Senior Missionaries access

As senior missionaries we don't receive mission-issued devices. With our records remaining in our home wards we apparently have no access to members/wards where we are assigned. Is there a method to be granted such access?

While I am not sure how appropriate this solution is for missionaries, your ward clerk can create an out-of-unit member record for you using LCR here:
https://www.lds.org/mls/mbr/records/out ... ind-member

drepouille wrote:While I am not sure how appropriate this solution is for missionaries, your ward clerk can create an out-of-unit member record for you using LCR here:
https://www.lds.org/mls/mbr/records/out ... ind-member

In addition to creating an out of unit member record for each senior missionary a standard calling must be recorded.

If you're a full-time missionary assigned to a regular mission, you should have access to the LDS.org Directory for the units where you serve – assuming the mission office is keeping ward assignments up-to-date.

And vice versa -- the members of the unit in which you are serving should be able to see your mission photo in the directory under Missionary. There is often a delay in the mission office due to workload or turnover, and the missionary assignments don't get posted in a timely manner.

drepouille wrote:And vice versa -- the members of the unit in which you are serving should be able to see your mission photo in the directory under Missionary.

Not always true. Proselytizing missionaries yes, other types no. Our CES missionaries never show up. I'm not sure about MLS support missions.

I received a reply from the tech department of the IMOS, which is the mission office records management system. They communicated with the mission office staff and spoke to them how to set it up through IMOS.

This is the answer which I received. Once the mission office enabled my and my wife's names it worked as I had requested:

Full-time missionaries do have access to this information in LDS Tools, but your proselyting area must first be associated to the correct wards/stakes in the Internet Mission Office System (IMOS). We would recommend contacting your mission office to ensure this has been done.

Once you contact your mission office, you will need to do the following in LDS Tools:

Sync the app (More > Sync > Sync Now)
Once the sync completes successfully, you will be brought to the "Directory" page. Your home ward will be displayed by default.
At the top of the page, tap Directory.
Select the ward/stake in which you are serving.
The directory for that ward/stake will then be displayed.
Please reply to this message within 7 days if you have any additional questions or concerns regarding this specific issue. For new questions or problems, please submit them at https://missionary.lds.org.

We appreciate your service!

Best regards,

Technology Services Team
Technology Division | Missionary Department
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

How does this apply for Mission Presidents? Ours does not have access to our directory or calendar in LDS Tools, but has requested it. How can we at the Stake or Ward level accommodate this request? Should he have this access? The previous message from frankmc indicates that the Church does have a legit way to make this happen, but our Mission President was told by CHQ that the only way to make this work is via an out-of-unit member calling which would be a hack. Please advise.

dufekmc wrote:How does this apply for Mission Presidents? Ours does not have access to our directory or calendar in LDS Tools, but has requested it. How can we at the Stake or Ward level accommodate this request? Should he have this access? The previous message from frankmc indicates that the Church does have a legit way to make this happen, but our Mission President was told by CHQ that the only way to make this work is via an out-of-unit member calling which would be a hack. Please advise.

This post is fairly similar to another post in a different thread. Please note that the Code of Conduct says "Do not post the same material in multiple threads." I went ahead and approved both of them based on the two posts having some substantial differences.

dufekmc wrote:our Mission President was told by CHQ that the only way to make this work is via an out-of-unit member calling which would be a hack.

Disclaimer: I assume by "Mission President" we're not talking about branches in missions, but a Mission President's access to stake information.

I don't know what tools are available on the Mission side. But from the unit side, the quote above is correct. The only thing the ward or stake can do is add a out-of-member record and give him a calling. The units have zero discretion in assigning rights other than extending callings.

It's been my understanding that individual missionaries can be assigned to wards and that gives them some access - as well as showing up in the ward's directory information. If the same can't be done for the mission president, then I suspect the powers that be (the Priesthood Department) are of the opinion that he doesn't need access. (We've seen a lot of posts from high counselors who think they should have access - see the LCR FAQs. I have a suspicion that if the Mission President were to push the issue with his "upline" the response would be similar in tone. )

Note that I'd expect the Mission President to have access to CDOL. I that should be sufficient to give him access to members with the callings that he'd interact with. It's not in a handy app like LDS Tools, but it does work.

russellhltn wrote:The only thing the ward or stake can do is add a out-of-member record and give him a calling.

Thank you russellhltn! Can you please clarify how to add such a record, and if a Stake can do this or if it is only available at the Ward level. When updating callings, is it as simple as entering the non-resident member's MRN?

dufekmc wrote:Can you please clarify how to add such a record, and if a Stake can do this or if it is only available at the Ward level. When updating callings, is it as simple as entering the non-resident member's MRN?

I *think* by using the MRN, you can do both in one move, but I'll defer to someone who's done it.

Generally, only stakes can enter a stake calling and only wards can enter a ward calling. So it will depend on what calling is extended.

russellhltn wrote:I *think* by using the MRN, you can do both in one move, but I'll defer to someone who's done it.

I haven't actually done it but I do have LCR access at the ward level. I believe you have to first add the person as an out-of-unit member (using Membership > Manage Out-of-Unit Member from the LCR menu). You can look them up by MRN or full name and birth date. Once they are an out of unit member you can add them to a calling by MRN or name. Just having an out-of-unit record may provide some access. Other things might require a standard calling. I don't know what systems belong in each category.

I thought I remember some discussion in that you could enter a MRN for the "name" when recording a calling and that would auto-magically do both steps for you.

If that is true, it would be similar to entering a Fast Offering donation from a missionary serving in my ward. MLS doesn't really care about the name of the missionary. When it sees an out-of-unit donor with an MRN, the finance back end looks up the MRN and updates the donor record with the full name of the missionary. It would be great if we could enter the MRN of senior missionaries serving in ward callings into LCR.

It's possible that what I was remembering was the process for adding a YSA bishop to his new calling.

On the stake level, you can automagically add an out-of-unit leader to their calling by pasting their membership record number instead of typing their name, when you're recording the calling under Callings by Organization. On the ward level, though, I think you have to create an out-of-unit membership record first.

Is there a limit to the number of units that can be viewed in LDS tools? We have a senior CES missionary couple that works in three different Stakes. They only seem to be able to access information for two stakes in spite of the fact that the stake clerks have all entered them into LCR the same way. Is there a way for them to be able to see directory information for all three stakes?

In the past it has been noted that LDS Tools seems only to display up to 10 units. Perhaps that is the limitation they are seeing? I do not know if it has been corrected.

I was deployed for some months last year and served as clerk for the Doha 3rd Branch. Our entire branch (except for the BP and EQP) were out of unit members as they were only there temporarily.
1. In LCR, select "Membership" and then "Manage Out-of-unit Members"
2. You can request by MRN or by name and birth date, just like regular records. The member's official record stays in their home ward and a copy is created in the new unit. Once in the local unit, they can be given callings and have respective system rights just like a regular membership record.

I did this at the branch level - don't know if it works the same at the stake level.

It looks to me like the 3rd stake created the positions today. It takes up to 24 hours for the permissions from new positions to become effective, so tomorrow they should see the 3rd stake.

The Senior Missionaries Full Time Service Opportunities site has a white half screen pop up that covers left half the page, written on top is What Are Full Time Opportunities? Unable to read what opportunities????