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#1
We have a members child, who passed away recently. The child was BIC, but wasn't baptised for reasons of health. The death was recorded in LCR.

What is the time period before this is reflected in FamilySearch?

Any advice on what to do, if anything, would be much appreciated.
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#2
Biggles wrote:We have a members child, who passed away recently. The child was BIC, but wasn't baptised for reasons of health. The death was recorded in LCR.

What is the time period before this is reflected in FamilySearch?
I don't know precisely, but I've had experience with several cases, and it seems to be available on FamilySearch within a day or so -- never more than two days.

Note that the record may not be connected to living records, so you would need to use the Find feature to find the record.
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#3
Thank you for your quick reply. The child in question passed away in mid October this year. I'm asking this question on behalf of one of the parents.

In my search of the Family Tree (IOS) app, the death is registered. In FamilySearch there is no indication of the death, only the Birth record, hence my question. I don't think the parent has used the Family Tree app, but before I go back to them I would like to be able to put their minds at rest.
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#4
Biggles wrote:Thank you for your quick reply. The child in question passed away in mid October this year. I'm asking this question on behalf of one of the parents.

In my search of the Family Tree (IOS) app, the death is registered. In FamilySearch there is no indication of the death, only the Birth record, hence my question. I don't think the parent has used the Family Tree app, but before I go back to them I would like to be able to put their minds at rest.
The Family Tree mobile apps show the same information that is on the FamilySearch.org website. So it's hard to imagine that you could look at a person on the mobile app and see a death registered, but not see that on FamilySearch.org, unless you are looking at different records. Look carefully at the ID number associated with each person you are looking at to make sure they are the same record. If they are not the same record, then you should merge the two records.

There's another thing that is odd about what you are describing: except for living persons that you have added, you can only see persons on the Family Tree that are deceased. Even if there are no details recorded about the death, at the very least a deceased person will show "Deceased" for the death vital information. If you have records or personal knowledge of details about the death, you can certainly supply them. That will help increase the accuracy of the records.
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#5
Well I've double checked the results for the death of the child against another known death and the child's death is not listed in FamilySearch. Whereas the other known person, who died several years ago, their death is listed.

FWIW - I was the one who registered the death, in LCR, actually on the day the child passed away.

Which brings me back to my original question, how long does FamilySearch take to display a death?
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#6
Biggles wrote:Well I've double checked the results for the death of the child against another known death and the child's death is not listed in FamilySearch. Whereas the other known person, who died several years ago, their death is listed.
Is the child that recently passed away listed in FamilySearch at all?
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#7
Only the birth record.
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#8
Biggles wrote:Only the birth record.
I'm sure if you look, it will be marked as "deceased". It may lack a death date, but unless the child is dead, they're not going to appear in FamilySearch.

The only way living people appear is if you manually add them. When that happens, they only appear in your tree. You haven't mentioned any relationship with this family, so I tend to doubt if you've added the child.
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#9
Wild theory - Are you sure you're looking at the person and not a source? Since you say it's a child who recently passed away, I can't imagine that a source record would be in FS, but it's not completely impossible.
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#10
Biggles wrote:Which brings me back to my original question, how long does FamilySearch take to display a death?
Normally within a few days, in my experience. So be sure to check out the other suggestions that have been made in this topic.
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#11
The confusion has been resolved. Biggles provided some information to me via private message that helped me to determine that he was looking at document records (under Search > Records) rather than a person (under Family Tree > Find).

It turns out that the person in Family Tree was indeed properly updated and is visible (because it is a deceased person) and has the death date properly recorded. According to the details on the person, the death appears to have been added 5 days after the death (and Biggles mentioned that he personally recorded the death in LCR on the very date of the person's death). Five days is longer than I've ever seen in my experience, but it was indeed recorded properly.
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#12
lajackson wrote:
Biggles wrote:Which brings me back to my original question, how long does FamilySearch take to display a death?
Normally within a few days, in my experience. So be sure to check out the other suggestions that have been made in this topic.
Its been more than 1.5 months since the details were recorded.
Someone else, on the forum, has kindly offered to check it out for me.

Update!
This is a paraphrased answer of what has been found, so my understanding of that may not be entirely accurate.

The FamilySearch source, using the Search function, uses the official government records for the information. As far as I know, the government system works on a three month cycle, so probably the updated record won't appear until next January/February time. Family Tree, however uses the Church membership records as its initial source, which would explain the information there.

Thanks to everyone for their input. I will now be able to explain to the concerned parent what the situation is!
#13
I know this is an old post, but the question is, did the OP talk to Family Search to get any of his questions answered? It is amazing how many questions can be answered when we ask the people whose job it is to answer those questions.