Do YW sisters age 18 who attend YW count for line 17 in the quarterly report ("YSA attending . . . RS meetings")

As I expect is likely the case in many wards, we have three YW who are age 18 who attend YW, instead of RS (they're still seniors in high school).

I'm unclear from the description language of quarterly report line 17 whether to include them for "Young single adults attending priesthood or Relief Society meetings." I think the answer is "yes," although a technical reading would probably indicate "no," unless they have a calling in the Laurels . . . because they didn't attend RS.

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I don't know of any definite statement but I would count them as "yes".

Also, the 3 YW who are age 18 are excluded from the list of potential "Young women attending Sunday Young Women meetings," so it would make even more sense to me to include them in the line 17 YSA total for RS. However, we might consider updating the descriptive language to include something about 18-year-old women being counted if they attend YW, instead of RS.

Thanks, eblood.

I'm not sure about LCR, but I know when quarterly reports were in MLS, you could see a list of names that were the "base" for each group. That should help you determine how LCR is viewing this.

Thanks, Russell. In LCR, we are given the ability to see the list of "potentials," I believe for each line item. The 3 YW in question are listed in this group of potentials. However, the line item title is YSA who attended priesthood or RS. Also, the description fails to include provision for YW who are 18 who attend YW.

Maybe this is me being a reformed attorney geek, and I think the instructions/description could be clearer for this niche case.

I agree with you and eblood, though: I think the intent is for them to count as YSA attending RS (line 17 of the quarterly report).

fletch74 wrote:Also, the 3 YW who are age 18 are excluded from the list of potential "Young women attending Sunday Young Women meetings,"

Are these 3 assigned to the YW organization or the RS organization? If they are assigned to the YW I would expect them to show up as potentials for that item.

Ahhh. "And at last I see the light!" (Cue the Rapunzel music.) They're assigned to RS, which assignment I believe is automatic.

It probably makes a lot more sense to pull them back into YW, until they actually start attending RS. Are there any hurdles or issues for me to consider, before I assign them to YW?

Thanks, eblood!

fletch74 wrote:Are there any hurdles or issues for me to consider, before I assign them to YW?

If they are attending YW still then they should be assigned to the YW organization. You just need to remember to move them back to RS when they graduate and start attending RS.

Weird. I assigned them to YW and they show up there, when I click on their individual records>assigned class or I go to the YW organization. However, in the quarterly report, they're missing from the list of potential YW, and they're included in the list of potential YSA.

Do I need to wait some time for this change to replicate to the quarterly report, or is the quarterly report a snapshot, and once the last day of the reporting month closes the snapshot is taken and that's what we get, without an ability to modify it?

fletch74 wrote:Do I need to wait some time for this change to replicate to the quarterly report, or is the quarterly report a snapshot, and once the last day of the reporting month closes the snapshot is taken and that's what we get, without an ability to modify it?

Yes, the quarterly report is a snapshot made at the end of the quarter and can't be changed after that point. So your adjustments won't have any affect until the next quarter.

fletch74 wrote:Do I need to wait some time for this change to replicate to the quarterly report, or is the quarterly report a snapshot, and once the last day of the reporting month closes the snapshot is taken and that's what we get, without an ability to modify it?

In this case the quarterly report data for the 3 YW is as of the last day of the quarter. Had you moved them back into the YW before the close of the quarter they would have counted for the YW data and not the RS data. There is nothing you can do to change the data. If they attended their meetings for YW then just count them as having attending their meetings for RS.

fletch74 wrote:Weird. I assigned them to YW and they show up there, when I click on their individual records>assigned class or I go to the YW organization. However, in the quarterly report, they're missing from the list of potential YW, and they're included in the list of potential YSA.

Do I need to wait some time for this change to replicate to the quarterly report, or is the quarterly report a snapshot, and once the last day of the reporting month closes the snapshot is taken and that's what we get, without an ability to modify it?

The quarterly report is a snapshot at the end of the month.

fletch74 wrote:Do I need to wait some time for this change to replicate to the quarterly report, or is the quarterly report a snapshot, and once the last day of the reporting month closes the snapshot is taken and that's what we get, without an ability to modify it?

It won't change in the quarterly report. The quarterly report is a snapshot taken at the beginning of the first day of the new quarter.

I changed the organization to Young Women but the YW still shows up in RS for VT. The RS President would like to see the name removed until she graduates. Any help here? Thanks.

curthoffman wrote:I changed the organization to Young Women but the YW still shows up in RS for VT. The RS President would like to see the name removed until she graduates. Any help here? Thanks.

Not possible at this time.