MP recommend process?

What is the recommended process for MP ordinations?

Sometimes I get the MP advancement form filled out by the Bishop, other times I get it from the SP with his signature, other times it's completed and handed to me by a HC.

With the online MP update, I'd like to put together a standardized process. Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

(I'm a stake clerk)

The last time I read the fine print instructions on the MP ordination form, it said that both the ward clerk and the stake clerk should receive copies of the completed form. When I was stake clerk, I asked the stake presidency and high councilors to leave a copy of the completed form with the ward clerk, and bring the completed original to me. It didn't matter to me whether the ward or the stake recorded the ordination, although now it looks like only the stake may record it. As stake clerk, I needed to print the certificate and get it signed. Then I needed to add the ordination to the ratification list for the next stake conference or stake general priesthood meeting.

drepouille wrote:It didn't matter to me whether the ward or the stake recorded the ordination, although now it looks like only the stake may record it.

That is correct. Now, only the stake can record a Melchizedek Priesthood ordination in LCR. I believe it is still good policy to give a copy of the ordination information to the ward clerk, so that he can follow up if the ordination is not timely recorded by the stake.

drepouille wrote:The last time I read the fine print instructions on the MP ordination form, it said that both the ward clerk and the stake clerk should receive copies of the completed form.

Where does this completed form come from? The fine print on the MP Ordination Record (Ward) now says that the ward keeps the form on file until the next membership audit. The ward does not send the form to the stake.

So, when the bishop sends the recommendation to the stake using LCR, does the stake print out a form for a member of the presidency to use in their interview, or does the stake just get the list of pending ordinations?

Does the stake then give a form to a counselor or high councilor to represent the stake at the ordination? Can the stake presidency (probably) or high councilor (perhaps?) access the list of pending MP ordinations?

Inquiring minds. This all seems to be a fairly recent change to the information flow process.

The online form says:
Presiding officer: Give this completed form to the stake clerk.
Clerk: Enter the ordinance information into Leader and Clerk Resources and print a certificate for the member.
File this completed form for one year.

Once the bishop submits it online, the stake presidency members, exec secretary and stake clerk can all view it under Priesthood Ordinances. In my stake, when a presidency member completes the MP interview, he prints the form out and it is given to the high councilor that will represent the stake at the ordination. Following the ordination the high councilor gives the completed form to the stake clerk to record the ordinance and print the certificate.

Thanks for the feedback.

Based on the feedback, these are the steps:

Bishop interviews and submits the form online,

This prompts stake review and then the stake interviews,

Then HC approval,

Then printed form given to HC,

HC returns form to stake after ordinations completed,

Stake Clerk records ordination and prints certificate.

Does that sound correct?

harrisjd wrote:Does that sound correct?

Paperwise, yes. For the complete process, after HC approval I would add sustaining in stake conference or stake general priesthood meeting. If that is not possible due to time constraints, then sustaining in sacrament meeting.

And if the latter, I would add at the end of the process ratification in a stake meeting.

Oh yes, the sustaining/ratification. Thank you for the feedback.

After the bishop interviews the brother, he should tell the brother whom he should contact to schedule a stake interview. In my stake, all MP interviews are scheduled by the assistant Stake Exec Sec, who makes an appointment with a counselor in the stake presidency.
Since MP ordinations are now submitted to the stake via LCR, it would be lovely if LCR could be used to track them and to actually generate a sustaining list for stake conference (or stake general priesthood meeting).

How soon before a young man turns 18 can you submit the online MP application? The option is not available for a young man who is 55 days before his 18th birthday. We have stake conference coming up and eve thought this young man turns 18 a couple of weeks after Stake Conference, I would still like him sustained then.

dpalmer2508 wrote:How soon before a young man turns 18 can you submit the online MP application?

One month.

I have the same question as dpalmer2508. Our stake has a stake conference in May, and usually within a month after that conference, we have a few priests who are graduating from high school, turning 18, and leaving on missions. So we ask bishops to prepare for stake conference by looking at priests who need to be ordained elders soon after the conference and start the interview and recommendation process (so the stake president has time to interview the candidate, get high council approval, and sustain the candidate in stake conference, even if he will turn 18 a couple of weeks after conference).

But ward clerks tell me that LCR requires the candidate to be 18 before the bishop can submit a recommendation for a Melchizedek Priesthood ordination. Should it allow submission earlier (say, within 60 days of his turning 18)?

If not, should we sustain the candidate without the online Melchizedek Priesthood Ordination Record? Or rather, should we not sustain the candidate in stake conference at all, but wait until he turns 18, and then complete the interview process, sustain him in his ward, let him be ordained and endowed and leave on his mission, and then ratify the ordination in the next stake conference or stake general priesthood meeting?

Since the form has an eligibility date (for candidates who are not yet 18), it seems like LCR would let us print the form a month or two before the candidate is 18. I'd even settle for the option of printing a blank form, which the ward clerk could fill out in preparation for stake conference (much as we did before online submission using LCR).

I can post these suggestion on the feedback link in LCR, but wanted to ask here to see if I was missing a policy of not starting the (rather long) interview and approval process until after the candidate is already 18.

So sorry. I missed scgallafent's reply to dpalmer2508. (It was the only post on the second page. I needed to keep reading!)

Thanks for the information. Knowing that bishops have a 30-day window before the candidate turns 18 helps me know how to instruct wards to submit ordination recommendations before stake conference.

Thanks!