Temple Ordinances

I have been doing my Family History and found that some of the Temple Ordinances which were done by late mother did in 1973, are been requested to be done again?
I am not sure why this is, and what I should do?

The first thing is to search for duplicate people. The ordinances may be attached to that record. Once you combine the records, the ordinances will be complete and the request canceled.

If you can't find any duplicates, then I'd suggest attachi9ng source records. You may bump into the duplicate that way.

Agreed. I figure I can do more temple work by merging duplicate records in a day than if folks sit in temple sessions all month.

Thank you for your replies
There are no duplicates to merge has I have done this many times with other members of my family.
I have also found that work my late mother recorded as been done on the old PAF are being done by other people who have linked to my family tree. I am not sure how they can request to do the work when it has already been done.....does that all make sense only by brain is getting very confused with it all.

muscidamyst wrote:I have been doing my Family History and found that some of the Temple Ordinances which were done by late mother did in 1973, are been requested to be done again?
I am not sure why this is, and what I should do?

If it is a case of a recently deceased member, who received their ordinances while living, the ordinance work is attached to the church record, & will appear in the system when the clerk enters the death. If you are worried about duplication, simply reserve the name to prevent it from being done. When the completed ordinances attach, the reservation will disappear.

Unless the ordinance was lost somewhere, it should still be out there as a duplicate record. You may need to do some searches to find it. Otherwise you'll have to contact FH support through the website help function.

muscidamyst wrote:Thank you for your replies
There are no duplicates to merge has I have done this many times with other members of my family.
I have also found that work my late mother recorded as been done on the old PAF are being done by other people who have linked to my family tree. I am not sure how they can request to do the work when it has already been done.....does that all make sense only by brain is getting very confused with it all.

If the work has been recorded as complete on familyTree, the system should not allow them to request the work to be done again. It sounds to me like you have a personal genealogy program (PAF or otherwise) that indicates the work has been done. However, if the work doesn't show as being done on FamilyTree, the system will allow other relatives to reserve the names.

If you KNOW the work has been done but it doesn't show on your ancestor's record on FamilyTree, there is a high likelihood that there is a duplicate record somewhere but the system may not recognize it automatically due to subtle differences in the two records. I have occasionally found some that were duplicates but did not show up on the find a duplicate option so I had to compare them using the two record numbers (on the find a duplicate tool, you can add the record number of a potential duplicate, once you have it, if nothing pops up automatically).

If the people have common names, the names may have been merged with another person of the same name in the past, then split out again later or recreated. Sometimes the ordinances are left with the other person and are incorrect. I have submitted requests in the past to FamilySearch, asking them to restore the earlier ordinances, especially if I have proof - like an old family group sheet from the archives section of the Family Group Record Collection which is now online. or the original ordinance card on which I had done the work myself - I have seen instances where my old Pennsylvania Quaker ancestors who used mostly "Bible" names have been incorrectly merged and sometimes ended up with 6 or more wives, all but one of which belonged with various other people of the same name. I heard in a talk given by a FamilySearch employee who said that early on, FamilySearch was using an algorithm which was incorrectly combining people and messed up the system. This has been a nightmare for me to correct.

Marianjohnson, thank you for your explanation, I think this possibly what is happening. I have been having a lot of this happening, as I have members of my family that have the name John, e.g. John Quinn, John Henshaw, etc, it even gets confusing for me which one I am following as their fathers all have the same name too. I went on a couple of my families records and there were three wives all marrying the same person almost on the same year.....very confusing. I think I have a lot of researching t do.

My husband and I just got married and are moving to another state. Would we be able to use our Living Ordinance Recommend for our Sealing in another state or would we need to meet with our future bishop and stake president and get a new one in our new state? We are going to get sealed in the state we are moving to.

HollyRollins wrote:My husband and I just got married and are moving to another state. Would we be able to use our Living Ordinance Recommend for our Sealing in another state or would we need to meet with our future bishop and stake president and get a new one in our new state? We are going to get sealed in the state we are moving to.

I'd think they're good at any temple. But do check and see if there's an expiration date on that.

HollyRollins wrote:My husband and I just got married and are moving to another state. Would we be able to use our Living Ordinance Recommend for our Sealing in another state or would we need to meet with our future bishop and stake president and get a new one in our new state? We are going to get sealed in the state we are moving to.

You'll need to call the temple to set an appointment for your sealing. When you call, the temple might be able to answer your question.

Getting a recommend and then getting sealed in a different state is a fairly common occurrence. (Think about all of the college students who get recommends in their YSA wards.) You shouldn't have any issues.

The only thing to watch out for is that you have your interview with the bishop and stake president in the same stake. Changing stakes in the middle of that process can cause problems.

Also, be aware that when you got for a temple interview, if you've been in the unit less than one year, the bishop has to check with your prior bishop.

As such, I'd think you'd be better off getting the recommend before you move, since afterwards there will be an added step to the process.

Where can we check online to see when our Temple recommend expires ?

Kingram52 wrote:Where can we check online to see when our Temple recommend expires ?

Online access is in the Ward Directory. Click your household, then click your name. At the bottom of the pane with your name and contact information are three tabs: Membership Information, Ministering, and Callings and Classes. Select the Membership Information tab and scroll down to see your temple recommend status and expiration date below the Temple Recommend section title.

You can also see your own recommend expiration date in Member Tools.

lajackson wrote:You can also see your own recommend expiration date in Member Tools.

And in Member Tools you can set a reminder that "it will expire in: 2 weeks, 4 weeks, 6 weeks, or 8 weeks." To set the reminder, go to Settings and scroll down near the bottom (on the Android version). iOS should be similar but I don't have iOS to check.

If someone was supposedly baptized but I can’t find a baptismal record, does that mean they may have been excommunicated (I know that’s old term, sorry)? The individual’s life is such that they may have been excommunicated, but no one in the family knows. Should we do their baptismal work or nah?

dillonkunz wrote:If someone was supposedly baptized but I can’t find a baptismal record, does that mean they may have been excommunicated (I know that’s old term, sorry)? The individual’s life is such that they may have been excommunicated, but no one in the family knows.

Possible, but depending on the birth date, they might not be recorded as deceased yet. Until the church records them as deceased, I would not expect their membership information to transfer to FamilySearch. If they've been away from the church, their death may not have been recorded.

I've seen issues with getting baptisms from the pre-computer era recorded in FamilySearch.

Birth was 1945, death was 2019. How do I find anything conclusive on this?

You might want to contact FamilySearch support.

Based on the birth date, the church wouldn't assume he's deceased. So unless a clerk recorded his death, they still consider him alive.