Side-by-side dual language scripture display app

In our stake, we have a sizable Spanish-language population, plus Lao-speakers, a growing population of Congolese Swahili, and Haitian French. As stake clerk, I observe with great care our translators their work, and our tech clerk has done a bang-up job assembling excellent equipment for the task. I've been trying to make sure, following a suggestion from one of our translators, that there's a translation assistant to look up scriptures so the translator isn't slowed by having to look them up his or herself.

Up to this time, two sets of scriptures have been required. I thought that this would be a perfect application of current technology to display two languages side-by-side of LDS scriptures, with synchronized scrolling. An ability to quickly bookmark referenced scriptures would be very helpful when we can get advanced copies of the talks (not always possible) so the translator and assistant can quickly move from one scripture to the next. Unfortunately, the current Gospel Library implementation, wonderful as it is, is slow to randomly go from one scripture to another, thought with enough advance time, a notebook entry can help by having the referenced scriptures tagged in it.

Has this idea been thought of or brought up before? I did a look for keywords, and little showed up, so I'm starting this thread. Feel free to move it elsewhere if this isn't the correct thread for it, even though, for us, it's about conferences.

You may want to check out the Gospel Library Beta (testing) App for Windows 10 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p ... zdncrdfdcd as you can open up multiple Windows and tabs and bookmark scriptures.

Hmm... thanks! I'll see if we can check that out.
I was looking for something for something Apple-flavored.

You could always run Windows 10 on a something like bootcamp on a Macbook and then either run 2 instances of the release version of Gospel Library or 1 release version of the gospel library app and 1 instance of the gospel library beta app side by side or one on top of the other. Doing it this way at least the hardware is Apple -flavored.

There are also online options – for example, the multi-column study tool on Scripture Tools:
http://scripturetools.net/study/scriptu ... &v=details
(I run the Scripture Tools website)

It's a wrapper for the scripture pages on LDS.org, so it supports the LDS.org study tools; and you can use the up and down arrow keys on your keyboard to keep the scrolling in sync.

There's http://uandt.net

Click the hamburger menu at the top right, then click the gear icon and pick the left and right languages.

Spanish and English: http://mormono.com/spanish/

hmqcnoesy wrote:There's http://uandt.net

Click the hamburger menu at the top right, then click the gear icon and pick the left and right languages.

Fabulous! This is exactly the ticket! I'll post about how well it works.

strago wrote:Spanish and English: http://mormono.com/spanish/

We will try this out! Thank you very much!

carsonm wrote:You could always run Windows 10 on a something like bootcamp on a Macbook and then either run 2 instances of the release version of Gospel Library or 1 release version of the gospel library app and 1 instance of the gospel library beta app side by side or one on top of the other. Doing it this way at least the hardware is Apple -flavored.

We were looking something device-capable, iPads or the like. Devoting a computer (an Apple, no less) to run Windows, to run two instances of the app (is the non-device [phone or pad] app available for desktops and laptops?) is quite a bit, a lightweight client like http://uandt.net, or something designed for devices, or the iPad or other pad device would be much easier, considering space constraints, and cost -- devices are becoming ubiquitous, and this is just one more thing they can do.

sbradshaw wrote:There are also online options – for example, the multi-column study tool on Scripture Tools:
http://scripturetools.net/study/scriptu ... &v=details
(I run the Scripture Tools website)

It's a wrapper for the scripture pages on LDS.org, so it supports the LDS.org study tools; and you can use the up and down arrow keys on your keyboard to keep the scrolling in sync.

Samuel, this is absolutely fabulous. I've been released as clerk, but I will try to report back on how well it works. Woo-hoo!

Both columns just showing error message for the scripture tools URL. It would be nice if you could have two columns to look at all four standard works

jer15.16_mbt wrote:Both columns just showing error message for the scripture tools URL. It would be nice if you could have two columns to look at all four standard works

The Scripture Tools study tool was using embedded pages from the Church website (in <iframe>s) for its content. Sadly, when the scriptures switched over from Scriptures.ChurchofJesusChrist.org to Study.ChurchofJesusChrist.org, this stopped working because Study.ChurchofJesusChrist.org has a strict same-origin policy that blocks other sites from embedding its content in an <iframe>. I've tried sending feedback using the Feedback link at the bottom of the Church website, but no luck so far. I'm guessing embedding content in <iframe>s isn't a common enough use case for it to rise in priority (but if more people send feedback, maybe they'll look at it again! ).

The Scripture Tools study tool was using embedded pages from the Church website (in <iframe>s) for its content. Sadly, when the scriptures switched over from Scriptures.ChurchofJesusChrist.org to Study.ChurchofJesusChrist.org, this stopped working because Study.ChurchofJesusChrist.org has a strict same-origin policy that blocks other sites from embedding its content in an <iframe>. I've tried sending feedback using the Feedback link at the bottom of the Church website, but no luck so far. I'm guessing embedding content in <iframe>s isn't a common enough use case for it to rise in priority (but if more people send feedback, maybe they'll look at it again! ).

Sam, I really appreciate your work in this!

Granted, there are “relatively” few potential users (stake conferences in the San Diego and many other stakes in this area — the whole county, plus part of Imperial and Southern Riverside counties), which is 15 stakes, maximum. What would needed to be added would be demonstrating the usefulness of such a tool. Many stakes in California, Arizona, and New Mexico could benefit, plus areas where the Restored Gospel has caught hold in immigrant areas.

I will try sending feedback on a scripture page for this.