Unit Statistics

I am grateful for the statistics provided by the Quarterly Report, Key Indicators, Action and Interview List, and Unit Statistics.

As part of the North American Central Initiative, we have been asked to focus on prospective elders, non-LDS spouses, and unbaptized Members of Record Age 9 or Older. The unit statistics gives me the number of prospective elders and Members of Record Age 9 or Older, but I can find no report that allows me to drill down into those numbers to find the names. I know I can use standard and custom MLS reports to find those names, and I hope LCR will provide that information in the future.

I am currently serving as a ward mission leader.

You can drill down to the Age 9 or Older and the Prospective Elders through the Unit Statistics Report in LCR. Just click on the label for the number in the report and it opens the detail. It looks like every label is a hyperlink (I'm a ward assistant clerk...I don't know if the detail is only available to certain callings). I don't see a way to get married members with an non-member spouse, though.

I tried that, but no luck. It may be because I don't have the privileges, or because I am forced to use IE 10 at work.

I must lack privileges, which is fine. I have discovered that unbaptized Members of Record Age 9 or Older are identified in the Member List of LCR by an asterisk to the left of their names.

Yes, there is an asterisk. Another thought is to ask a clerk to print the list for you. It probably doesn't change very frequently unless you have a lot of membership turnover.

What you are describing here is probably a new feature, it was not quite available to me as a high priest group secretary, I was released four months ago.

It was pointed out during the tech broadcast that IE (any flavor) does not work well with LCR. They said Chrome is the best for viewing it, same thing for certain features in FamilySearch. IE is a web/internet security hazard too, despite some fixes, the security holes are such that 'you could drive two semi-trucks side by side through it', as one programmer I know put it.

We're supposed to see a new browser with Windows 10, but it remains to be seen how good it really will be.

Can Ward Council or PEC members have access to the reports on the Quarterly Report? As a bishopric member, I can login and see hyperlinks in the right hand side of the report. These links show me the details behind the Quarterly Report stats.

Unfortunately the YM President in our Ward can't see the details behind which YM in the Ward are not ordained. It would be helpful for him and others to be able to access these sub reports so they can be effective in their stewardships and not have to ask the Bishopric or Ward Clerk for this information. I don't think the EQ president can access it either.

Any insight on how/if access can be granted?

opee wrote:Any insight on how/if access can be granted?

If they're able to get access to LCR at all, then their calling is likely recorded correctly. That's the only tool you have.

I'd suggest giving feedback using the link in LCR itself.

opee wrote:Can Ward Council or PEC members have access to the reports on the Quarterly Report? As a bishopric member, I can login and see hyperlinks in the right hand side of the report. These links show me the details behind the Quarterly Report stats.

Unfortunately the YM President in our Ward can't see the details behind which YM in the Ward are not ordained.

Only members of the bishopric, including clerks and executive secretary, may see personal information, such as ordinances, temple recommend status, and family members (such as parents). I am sure this is for privacy and security. I am sure the Handbook states that all others should ask the clerk to provide other information the bishop deems necessary for them to receive.

opee wrote:Unfortunately the YM President in our Ward can't see the details behind which YM in the Ward are not ordained

Instead of using the quarterly report to see the data the YM president needs, he should be using the Organizations tab in LCR. He will have access to the YM Organization. In the three quorums there is a section for membership of each quorum. There is a Priesthood column right after the membership names. That is where the YM president can see if a young man in the quorum is ordained. If there is nothing in that column then the young man has not been ordained.

Those organization listings do not provide a simple single source list for unordained members. But it is a way to see what offices, if any, a young man holds. While the YM president cannot see what data drove the quarterly report he can see the data as of the day he looks into the LCR "Organizations" lists. That data is more important when dealing with the progress of individual young men. That is real time data. The clerk deals with historical data.

I like to use the Action and Interview List in LCR to find young men overdue for ordination.

So my initial question used YM as an example, and I am aware that there are other ways to get the information other than using a hyperlink in the Quarterly Report, but I'm looking to understand the principle here.

We have been encouraged by our Stake and Area leaders to offload some of the labors that Bishops have dealt with in the past, but should be covered by EQ presidents and others. I am wondering why those leaders who could benefit from the easy access to the information on the Quarterly Report have to search for it through a "backdoor" approach rather than having access to the hyperlinks that the Bishopric and Clerks do.

I don't think that an EQ president or HPGL or RS President has access to the hyperlinks. They would benefit from access to the data behind the scenes--and getting to it quickly using the Quarterly Report than having to open a different report or screen. Trying to understand how these excellent tools that are accessible online can be used more effectively by more leaders in the WC than having to either ask the Bishop(ric) for assistance, or navigating to other screens for basically the same information...

opee wrote:Trying to understand how these excellent tools that are accessible online can be used more effectively by more leaders in the WC than having to either ask the Bishop(ric) for assistance, or navigating to other screens for basically the same information...

No one here can answer exactly why the permissions are the way they are. We can only guess. Even the developers may not know. They are given a big matrix of exactly what permissions to give what callings and I doubt there is an explanation for each one.

I can say that there are some things in those links that are considered sensitive even for RS or EQ presidents, specifically recommend status information. I'm pretty sure that information will not be made directly available to auxiliaries. It can be shared by the bishop when he feels it appropriate but as a general rule only the extended bishopric can see that.

So permissions would have to be fine grained enough to allow access to some links but not others. It's quite possible they didn't think it worth the effort to do that given the appropriate information is available elsewhere.

Personally, when I was a clerk the auxiliaries hardly ever looked at the quarterly reports unless I pointed out significant trends to them. Even with the cool new features in LCR I wouldn't think that most of them would think to look for information there when it's more obviously available in their own organization sections.

But regardless of that permissions do seem to be reviewed with some regularity. So submitting feedback with your thoughts wouldn't hurt.

eblood66 wrote:So submitting feedback with your thoughts wouldn't hurt.

Do I submit this feedback on the LCR system? Thanks for your reply.

opee wrote:

eblood66 wrote:So submitting feedback with your thoughts wouldn't hurt.

Do I submit this feedback on the LCR system? Thanks for your reply.

Yes, use the Feedback link on the left side of Leader and Clerk Resources, towards the bottom.