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Satellite Rack RCA Video to VidiU HDMI

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lajackson
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#1
If I use the yellow RCA jack on the satellite rack as my video source, can I just connect it directly to the HDMI on the VidiU, or do I need to have a converter box in the line?
russellhltn
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#2
You might be able to connect the Cisco HDMI out direct to the VidiU. But RCA to HMDI is going to take more than a cable.

The question is why? Why not stream the feed directly at the remote site?
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lajackson
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#3
Please allow me to rephrase. I should have called it the audiovisual rack, a 7-foot tall rack which also includes the satellite receiver, video and audio amplification and distribution for the entire meetinghouse, including the chapel sound, video switcher, white noise machine, chapel camera control, and those are just the boxes and wires I have found.

This is for a webcast (hence the use of this Topic), where all of the switching and other fun stuff for the stake conference video will wind up (among other places) at an RCA jack in the front of the rack. I need to get it from the RCA jack into the VidiU HDMI input which, conveniently enough, is also in the rack.

That said, I think your "RCA to HMDI is going to take more than a cable" means I will need one of those converter boxes in between the two ends.

I think the last guy was rewiring the rack every time. I am guessing he was switching the VGA input from an input to the video amp to an output port on the video distribution amp. He had a VGA to HDMI converter.

But I am not keen on changing all the connections each time. It would be too easy to miss a satellite broadcast because things did not get wired back correctly and no one was around to fix it.

So I am trying the RCA to HDMI trick.
russellhltn
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#4
lajackson wrote:That said, I think your "RCA to HMDI is going to take more than a cable" means I will need one of those converter boxes in between the two ends.
Correct. If you don't have one already, get a EMtech AVDH-1. It's job is to make switching easy.
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lajackson
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#5
russellhltn wrote:
lajackson wrote:That said, I think your "RCA to HMDI is going to take more than a cable" means I will need one of those converter boxes in between the two ends.
Correct. If you don't have one already, get a EMtech AVDH-1. It's job is to make switching easy.
Okay. If I am going to go from the yellow Video Out RCA port at the left end of the EMtech AFDH-1, can I cable directly into the VidiU HDMI port, or do I need the converter box? (It is not hooked up to a Webcaster Box.)
russellhltn
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#6
RCA video = composite analog.
HDMI = digital.

Your not going to find a cable that goes from RCA to HDMI.
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harddrive
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#7
You will need to get something like this to be able to go from RCA (Analog) to HDMI (Digital). You will also need to make sure that the Audio gets into the VIdiU.

https://www.amazon.com/Mini-Composite-C ... o+hdmi+out
lajackson
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#8
harddrive wrote:You will need to get something like this to be able to go from RCA (Analog) to HDMI (Digital). You will also need to make sure that the Audio gets into the VIdiU.
Thanks. That is the way we are headed. Then the rack will not have to be rewired each time.

I really hate to spend Church money on the expensive recommended ATLONA (AT HD120) model. Is it worth it? Does it work 10 times better? Is it more reliable? Is the picture better because of it?
roblad
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#9
The FM groups can provide a quality powered device, that will convert RCA Video / Audio to HDMI.
russellhltn
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#10
roblad wrote:The FM groups can provide a quality powered device, that will convert RCA Video / Audio to HDMI.
Maybe yours did, but that's not what the write-ups I've seen suggest. The VidiU is FM's responsibility, but the converter is the stake's.
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lajackson
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#11
russellhltn wrote:The VidiU is FM's responsibility, but the converter is the stake's.
Actually, the stake is supposed to ask the FM Group for the ATLONA, and to buy their own converter if the stake goes with a cheaper model. Our FM Group is out of budget money, so we bought a cheap one that worked just fine.

If the FM Group budgets for it and gets it for us next year, I still wonder if the extra expense is worth the cost.
russellhltn
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#12
lajackson wrote:Actually, the stake is supposed to ask the FM Group for the ATLONA, and to buy their own converter if the stake goes with a cheaper model.
I missed that memo. Can you point me to it?
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lajackson
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#13
russellhltn wrote:I missed that memo. Can you point me to it?
It's in the Help Center instructions. I'll find it after the ward chili cookoff this evening. First things first. [grin]
lajackson
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#14
lajackson wrote:
russellhltn wrote:I missed that memo. Can you point me to it?
It's in the Help Center instructions.
Help Center > Meetinghouse Technology > Webcast > (Under Get Started) Purchasing Webcast Products

In the third section under Video Signal Converters, the ATLONA (recommended) is purchased by "FM Group or online or local vendor" and the other two options are purchased "Online of local vendor". We always like to use the FM Group option when it is available, and it is in this case, limited to the FM Group budget constraints.
russellhltn
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#15
lajackson wrote:
lajackson wrote:
russellhltn wrote:I missed that memo. Can you point me to it?
It's in the Help Center instructions.
Help Center > Meetinghouse Technology > Webcast > (Under Get Started) Purchasing Webcast Products

In the third section under Video Signal Converters, the ATLONA (recommended) is purchased by "FM Group or online or local vendor" and the other two options are purchased "Online of local vendor". We always like to use the FM Group option when it is available, and it is in this case, limited to the FM Group budget constraints.
Hmmm. Interesting. I'm not so sure as it implies that FM will pay. I think there's any number of things that can be ordered though the FM Group out of local unit funds.

The paragraph above says "Purchase online or through a local vendor using local unit funds." This may be a "late change" to what was "local units pay".

All the other documents I found are fuzzy about anything other than the VidiU.
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lajackson
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#16
russellhltn wrote:I'm not so sure as it implies that FM will pay.
Our FM Group says it does, and we are not going to suggest otherwise to them.

My original question remains. Is it worth the Church funds to pay for the 10 times more expensive converter? What is the 10 times more advantage? Reliability? Quality? Other?