Translation Help Needed for Spanish & Portuguese!

Calling all Spanish and Portuguese speakers!

On the LDSTech wiki we have just posted an article called Meetinghouse Webcast. We need your help in translating these articles into Spanish and Portuguese. Anyone who can speak these languages can help. Do as little or as much as you can. Follow the links on the wiki page to either the Spanish or Portuguese pages and create the content. Please tell others who may speak these languages to help if they can. We have urgent need to get these documents translated!

If you have not done so, please follow the steps found here in order to participate on the wiki.

Thanks for your support with this effort!

Tom

Hi Tom, I translated the article to Portuguese. If any Portuguese speak person find problems in the translation, can correct with no problem. I added some litle things (like show if a document link is unavailable in Portuguese or add a litle instruction about LDS Catalog) to help people to understand resources don't available in Portuguese.
Thanks for the opportunity!

MorettiDP wrote:Hi Tom, I translated the article to Portuguese. If any Portuguese speak person find problems in the translation, can correct with no problem. I added some litle things (like show if a document link is unavailable in Portuguese or add a litle instruction about LDS Catalog) to help people to understand resources don't available in Portuguese.
Thanks for the opportunity!

"Ask, and ye shall receive."

That was an impressively quick response to this request. I don't speak Portuguese, but it certainly appears that you have done a very detailed, complete translation. This is the kind of response we hope for from the LDS Tech community, but I don't think anyone expected such an excellent effort so rapidly. Thank you for this wonderful service!

No problem! I am so happy in help the community! I can't write or speak a good English, but with a good dictionary I can translate easy. I am happy with this opportunity!

MorettiDP wrote:Hi Tom, I translated the article to Portuguese. If any Portuguese speak person find problems in the translation, can correct with no problem. I added some litle things (like show if a document link is unavailable in Portuguese or add a litle instruction about LDS Catalog) to help people to understand resources don't available in Portuguese.
Thanks for the opportunity!

Wow, thanks! You have done an excellent job! Nice work! Thanks so much for your support!

Tom

I just want to also say that because one individual made a first stab at the translation, I'm sure the Church wants others to read over it and help fix any areas that may need more accurate translation or rewording. It's a wiki page, so a group effort is definitely encouraged!

I'm going to state a personal opinion here (with no promises from Church employees or anything), but I imagine the more involved the participation and the more accurate the translation from everyone, then there will be a higher possibility of more translating projects for the Community in the future. Just a personal guess!

It's my original idea (but is rarely to find another Portuguese speaking person at the forum...)

I want to thank everyone who has helped so far! The response has been tremendous. I will echo what has been said in that the more people who review and contribute, the better the translation.

Also, I may note that it is perfectly OK to modify the document and put in a section that may be regional. For example, Spanish in Mexico may be different than Spanish in Peru. So there could be regional differences in the translation.

Tom

Why not in Italian?

marianomarini_vi wrote:Why not in Italian?

More languages will come. The clerks support group and the translation department decided to start with these two languages first.

Thanks for everyone's help on these documents.

Tom

marianomarini_vi wrote:Why not in Italian?

True,

Hope they open the floodgates soon and let things run. It should only take the 'official' paid translators a few minutes to check a page since they're not very long pages.

charly3358 wrote:True,

Hope they open the floodgates soon and let things run. It should only take the 'official' paid translators a few minutes to check a page since they're not very long pages.

And if they are too busy there are also "volonteer translator" (like me) ready to help.

The article I posted on the wiki and asked for the translations was a test to figure out a process both externally and internally. As we refine the process, we will open more languages and documents. Thank you for everyone's help so far!

Tom

I have noticed some more translated articles have been added to the wiki. I think it would help if an agreed process/system of linking between the english and non-english articles in the wiki was set out.

A proposal that I put forward to be discussed:

Unless the plan is to have seperate MediaWiki installations for each language, I suggest that a simple way is agreed to offer links to translated version of an article. This could be done by way of hatnotes (my preference) or include them in an infobox. IMO Hatnotes would be better as the article may already include an infobox for another reason. A template could be developed to be used when inserting the hatnote.

cottrells wrote:Unless the plan is to have seperate MediaWiki installations for each language, I suggest that a simple way is agreed to offer links to translated version of an article. This could be done by way of hatnotes (my preference) or include them in an infobox. IMO Hatnotes would be better as the article may already include an infobox for another reason. A template could be developed to be used when inserting the hatnote.

Thanks for raising this issue -- I was just about to do so myself.

In order to make a good decision, it would be helpful to know if the latest flurry of pages being translated into Spanish is just one person's independent contribution, or if it is part of an actual plan to translate pages. The fact that the Main Page was recently translated seems to indicate that this is an ambitious project, official or not.

If we are going to have translations for a large portion of the pages, then we would be better off with a MediaWiki installation for each language, linking articles with interlanguage links. I suspect that we will get to that point eventually.

But in the meantime, I support the idea of hatnotes generated by a template. The template could generate something like:

This English language article is also available in Spanish and Portuguese.

The template in Spanish or Portuguese could also add the category automatically for the Spanish Pages or Portuguese Pages caegories.

Alan_Brown wrote:In order to make a good decision, it would be helpful to know if the latest flurry of pages being translated into Spanish is just one person's independent contribution, or if it is part of an actual plan to translate pages. The fact that the Main Page was recently translated seems to indicate that this is an ambitious project, official or not.

I have been talking with Tom about this and he said that the "clerks team" was working on translating some selected pages (or perhaps he meant that they had in the past) and that "Stake Technology Specialist" page was one of them, which was put up recently. But this recent Main Page translation is indeed an odd one for them to do. I haven't heard back from Tom after informing him of the Main Page translation.

I personally think the current link between English to Spanish on the "Stake Technology Specialist" page is a bit awkward, and this hatbox proposal would probably be better.

mkmurray wrote:I have been talking with Tom about this and he said that the "clerks team" was working on translating some selected pages (or perhaps he meant that they had in the past) and that "Stake Technology Specialist" page was one of them, which was put up recently. But this recent Main Page translation is indeed an odd one for them to do. I haven't heard back from Tom after informing him of the Main Page translation.

Thanks for following up on this. I'll be interested to see what the plan is.

mkmurray wrote:this hatbox proposal would probably be better.

Hatboxes are exceedingly useful for containing hats, but I think hatnotes would work better in this case.

Alan_Brown wrote:Hatboxes are exceedingly useful for containing hats, but I think hatnotes would work better in this case.

LOL, oops. :p

Alan_Brown wrote:Hatboxes are exceedingly useful for containing hats, but I think hatnotes would work better in this case.

Is that anything like a hat trick?