MacPAF

A few of us who are on the Macintosh side of things use Reunion 8 but it has not been updated in a few years. We reviewed it on our website at http://www.maccompanion.com back in 2003 or 2004.

Logan Allred has been busy trying to get PAF functionality working in Mac OS X and is stuck at the beta 4 release and he asked for help. He uses Cocoa as the development app to do the "look-and-feel" of PAF for the Mac.

http://homepage.mac.com/logan/MacPAF/
http://homepage.mac.com/logan/iblog/MacPAF/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/macpaf/

I copied this post over into the [thread=228]LDS Open Source Projects[/thread] thread.

Tom

Not to try to make a nuisance of myself, but in case it might be helpful...

For those with X86-based Macs, there's a possibility the WINE program may be (close to) working well enough to run PAF itself. PAF 5 installs and runs very well on WINE on Linux. The AppDB page is at http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1706. The WINE FAQ has a note since many months ago that estimated it was six months away from working pretty well on X86-based Macs.

Has somebody tried recently to use PAF 5 under WINE on an x86-based Mac?

Wine does run on Intel Macintosh computers running Mac OS X, but not very well. Right now it is only targeted at developers.

However, there are programs that will allow you to run Windows or Linux on you Mac such as Parallels, Q and Boot Camp.

Parallels runs windows so well, I've stopped using my PC. PAF works really well on it, the only downside is that your running it in windows and using a great deal of RAM to do it. Parallels recently added a feature called Coherence which basically allows you to run the windows apps right inside your mac desktop, however windows is still running in the background, it's just hidden. It's definately getting better!

There is also a product out there called crossover for the Mac which I think utilizes WINE. Has anyone tried this yet?

Crossover for Mac somehow slipped my mind when I posted my comment. So yes, Wine does run on Mac as long as you are running it through Crossover which costs money. I don't know how well it works. As for Parallels, I use it as my primary operating system at work and it is indeed very impressive. Parallels does cost money, but it is at least reasonably priced.

Tomj wrote:Parallels recently added a feature called Coherence which basically allows you to run the windows apps right inside your mac desktop...

LOL, I just saw a screenshot of this in PCWorld magazine yesterday...and I must say it was quite disturbing! They had Safari running there on the OS X desktop with a Windows Media Player window right beside it. I was like, "Wait...what's going on?!"

I must admit, it looked slick!

Just Hearing the windows chime at Startup on the Mac is sort of freaky! But I've found it very useful. I can use google talk and PAF, and not to mention Spider Solitair!

They have also modified parallels so that It can utilize the Bootcamp Partition of the Mac, so if your using bootcamp to run windows you don't have to restart the machine and boot into windows. It's pretty nice, but It would be nicer just to have a native Mac version

Tomj wrote:Spider Solitaire

See, Windows is good for something!

I'm posting this only for accuracy not for any endorsement. Leister Production just released a new upgrade this month. See features at:

http://www.leisterpro.com/doc/version9/ ... atures.php

I can confirm that PAF does work in Crossover for the most part. There are a few minor bugs.

On a side note, Its good to see that there is a community of Mac users in the Church.

We will be presenting a review of CrossOver (about the same price as Parallels) in the April issue of macCompanion magazine (I own and publish it) but I found this today -

If you have a MacTel and CodeWeaver's CrossOver, PAF works -

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibilit ... app_id=267

This is not a free upgrade from Reunion 8.

Chris Forsythe and Evan Schoenberg, (Lead Dev on Adium) worked on this app for doing Family without GEDCOM -

http://saltatory.com/

pritchet1 wrote:We will be presenting a review of CrossOver (about the same price as Parallels) in the April issue of macCompanion magazine (I own and publish it) but I found this today -

If you have a MacTel and CodeWeaver's CrossOver, PAF works -

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibilit ... app_id=267

For anyone who might be trying to get PAF to work on an X86-based Macintosh under regular Wine (zero cost), if there are PAF-specific issues, the AppDB page for PAF 5 on Wine is http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1706. I'm a volunteer maintainer of that page, but I use Linux exclusively. If someone who uses Macintosh systems wanted to join as another maintainer, I'm sure that would be a good thing. Thanks to Clinton Stimpson's great efforts, PAF 5 now works under Wine on Linux well enough for basically all practical purposes. It'd be great to get it to that point on Mac as well.

pritchet1 wrote:Chris Forsythe and Evan Schoenberg, (Lead Dev on Adium) worked on this app for doing Family without GEDCOM -

http://saltatory.com/

It's too bad this doesn't interface with GEDCOM, perhaps we as a community could contact them and let them know we want GEDCOM. The interface is very pleasing, and the price is very resonable.

Nice Find.

I was just informed that PAF 5 works fairly well on X86-based Macs using Wine and the X11 compatibility layer Apple provides. I'm told there are some font issues that are unique to the Mac situation, but I don't know how serious they might be. There is some information now (and maybe more in the future) on the Wine AppDB page: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1706

It works in Paralels as well (version 2.1 and 3.0) much rather have a native Mac OS application.

I got PAF working on my Intel Mac yesterday using Darwine (free vs. CrossOver) and posted instructions here. I was going to post them in this thread, but it got a bit long.

http://tech.lds.org/forum/showthread.php?t=632

-- Michael Moore

Another alternative which I use is iFamily for Tiger (and Leopard).

I think their website is http://www.ifamilyfortiger.com

It costs about $30 but seems to be a pretty good app for us Mac people.

Does Gamps work on Mac? If it does, it's free-of-charge.

My guess is that, if not already dead, this project will be soon. Apple has decided to kill any type of java-cocoa based support including completely deprecating the java-objective c bridge.

Freeware --- versions for OS 9 and OSX
Processors: G3 300 MHz - Intel


According to the developer,
"Consider PAWriter to be a possible next step in the development of Macintosh PAF had its develpment not been discontinued---"

http://www.lanopalera.net/Genealogy/AboutPAWriter.html

kauihou wrote:I can confirm that PAF does work in Crossover for the most part. There are a few minor bugs.

On a side note, Its good to see that there is a community of Mac users in the Church.

Chromebook
Crossover
PAF5

PAF5 looks fine when I start it. Then when I try to open a file or use any function in the menu bar all of the letters, except for the menu functions, are rectangular boxes. I tried going to preferences and changing fonts, and even they showed up correctly in the sample window, but all I get in any dialog screen is square boxes.
Has anyone seen this? Any solutions?