Missionary not listed in Ward Missionary List

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#1
I have a Grand Daughter who has been in the mission home for three weeks. She is not listed in her Ward as a missionary in the Ward Missionary Account. The Ward clerk/Bishop says it a Salt Lake issue, Salt Lake says it a Bishop issue. I would like to donate to her mission, but I can not since she is not listed in the Ward Missionary Account. Her father has asked the Bishop to call Salt Lake, but nothing has happened. Is there some way I can donate since nothing is happening with her home ward records?
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#2
The funding account is created at about the same time the mission call is issued, so she should be listed as a missionary in the online donation system before she gets to the MTC. I just verified that our ward's two missionaries who have not yet entered the MTC are listed.

The first step would be for the clerk to go to the Missionary Recommendation System and verify that his unit is the funding unit for her mission. He should see her listed in the "Entered the MTC" section of the list. If there is a link at the right side of the list that says "Other Units," he should click on that link and verify that the funding unit is his unit.

If the funding unit is not correct, the bishop or clerk needs to call the Global Service Center to have her information updated so that their ward is the funding ward.
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#3
If she was attending a different ward when she started her mission application, it's entirely possible that ward has been "tagged' as the funding ward.

Either way, it's something the bishop or clerk will have to fix. In the meantime, I'd suggest donating to the "Ward Missionary Fund". The clerk can transfer the funds later after the account is set up.
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#4
russellhltn wrote:In the meantime, I'd suggest donating to the "Ward Missionary Fund". The clerk can transfer the funds later after the account is set up.
This will only work if the donor and the missionary are in the same ward, since there's no way to donate to the generic Ward Missionary Fund in a different ward.
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#5
sbradshaw wrote:This will only work if the donor and the missionary are in the same ward, since there's no way to donate to the generic Ward Missionary Fund in a different ward.
True. It also assumes that the ward donated to will become the one that becomes financially responsible for that missionary.
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#6
It is possible, assuming the missionary is serving in the same country as the donor, to get that missionary added to the donors ward missionary list. It will be necessary to go through GSC, via the ward clerk, to implement this. I was only made aware of this, earlier this year, for a member who wished to donate to a relative in another ward.
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#7
sbradshaw wrote:
russellhltn wrote:In the meantime, I'd suggest donating to the "Ward Missionary Fund". The clerk can transfer the funds later after the account is set up.
This will only work if the donor and the missionary are in the same ward, since there's no way to donate to the generic Ward Missionary Fund in a different ward.
I haven't tested it, but "Ward Missionary Fund" is an option after you select a different ward.
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#8
Biggles wrote:It is possible, assuming the missionary is serving in the same country as the donor, to get that missionary added to the donors ward missionary list. It will be necessary to go through GSC, via the ward clerk, to implement this. I was only made aware of this, earlier this year, for a member who wished to donate to a relative in another ward.
If you're talking about transferring the unit financially responsible, that is true. It doesn't have to be the same unit as the records reside in. It would be best to be a part of the ward of the primary donor.

As far as I know, it's not possible to have the missionary show up in more than one ward's financial system. I think OP simply wants to assist, but I could be wrong.
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#9
russellhltn wrote:
Biggles wrote:It is possible, assuming the missionary is serving in the same country as the donor, to get that missionary added to the donors ward missionary list. It will be necessary to go through GSC, via the ward clerk, to implement this. I was only made aware of this, earlier this year, for a member who wished to donate to a relative in another ward.
If you're talking about transferring the unit financially responsible, that is true. It doesn't have to be the same unit as the records reside in. It would be best to be a part of the ward of the primary donor.

As far as I know, it's not possible to have the missionary show up in more than one ward's financial system. I think OP simply wants to assist, but I could be wrong.
To clear up any misunderstanding. I’m not talking about transferring the units financial responsibility, I’m talking about the missionary appearing in another wards full time Ward Missionary list. I know this is possible, because I carried this out earlier in the year in my own ward, with assistance from the GSC.
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#10
Biggles wrote:To clear up any misunderstanding. I’m not talking about transferring the units financial responsibility, I’m talking about the missionary appearing in another wards full time Ward Missionary list.
Right. But I think we're talking apples and oranges. OP wants to donate to the account, not just see it on the ward directory.
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russellhltn wrote:
Biggles wrote:To clear up any misunderstanding. I’m not talking about transferring the units financial responsibility, I’m talking about the missionary appearing in another wards full time Ward Missionary list.
Right. But I think we're talking apples and oranges. OP wants to donate to the account, not just see it on the ward directory.
I’ve not mentioned the ward directory anywhere in my previous posts on this matter. I’m talking about the Ward Missionary donation list. I’m stating that it is possible to donate to that particular missionary’s account, with the help of the GSC to enable the facility.. I repeat, I have done this in my own ward, this year!

As an afterthought. Unlike the US, here in the UK we aren’t able to make online donations. In MLS, the Ward category had the missionary’s name added to our drop down list. The procedure I’ve explained might not be an option for a country that has the ability to make online donations. Hence the confusion.
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#12
Biggles wrote:I’m talking about the Ward Missionary donation list. I’m stating that it is possible to donate to that particular missionary’s account,
with the help of the GSC to enable the facility.. I repeat, I have done this in my own ward, this year!
Without being the unit financially responsible? How does that work?
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#13
russellhltn wrote:
Biggles wrote:I’m talking about the Ward Missionary donation list. I’m stating that it is possible to donate to that particular missionary’s account,
with the help of the GSC to enable the facility.. I repeat, I have done this in my own ward, this year!
Without being the unit financially responsible? How does that work?
I don’t know, but the GSC has the know how to implement. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I didn’t know that this was possible, until I called them. GSC required the full name of the missionary and the ward that has the financial responsibility. Although I was advised that it might take a couple of days to happen, from calling the GSC it actually took under an hour for the missionary’s name to appear.
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#14
Right, but how does it function? Do funds deposited there immediately get swept? Or, are they withdrawing a fixed amount (half?) for the missionary?
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The full donated amount is immediately transferred to the relevant missionary’s account. Effectively the ward making the donation is just an intermediary in the process.
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#16
Biggles wrote:The full donated amount is immediately transferred to the relevant missionary’s account. Effectively the ward making the donation is just an intermediary in the process.
Cool! Although, with on-line donations it seems to be of limited use. If it could go between countries, it would really be something. However, OP is having problems locating the missionary's account, suggesting it's not where it should be.
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#17
scgallafent wrote:
sbradshaw wrote:
russellhltn wrote:In the meantime, I'd suggest donating to the "Ward Missionary Fund". The clerk can transfer the funds later after the account is set up.
This will only work if the donor and the missionary are in the same ward, since there's no way to donate to the generic Ward Missionary Fund in a different ward.
I haven't tested it, but "Ward Missionary Fund" is an option after you select a different ward.
I have tested it. When I used my daughter's ward in a neighboring stake, I could donate to any of her ward's missionaries or to the "Ward Missionary Fund."
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#18
Any insight on how to add a missionary's name to the list of missionaries serving so that people can donate to that person?
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#19
David.prince wrote:Any insight on how to add a missionary's name to the list of missionaries serving so that people can donate to that person?
Assuming your ward is the one financially responsible, it happens automatically right around the time the missionary enters the MTC, but no later than when the first payment is due.
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russellhltn wrote:
David.prince wrote:Any insight on how to add a missionary's name to the list of missionaries serving so that people can donate to that person?
Assuming your ward is the one financially responsible, it happens automatically right around the time the missionary enters the MTC, but no later than when the first payment is due.
You cannot add it, as I understand. If you believe it should be there and it is not, something is amiss that the Service Center will probably have to assist with. The Ward/Branch clerk can make that request for assistance.