Moving families from HPG to EQ for HT statistics in a branch in a district

I'm currently having trouble with our home teaching statistics being incorrectly reported in the current version of LCR. The number of households not visited is severely under-reported. While this makes our home teaching numbers look fantastic, it's not real. After some investigating, I believe the issue is that most of our families were assigned to the high priests group by default. Because we're a branch in a district, we don't have an organized high priests group and those families should be assigned to the elders quorum instead.

I can't seem to figure out how to switch the home teaching assignment for a family to show up in the elders quorum statistics. Since we don't have a high priests organization, I can't click on that organization and move families over as it seems you would be able to do in a ward.

I have identified a messy work-around by assigning families to a dummy elders companionship. This moves the families into the "households not visited" but does not include them in the "households not assigned" categories. Ideally, they would show up in both, so we could get accurate statistics.

Any ideas or suggestions as to how to resolve this issue would be appreciated.

Currently, there's no way to move a family from the HPG "unassigned" to the EQ "unassigned'. That logic is hard-coded. I understand this is under review, but with no word on when we'll hear about any change.

But I think once assigned to a companionship, you should be fine.

Please advise how to move families from EQ to HP or HP to EQ.

dhatha wrote:Please advise how to move families from EQ to HP or HP to EQ.

Please explain. You can't move them from the "unassigned" list, but you can still assign them from either quorum.

I do not have access to this function any longer, but I believe you must go to each family and then select the home teachers you want them assigned to. Doing it this way is supposed to allow you to select any home teachers from any quorum (as I understand it).

Unless it has changed in the past month or so, you cannot go to the EQ home teachers list and select the families to add to their assignment if they are within the rules to be home taught by a HP quorum (even if you don't have a HP quorum in your branch). You cannot "reassign" a family to be home taught by another quorum in LCR except as listed above (my understanding - I'm sure I will be corrected if incorrect).

russellhltn wrote:

dhatha wrote:Please advise how to move families from EQ to HP or HP to EQ.

Please explain. You can't move them from the "unassigned" list, but you can still assign them from either quorum.

The family is assigned to the HP group for HT. The husband is not a member - therefore not a HP. The wife is obviously not a HP. If the husband was a HP then I could see him in the HP list and make the change. Meanwhile, the family shows up on the HP list for HT even though they do NOT show up on the list for HP members.

dhatha wrote:The family is assigned to the HP group for HT. The husband is not a member - therefore not a HP. The wife is obviously not a HP. If the husband was a HP then I could see him in the HP list and make the change. Meanwhile, the family shows up on the HP list for HT even though they do NOT show up on the list for HP members.

The hard-coded, non-overridable default is that "unassigned" families that have a Elder as the Head-of-House, go to the EQ. All others go to HP.

However, the family can be assigned HT from any quorum by using the methods mentioned.

When I go to a family in the Home Teaching area in the HP list, under the "Households" tab, then I find a family who should be in the EQ, I click "Edit", then I can search for a home teacher. The problem is that the search results are limited to the HP pool only. How do I even choose a EQ home teacher?

sludgepickle wrote:When I go to a family in the Home Teaching area in the HP list, under the "Households" tab, then I find a family who should be in the EQ, I click "Edit", then I can search for a home teacher. The problem is that the search results are limited to the HP pool only. How do I even choose a EQ home teacher?

What is your calling? If it's HPGL, you may not have rights to assign EQ HTs.

russellhltn wrote:

dhatha wrote:The family is assigned to the HP group for HT. The husband is not a member - therefore not a HP. The wife is obviously not a HP. If the husband was a HP then I could see him in the HP list and make the change. Meanwhile, the family shows up on the HP list for HT even though they do NOT show up on the list for HP members.

The hard-coded, non-overridable default is that "unassigned" families that have a Elder as the Head-of-House, go to the EQ. All others go to HP.

However, the family can be assigned HT from any quorum by using the methods mentioned.

To clarify further, this decision is based on a First Presidency letter from November 3, 2004:

Dear Brethren: Effective immediately, responsibility for the progress of prospective elders is transferred to the high priests. Where there are no high priests or insufficient numbers of them, the elders quorum will retain this responsibility.
This change will further ensure that each prospective elder has a friend to fellowship him into the brotherhood of the priesthood. The change will also balance workloads better between elders quorums and high priests groups. As presiding high priest, the bishop continues to oversee and coordinate the efforts of the high priests group leader and elders quorum president in this work.

Handbook 2, 7.6.1 gives flexibility but the letter establishes a default.

russellhltn wrote:

sludgepickle wrote:When I go to a family in the Home Teaching area in the HP list, under the "Households" tab, then I find a family who should be in the EQ, I click "Edit", then I can search for a home teacher. The problem is that the search results are limited to the HP pool only. How do I even choose a EQ home teacher?

What is your calling? If it's HPGL, you may not have rights to assign EQ HTs.

No, I'm ward clerk. I figured out how to assign them over to EQ from HP. You need go to the EQ home teaching area and assign them there to a companionship. I was trying to do it from the HP view.

I am the HP Group Secretary. We have a new family where the wife is a member and the husband is a non-member. Thus by default they are apparently assigned to the HP Group for Home Teaching. However due to ages of children, etc., we feel that the best fit for home teachers is from the EQ. I have tried everything I can think of reading through the discussion above, and I cannot find a way to assign an EQ home teacher. I have temporarily assigned a HP home teacher to get the family off the unassigned list, but that does not help. When I locate the family and try to select a new HT (from the EQ), the only choices are HP companionships. Is there any way to handle this?

tfwaitman wrote:I am the HP Group Secretary. We have a new family where the wife is a member and the husband is a non-member. Thus by default they are apparently assigned to the HP Group for Home Teaching. However due to ages of children, etc., we feel that the best fit for home teachers is from the EQ. I have tried everything I can think of reading through the discussion above, and I cannot find a way to assign an EQ home teacher. I have temporarily assigned a HP home teacher to get the family off the unassigned list, but that does not help. When I locate the family and try to select a new HT (from the EQ), the only choices are HP companionships. Is there any way to handle this?

Someone in the elders quorum presidency will need to assign them to a companionship on the elders quorum Companionships screen.

As the HP Group Secretary, you cannot assign any home teachers from the EQ. The EQ Secretary (or other members of the EQ Presidency) can. They will not see this family when they are in the HT side of LCR, but they can bring up the member from the directory and assign their HT from the EQ companionships.

Sorry, I can't see how to do that. I think that when you say the "directory" that you mean the member list? But I don't see how to assign HT's from there. Can you provide a more detailed answer? And thanks in advance for your help.

tfwaitman wrote:Sorry, I can't see how to do that. I think that when you say the "directory" that you mean the member list? But I don't see how to assign HT's from there. Can you provide a more detailed answer? And thanks in advance for your help.

You can't see how to do it because you don't have permission to do it. If you keep trying to make the change yourself, you'll only be frustrated and confused.

As others have mentioned before, all you can do in this situation is to communicate with the Elders Quorum presidency. Only a member of the EQ presidency (or the ward clerk or bishop) can actually make this change.