Need to see 2 prior units

We have some apartments in our ward that we share with the stake. When records are moved in they are usually sent to the wrong ward and we have to move them or receive them from the other ward. This makes so we cannot see the original unit they were sent from.

So I have 2 suggestions:
1. allow us to see 2 prior units?????
2. Enhance the move to allow a silent move of such that can be used to keep the orignal prior unit and not show us as the prior unit.

me1981 wrote:So I have 2 suggestions

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This happens in my stake as well. I like your suggestions.

I'm not certain if the church tracks back 2 prior units. If the data isn't available, that's going to be a lot of work to implement.

A while back I had some comments on a thread and we were discussing data representation. I believe it was aebrown who works for the church (although I believe in Family Search) and mentioned some things about this aspect of the data that led me to believe they may not keep a detailed move history. I could be totally wrong; that was just my impression.

mevans wrote:I'm not certain if the church tracks back 2 prior units. If the data isn't available, that's going to be a lot of work to implement.

A while back I had some comments on a thread and we were discussing data representation. I believe it was aebrown who works for the church (although I believe in Family Search) and mentioned some things about this aspect of the data that led me to believe they may not keep a detailed move history. I could be totally wrong; that was just my impression.

We do have a detailed move history. Maybe they could show the 2nd unit if the move time was within the last year (since that is when you need to contact the prior unit), or if the move was within a certain time before.

jonesrk wrote: We do have a detailed move history. Maybe they could show the 2nd unit if the move time was within the last year (since that is when you need to contact the prior unit), or if the move was within a certain time before.

That sounds like a very good suggestion, although you might need to show more than two; some people are very transient. One group I think of is YSA: they might be in and out of a few wards during the year. For example, someone might be in a home ward, then a school ward, then go somewhere for a few months for an internship, and then back to school, etc.

If I were designing membership records, I would use an Oracle database (personal preferences). The database schema is designed with all possible data fields that could be expanded as the Church evolves. If and entry is update for a specific user, say the prior unit, it would be trivial to perform an SQL query and return all results, in the last 365 days. The database is only the tip of the iceberg.

The question comes down to ... how to get this feature request in to the enhancement list queue.

glennta wrote:The question comes down to ... how to get this feature request in to the enhancement list queue.

Use the feedback link in the LCR app.

At the LDSTech Conference a couple of weeks ago one of the Leader and Clerk Resources developers mentioned they are already exploring other database options. I believe they already have one in mind (I don't remember which).

According to jonesrk above, the data is there.

russellhltn wrote:According to jonesrk above, the data is there.

At least back into the 1980's sometime. It has a move for me in 1988 and not the prior one in 83, but that should get 2 prior for a large percentage .

jonesrk wrote:. . . that should get 2 prior for a large percentage .

You would need three prior to know my former ward. Married, with a large family, I did not move here from a Ricks College single student ward. My record did, but not I.

When one of our children went to school, the clerk there snagged the whole family, not just the individual record for our child. He was good enough to send most of the other family records back when he noticed what he had done. We only had to round up a couple of missing children to complete the process. [grin]

Which I think makes the argument for prior based on time, not count. Perhaps a two-year lookback? The Handbook only requires one year. For exceptional cases, the Bishop can always call CHQ.

It looks like this feature has been implemented (or is at least in beta, as I notice my url says "beta" right now). I notice that if a member has been in more than one unit in the past 12 months, that it shows all the units where the member has been during that time. That's a nice improvement.