VISITING TEACHING AND COMPASSIONATE SERVICE LEADER

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#1
I would like for my compassionate service leader to have access to the visiting teaching list on the new LCR. I have been keeping a separate document so that she would have access. How can I make the VT list available to her?

I LOVE, by the way, the new VT reporting capabilities!!!
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#2
There's no way to assign permissions in Leader and Clerk Resources other than assigning a person to a standard calling that provides access. If the visiting teaching assignments don't change very often, you could provide a paper or PDF list.
Samuel Bradshaw • If you desire to serve God, you are called to the work.
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#3
sbradshaw wrote:There's no way to assign permissions in Leader and Clerk Resources other than assigning a person to a standard calling that provides access.
According to the access table, that's "Relief Society president, including her counselors and secretary"
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#4
Try calling her as a VT district leader and don't put anyone in her district. I think that will give her access to the app and the information.
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#5
I tried assigning her as a VT district leader without anyone, but district leaders can only see their districts.

Sbradshaw, I know the access table says the access table includes the RS Pres, counselors, and secretary, but I would assume that my visiting teaching coordinator will also be able see . . .

I would really like to also have an assistant VT coordinator who can see it.
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#6
willisa wrote:I would really like to also have an assistant VT coordinator who can see it.
Unless that calling can be found or referenced in the Handbook, that's not likely to happen.
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willisa wrote: Sbradshaw, I know the access table says the access table includes the RS Pres, counselors, and secretary, but I would assume that my visiting teaching coordinator will also be able see . . .
Even though the access table doesn't say it, VT coordinator has indeed the access.
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#8
nikk3hi3tala wrote:Even though the access table doesn't say it, VT coordinator has indeed the access.
I believe that any standard position (calling) that has "Visiting Teaching" in the name has some level of access. But custom positions will have no access regardless of what they are called.

If a calling is not referenced in the Handbook, then it's unlikely to get that calling added to the list of standard positions.
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Just another add-on. Handbook 2: 9.5.4 says "The Relief Society presidency or those who are called to assist them receive monthly reports from visiting teachers." That would appear to give the RS president quite a bit of flexibility in VT callings. That's at odds with the underlying structure of LCR where only standard callings has rights (and the list of standard callings is largely limited to what's in the Handbook). But I thought I'd throw that out there.

(But if I was to bet money, it would be that the Handbook would be updated. That wording is really broad.)
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russellhltn wrote:Just another add-on. Handbook 2: 9.5.4 says "The Relief Society presidency or those who are called to assist them receive monthly reports from visiting teachers." That would appear to give the RS president quite a bit of flexibility in VT callings.
I've always understood that as a reference to VT coordinator and VT district supervisors, which are standard callings
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#11
nikk3hi3tala wrote:I've always understood that as a reference to VT coordinator and VT district supervisors, which are standard callings
That's certainly one way to do it, but the Handbook (as currently worded) doesn't appear to limit it to that. But that may change.
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#12
Our RS president is also requesting the ability to give access to Visiting Teaching lists for the Compassionate Service Coordinator.
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#13
jschaub wrote:Our RS president is also requesting the ability to give access to Visiting Teaching lists for the Compassionate Service Coordinator.
I'm the RS president, and it would be very convenient for my compassionate service leaders to have access to the VT information. Just sayin'. ;)
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#14
sbradshaw wrote:There's no way to assign permissions in Leader and Clerk Resources other than assigning a person to a standard calling that provides access. If the visiting teaching assignments don't change very often, you could provide a paper or PDF list.
Please give Compassionate Service Leaders the default permission to have access to Ministering Brothers and Sister assignments. It is ESSENTIAL to their calling.
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dbollard99 wrote:
sbradshaw wrote:There's no way to assign permissions in Leader and Clerk Resources other than assigning a person to a standard calling that provides access. If the visiting teaching assignments don't change very often, you could provide a paper or PDF list.
Please give Compassionate Service Leaders the default permission to have access to Ministering Brothers and Sister assignments. It is ESSENTIAL to their calling.
No one on this forum has the ability to do what you ask (this forum is primarily user-to-user tech support). The default permissions are set by the programmers who receive their direction from the Brethren. The best thing you can do to pass along your request is to send feedback through the LDSTools app and/or LDS.org. You may also ask your high councilor to bring the request to the stake president who may pass it along through his coordinating council. None of this will guarantee a change, but at least then your voice may be heard.

As the ward clerk, I provide a copy of the (formerly) HT and VT lists to the RS Compassionate Service coordinator periodically. It is not an elegant solution, but it does work and allows her to access to what you claim is "essential in her calling." I find it interesting that LCR and LDSTools have only been in existence for a few years and yet access has suddenly become "ESSENTIAL"
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#16
I have submitted this request to the programmers multiple times and have never heard back. As RS secretary I am able to download the, now, Ministering Assignments (brothers and sisters) as a pdf which I email to the Compassionate Service Coordinator monthly (and I schedule a prompt on my phone). It would be most helpful for this calling to be assigned access to that report so that they have the latest companionship update.
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#17
I agree...please provide Compassionate Service Leaders the access to Ministering Brothers and Ministering Sisters assignments via LDS Tools. - Thank you, Bishop Joe Dobbins
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#18
joedobbins wrote:I agree...please provide Compassionate Service Leaders the access to Ministering Brothers and Ministering Sisters assignments via LDS Tools. - Thank you, Bishop Joe Dobbins
The forum is primarily user-to-user support. While we do have some developers who visit, they don't have the authority to make that decision.

It's best to either submit feedback via the main page, or, in your case, ask the stake president to escalate the request though his "upline"/presiding authority.
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#19
davesudweeks wrote:
dbollard99 wrote:
sbradshaw wrote:There's no way to assign permissions in Leader and Clerk Resources other than assigning a person to a standard calling that provides access. If the visiting teaching assignments don't change very often, you could provide a paper or PDF list.
Please give Compassionate Service Leaders the default permission to have access to Ministering Brothers and Sister assignments. It is ESSENTIAL to their calling.
No one on this forum has the ability to do what you ask (this forum is primarily user-to-user tech support). The default permissions are set by the programmers who receive their direction from the Brethren. The best thing you can do to pass along your request is to send feedback through the LDSTools app and/or LDS.org. You may also ask your high councilor to bring the request to the stake president who may pass it along through his coordinating council. None of this will guarantee a change, but at least then your voice may be heard.

As the ward clerk, I provide a copy of the (formerly) HT and VT lists to the RS Compassionate Service coordinator periodically. It is not an elegant solution, but it does work and allows her to access to what you claim is "essential in her calling." I find it interesting that LCR and LDSTools have only been in existence for a few years and yet access has suddenly become "ESSENTIAL"
I meant that a Compassionate Service Leader's ability to know or have access to Ministering Brother and Sister assignments is the ESSENTIAL part to their calling, and not specifically LCR or LDS Tools. Although, with as much effort the church has put into converting to digital, I would argue that this should be a standard access point for this particular calling, and is a very important one if the church expects us to rely on these tools. But whatevs.