Print Entire Stake Directory

Is this possible for a typical stake member?

I think you can do that, at least by parts, keeping in mind a couple of limitations: they can't see children in other wards and they won't be able to see anyone who has their privacy set to anything but "stake". (OK, anyone in other wards that are not set to stake, and no one in their ward that is set to "leader only".)

I don't see a way to do it for the entire stake membership, for those whose data is stake visible. Here's an example of what is desired:

The typical member would have whatever is in the directory. Neither exports nor LCR isn't available to them. But then again, why would a "typical member" be doing that?

A stake presidency member or stake clerk can view or print a directory of all stake members at the Member List on Leader and Clerk Resources.

I'm an assistant ward clerk and I'm having trouble figuring out how to do this. Is it possible for a ward clerk or assistant ward clerk to print out a directory of general stake membership?

I tried both CDOL and LCR.

I don't think Ward clerk gives enough rights with respect to youth and privacy settings for members in other wards.

Has anyone asked WHY?

johnshaw wrote:Has anyone asked WHY?

As in why is a Ward Clerk being tasked to print a Stake directory? Good question.

If it's for members of the ward, they shouldn't be able to see youth or members who desire privacy either.

From 2005 until the replacement of LUWS with the new lds.org Directory, I was the stake executive secretary, and I printed a stake directory every year. I generated a list of households from each ward using LUWS, then copied each list from my browser into a Word document. Each ward directory was a child of the master Word document that I used to print the final directory (to a PDF).
When LUWS was replaced by the new Directory, I could not figure out how to do the same copy/paste trick. I don't believe the "export households" existed then. So I simply told the stake presidency it was too hard to generate a printed stake directory, and they simply told the bishoprics to encourage all their members to use the new Directory on lds.org, or LDS Tools, to lookup members and leaders in the stake. I think it has saved us a little money over the years.

russellhltn wrote:The typical member would have whatever is in the directory. Neither exports nor LCR isn't available to them. But then again, why would a "typical member" be doing that?

Why wouldn't certain ward members desire a printed stake directory? Some find it more convenient. Others find it to be a convenient supplement to the lds.org directory.

russellhltn wrote:As in why is a Ward Clerk being tasked to print a Stake directory? Good question.

Before the current technology, Stake directories were typically printed for all member of the stake. Now, stake directories are typically not printed at all. As a result, to obtain a stake directory, ad-hoc requests are made to stake leaders. This is inefficient at best. Why wouldn't we want to grant Ward clerks the ability to print a Stake directory for ward members?

russellhltn wrote:If it's for members of the ward, they shouldn't be able to see youth or members who desire privacy either.

The report could be designed to respect privacy settings -- perhaps with an optional override for Ward leaders.

On a related note: I understand the need for privacy, but ward members seem to be taking this to extremes. To perform my callings, I have to contact members from my ward and other wards in the stake. More and more members of our ward and stake are making everything private, so I don't have a way to contact them. This forces me to keep my own list of contacts and their information. They are not trying to keep the information from me personally, but for some reason people are on a privacy kick. I use to be a bishopric member, so I didn't really notice the issue because I had access to view private information. Now, one of my callings is Stake Website Administrator, but this does not give me the privilege to view private information.

As a recent example, I had a sister from another ward leave me a voicemail with her name and ward regarding scheduling a private event. When I tried to look her up in her ward directory, no one by that name was listed; so, I searched the entire stake. When I finally tracked her down, she said she made her entire family (husband, wife, and kids) completely private so no one could even tell she was in the ward unless they are a ward leader. This makes performing my calling difficult. We all have limited time and this reduces efficiency and effectiveness of people performing their callings. I predict this will result in some reduction in activity (due to less connectedness) and valiance (due to people giving up because they perceive it's not worth their time to track people down). I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect otherwise.

I have five kids (some with cell phone) and have set my entire family's data to Stake visible. None of us have ever had a problem. I'm not saying an issue couldn't arise, but I believe the likelihood is remote and could be readily addressed before it became dangerous.

smconvey wrote:Why wouldn't some ward members desire a printed stake directory? Many find it more convenient. ... As a result, to obtain a stake directory, ad-hoc requests are made to stake leaders. This is inefficient at best. Why wouldn't we want to grant Ward clerks the ability to print a Stake directory?

The problem with stake directories is they become out of date almost as soon as they come out of the printer. For anyone with access to computers, the electronic version is preferable. So I'd think the printed directory would be for those who have no computer.

I just tried, and it appears you can print a reasonable directory from the on-line directory. Yes, you'll have to print ward-by-ward, but back when my stake we had stake directories, that's how it was organized.

smconvey wrote:On a related note: I understand the need for privacy, but ward members seem to be taking this to extremes.

That's their legal privilege. So the privacy settings are not going away. Just be glad you don't live in the UK. Over there, due to the law, it's all op-in. "Leadership only" is the default. Ward directories are practically empty. But that's the law of the land.

smconvey wrote:As a recent example, I had a sister from another ward leave me a voicemail with her name and ward regarding scheduling a private event. When I tried to look her up in her ward directory, no one by that name was listed; so, I searched the entire stake.

Call me lacking in charity, but you know what I'd do? I'd ignore it. She wants something from you. If there's no response, she'll call back. If she doesn't, she didn't want it that badly. The other option would be to fire off a email to someone in the bishopric of that ward and ask them to forward it. After members get burned a few times, maybe they'll figure out there is such a thing as too much privacy.