access to member-only resources.

Who creates the non-member "Administrative Record Number"? If is is the ward clerk, how is it created?

lesher wrote:Who creates the non-member "Administrative Record Number"? If is is the ward clerk, how is it created?

See the information in the post just before your post.

eblood66 wrote:You cannot create a record for a non-member but in some instances the church assigns an Administrative Record Number to track non-member spouses and children of members. This id may show up as a membership number in some places but isn't an actual membership number and doesn't mean there is a full membership record for the person. It can't, for instance, be used in a Church Account to get access to member-only resources.

1. So is it a true assumption that when I view a sister with a non-member spouse, I view her member profile in LCR, and in the Household tab she is listed as Head of Household, in the family tab, is listed her non-member spouse, this is the only place that a non-member spouse is tracked? If this is a true assumption how is it done?

2. Also I have read that it is recommended to ask the permission of parents/guardians to have a "child of record" created for those that are under the age of 7. Or is it 8 or 9? Do I understand that we are not to make children of records for those over age 8 or 9?

3. I am presently a WML and have been a clerk & Executive Secretary, I was under the impression that when I was a Exec. Secretary that our ward clerk did somehow make it so that the non-member would show in the directory. So if a non-member spouse shows up in a members profile, do they show up anywhere else?

Thank you for your help on these multiple questions!

1968leocomeeatabite wrote:1. So is it a true assumption that when I view a sister with a non-member spouse, I view her member profile in LCR, and in the Household tab she is listed as Head of Household, in the family tab, is listed her non-member spouse, this is the only place that a non-member spouse is tracked? If this is a true assumption how is it done?

The nonmember spouse information comes from the member spouse membership record. It is recorded in the member spouse marriage. That is the only place the nonmember spouse information is found or recorded.

1968leocomeeatabite wrote:2. Also I have read that it is recommended to ask the permission of parents/guardians to have a "child of record" created for those that are under the age of 7. Or is it 8 or 9? Do I understand that we are not to make children of records for those over age 8 or 9?

See General Handbook, 33.6.2. Those under age 9 who have been blessed but not baptized should have a membership record created.
A membership record may be created for unblessed children under 8 when (1) at least one parent or one grandparent is a member of the Church and (2) both parents give permission for a record to be created.
The only way a membership record can be created for someone over 9 years of age is for them to be baptized and confirmed. Note that a person age 9 or older who has a membership record but has not been baptized and confirmed is not considered a member of record. This is a case where the record was created when the person was under the age of 8 but the person was not baptized and confirmed before the age of 9.

1968leocomeeatabite wrote:3.I was under the impression that when I was a Exec. Secretary that our ward clerk did somehow make it so that the non-member would show in the directory.

A ward clerk can, at the request of the member and the nonmember spouse, contact the membership department through the GSD to have the nonmember spouse name be included in the online Directory along with the member spouse's name. This will also appear in the Member Tools directory.

1968leocomeeatabite wrote:So if a non-member spouse shows up in a members profile, do they show up anywhere else?

No. The only exception is when the special request mentioned above is made.

Thank you for your help! I will pass this along to my membership & Ward Clerk! This will help us out greatly! AWESOME!