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I was just reading about it yesterday, it is an intriguing concept.
Google Wave?
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Demo here: http://wave.google.com/
I'd like to see how it would integrate with traditional email and newsgroups as there will need to be some transition.
I'd like to see how it would integrate with traditional email and newsgroups as there will need to be some transition.
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This is the same link as the one in the first post.RussellHltn wrote:Demo here: [url=http://wave.google.com/]http://wave.google.com/[/URL]
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Oh, I didn't even see the link. I googled for more information.mkmurray wrote:This is the same link as the one in the first post.
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Wow, I agree about the link in the 1st post. It's nearly undetectable without mousing over it.
I'm pretty impressed with their real-time translator. A few more iterations and we might start seeing inklings of our own "Universal Translator".
I'm pretty impressed with their real-time translator. A few more iterations and we might start seeing inklings of our own "Universal Translator".
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I've gone ahead and made the link more noticeable.RussellHltn wrote:Oh, I didn't even see the link. I googled for more information.
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Cheers for thatmkmurray wrote:I've gone ahead and made the link more noticeable.
It's cool though ehh? (Google Wave)
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OK, I've had a few hours to think about and digest the demo.
I see it as a powerful collaboration tool that holds a lot of promise. One thing I didn't see is how well it supports the multiple roles that people have. Most individuals have at least two roles: Home and work. It's unusual for someone to be using the same email address for both.
One thing I noticed about Wave is that it allowed a company to set up their own server to secure their conversations. But I'm wondering how this supports multiple roles given that the client is a web browser? Does it allow individuals to have the equivalent of multiple email addresses without burdening their company's server with personal traffic or sending company conversations out to a public server? I see Wave as a direct threat to Outlook/Exchange. And Outlook does support multiple roles (email boxes) at the client end. Another thing that Outlook/Exchange has that I didn't see was calendering. Probably a minor thing to add, but something I think it will need.
The reason I ask is that could have a direct affect on if and how the church would implement such a system. I think the idea of collaboration in a secure environment is going to be very attractive to the church, but how it works in practice depends on how it supports multiple roles for the user while maintaining security.
I see it as a powerful collaboration tool that holds a lot of promise. One thing I didn't see is how well it supports the multiple roles that people have. Most individuals have at least two roles: Home and work. It's unusual for someone to be using the same email address for both.
One thing I noticed about Wave is that it allowed a company to set up their own server to secure their conversations. But I'm wondering how this supports multiple roles given that the client is a web browser? Does it allow individuals to have the equivalent of multiple email addresses without burdening their company's server with personal traffic or sending company conversations out to a public server? I see Wave as a direct threat to Outlook/Exchange. And Outlook does support multiple roles (email boxes) at the client end. Another thing that Outlook/Exchange has that I didn't see was calendering. Probably a minor thing to add, but something I think it will need.
The reason I ask is that could have a direct affect on if and how the church would implement such a system. I think the idea of collaboration in a secure environment is going to be very attractive to the church, but how it works in practice depends on how it supports multiple roles for the user while maintaining security.
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The first thing that springs to mind on the multiple roles thing, is to ask why are you conducting personal business at work? Most companies I have worked for prohibit that, so why would you want multiple identities?
Taking off the sourpuss hat though
And knowing that most people do that anyway, I think multiple identities would just be handled how google mail currently handles it. Just have it pick up several accounts, have rules that put tags on the different accounts as they come in so you can identify them, and use the 'reply as' option.
Either that or just login to different accounts as you need them, I don't see it as a big problem. And I agree with you, this is a compelling alternative to Exchange, if they add calendering, which should be trivial. I think what this has over other Exchange alternatives is that it is not just an Exchange clone like Groupwise or Zimbra, it is bringing some compelling and innovative features to the table.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out, both in how it develops and is taken up by people, also how Microsoft, Novell and IBM respond to it.
Taking off the sourpuss hat though
And knowing that most people do that anyway, I think multiple identities would just be handled how google mail currently handles it. Just have it pick up several accounts, have rules that put tags on the different accounts as they come in so you can identify them, and use the 'reply as' option.Either that or just login to different accounts as you need them, I don't see it as a big problem. And I agree with you, this is a compelling alternative to Exchange, if they add calendering, which should be trivial. I think what this has over other Exchange alternatives is that it is not just an Exchange clone like Groupwise or Zimbra, it is bringing some compelling and innovative features to the table.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out, both in how it develops and is taken up by people, also how Microsoft, Novell and IBM respond to it.
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I think most people would want their systems integrated. Way back when I took a Franklin class, they emphasized to only have one calendar and not multiple. Otherwise, sooner or later you're going to end up with a conflict. Maybe it's the day you have to drive back from a far-away customer that's the same night as your daughter's school play. With a single calendar, you'll spot that conflict much sooner.portseven wrote:The first thing that springs to mind on the multiple roles thing, is to ask why are you conducting personal business at work? Most companies I have worked for prohibit that, so why would you want multiple identities?
Again, I point out that Outlook can deal with multiple mailboxes very nicely. So anything that tries to push it out is likely to need to same functionality. But since this is software running in a browser, how will one client deal with multiple identities?
Edit: More to the point, and why I bring it up here, it would be nice for the church to host wave for unit leaders. That way bishoprics and stake presidencies can better correlate and in a secure environment. But for that it work, I think it would have to also integrate with one's personal "email/wave" system. Otherwise you end up with some one who checks their church wave every other week.
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It will be interesting to see how far they will open the API.RussellHltn wrote:More to the point, and why I bring it up here, it would be nice for the church to host wave for unit leaders. That way bishoprics and stake presidencies can better correlate and in a secure environment. But for that it work, I think it would have to also integrate with one's personal "email/wave" system. Otherwise you end up with some one who checks their church wave every other week.
One of the big things I can think would benefit unit and stake leaders would be if you create a meeting & task management system and then link it to Google Waves. You could extend Waves to include information about who something is assigned to, its parent dependency etc. Something simple and yet not too basic.