Out of Unit Leadership callings

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New Member
#1
I was unable to find this but it must be a common issue.
I am a Stake Clerk using Stake MLS and/or the on-line tool

Our Stake contains a Branch (retirement home.)
The Branch Presidency was recently released and a new Branch Presidency has been called from members of our Stake.

How do I, as a Stake Clerk, update these Branch Presidency callings ? I have not been able to figure this out in MLS or on-line. What's the procedure ?
Can I do this as a Stake Clerk or should the Ward Clerk do this ?
Should the member records be moved to the Branch and then assigned their callings ? Or can I just assign them their calling at the Stake level ?

Any ideas ? I would think this is fairly common.

Thanks for your help.
Community Administrator
#2
Normally the Branch President would be changed using the Leader and Unit Change Request form. You might see if that's on LCR now. Otherwise, it would be in the stake MLS.

You might want to look at the LCR won't let me add out-of-unit member to calling thread. That may give you some ideas to try.
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Church Employee
#3
Organizations > Ward Leadership
Branch (Care Center) > View Organization
Branch Presidency > View Organization

You can edit the branch president from there. He will need to edit the other assignments. I'll need to check in the morning if you still need to process a Leader and Unit Change Request Form.
Church Employee
#4
scgallafent wrote:You can edit the branch president from there. He will need to edit the other assignments. I'll need to check in the morning if you still need to process a Leader and Unit Change Request Form.
No you don't. The positions that require it just ask for extra data as you enter them.
Community Administrator
#5
jonesrk wrote:
scgallafent wrote:You can edit the branch president from there. He will need to edit the other assignments. I'll need to check in the morning if you still need to process a Leader and Unit Change Request Form.
No you don't. The positions that require it just ask for extra data as you enter them.
So, at a local unit (stake/ward) level, the LUCR is no longer needed for any changes? Boy, the Wiki is going to need some editing.
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New Member
#6
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try tonight and let you know.
New Member
#7
scgallafent wrote:Organizations > Ward Leadership
Branch (Care Center) > View Organization
Branch Presidency > View Organization

You can edit the branch president from there. He will need to edit the other assignments. I'll need to check in the morning if you still need to process a Leader and Unit Change Request Form.
Thanks, that takes me to where I can Edit the Branch President. I click the red Release button > and enter the new Branch President's record number / or his name - either one says: "Your search by name or MRN did not return any valid results, either because the information you entered is incorrect, or because the results are not allowed in this context. For someone serving from outside the ward or branch, please have a clerk add him or her as an out-of-unit member."

Question: How do I, as a Stake Clerk, "add him as an out-of-unit-member" ? Or is this something the Branch Clerk needs to do ?
For example: Member to be Branch President, resides in Our stake in Ward #1. Somehow we need to add him as an out-of-unit Member of the 23rd Branch ? Correct ? That is what I need steps to do.

Thanks again for all your help.
Bro. Peck
Community Administrator
#8
Android29 wrote:and enter the new Branch President's record number / or his name - either one says: "Your search by name or MRN did not return any valid results, either because the information you entered is incorrect, or because the results are not allowed in this context.
Note that you will get that message if the member is found, but does not hold the proper priesthood. I know the Bishop of a Ward has to be a high priest, but I'm not sure what's required for a branch president in a stake.

If he was ordained to the office of high priest, then I'd make sure that's recorded on his record before trying again.
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New Member
#9
thanks. Yes, he's showing as a High Priest since 2002.
Community Administrator
#10
On a different thread, it's indicated that when putting a MRN into a calling, you need the proper number of leading zero for it to work.
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New Member
#11
It doesn't matter if I enter his membership number or his name, it returns the same error.
I've copied and pasted it, typed, it etc.
Church Employee
#12
Android29 wrote:Question: How do I, as a Stake Clerk, "add him as an out-of-unit-member" ? Or is this something the Branch Clerk needs to do ?
For example: Member to be Branch President, resides in Our stake in Ward #1. Somehow we need to add him as an out-of-unit Member of the 23rd Branch ? Correct ? That is what I need steps to do.
Either the existing branch president or branch clerk needs to add him to the branch as an out-of-unit member before you can make the assignment. Have one of them log in and choose Membership > Manage Out-of-Unit Members and go through the process there. Once that is done, you should be able to make the assignment.

We have planned a change that should improve this process.
Community Moderators
#13
russellhltn wrote:I know the Bishop of a Ward has to be a high priest, but I'm not sure what's required for a branch president in a stake.
An elder will do, or a priest in the Aaronic priesthood, if there are no worthy elders.
New Member
#14
scgallafent wrote:
Android29 wrote:Question: How do I, as a Stake Clerk, "add him as an out-of-unit-member" ? Or is this something the Branch Clerk needs to do ?
For example: Member to be Branch President, resides in Our stake in Ward #1. Somehow we need to add him as an out-of-unit Member of the 23rd Branch ? Correct ? That is what I need steps to do.
Either the existing branch president or branch clerk needs to add him to the branch as an out-of-unit member before you can make the assignment. Have one of them log in and choose Membership > Manage Out-of-Unit Members and go through the process there. Once that is done, you should be able to make the assignment.

We have planned a change that should improve this process.
Great. I will ask our Branch Clerk to do this and I will quit banging my head against the wall :-)
New Member
#15
Ok, the Branch Clerk set him as an out of unit member to the Branch. Now, when I try to assign the new Branch President, I get past the original error but when I click Save it says " the member is not qualified to fill this calling." I know this has to be something obvious like he's not baptized, doesn't have the priesthood etc. But, of course he has all that. Is this a bug or is there something else we are missing ? - thanks again.