Directory 2.5

Directory 2.5

Missionaries Can now see the wards inside their Proselyting Areas.
Fixed some Errors on Missions
Wards Now show All Missionaries That are Assigned to their ward or parent stake.
Fixed issue With Missions and Child units not working Correctly.


We actually released this like a week ago. Apparently I dropped the ball and I thought that I posted here. Thanks everyone for your Feedback

Question: Can the missionaries see the children of the households ?
If so, for just one ward or all wards in their area ?

atticusewig wrote:Question: Can the missionaries see the children of the households ?
If so, for just one ward or all wards in their area ?

They better not be able to...no reason for it

JohnShaw wrote:They better not be able to...no reason for it

0-8, I'd agree. But I think they do have an interest in the 9+ that are unbaptized as they're technically converts.

russellhltn wrote:

JohnShaw wrote:They better not be able to...no reason for it

0-8, I'd agree. But I think they do have an interest in the 9+ that are unbaptized as they're technically converts.

I understand they'll want to know that information, but there are some drawbacks to obtaining the information directly rather than working through a ward council / ward mission leader. Besides, I'm not sure how you would have a position and a report that would tell them specifically that information, without giving them clerk-type access - and if they are out there giving out data by position.....In the grand scheme of things, I'd prefer to have EQP, HPGL, RS, P, YM/YW able to access and view information they have access to in MLS - rather than for Missionaries to have information that is better coordinated with the members of the ward council.

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Missionaries behave exactly as out-of-unit ward members currently. Continued discussion is happening but I dont think this will change anytime soon.

How exactly do the missionaries get connected to the ward? We have a marvelous companionship serving our ward and this would provide a very handy way for members to contact them, but they don't show up in our ward (unlike the other companionship serving our ward, also marvelous, which does appear).
I contacted the mission office, but they have insisted (twice) they don't control it. Perhaps someone here at LDSTech knows either whom I should contact to correct it (the stake?), or, if it is controlled somehow by the mission office, what I can say to help them.
Thanks,
D.G.

I would be interested in the proper chain of command to fix this as well. The serving missionaries are still incorrect in my ward. I have had the mission office contacted, but no response. Our stake seems to have the missionaries serving in it correct, but they are not assigned to the correct ward, so you have to hunt the missionaries down among the various wards and know for sure what the correct names of the missionaries are to find them.

jhowell2000 wrote:I would be interested in the proper chain of command to fix this as well. The serving missionaries are still incorrect in my ward. I have had the mission office contacted, but no response. Our stake seems to have the missionaries serving in it correct, but they are not assigned to the correct ward, so you have to hunt the missionaries down among the various wards and know for sure what the correct names of the missionaries are to find them.

Ya if the wrong missionaries show up I am guessing one of 2 things. Either the mission office has the wrong wards assigned to a area or they have the wrong missionaries assigned to a area.

GrasseDD wrote:How exactly do the missionaries get connected to the ward?

Since missionary transfers are made by the mission president, I have to assume someone in the mission office would update something that would cause the location of the missionaries to be shown in the local units. Perhaps the person doing that does not understand how the mission software works, or the companionships are not set up to correspond with the correct wards.

Or perhaps because so many new missionaries have shown up in most missions they are behind the power curve trying to keep track of all the assignments.

I would suppose it is something similar to what a ward clerk goes through trying to keep the ward organization updated in MLS.

I'm still waiting to get word back on exactly what the mission has to update. But I think there's an issue with assigning more than one companionship to a ward. Perhaps it's a case where only one is assigned to the ward, but the other is assigned to the stake and simply visits that ward. So the detail of the assignment may be an issue.

russellhltn wrote:I'm still waiting to get word back on exactly what the mission has to update. But I think there's an issue with assigning more than one companionship to a ward.

I rummaged through our stake in the online Directory. Most of our wards have two companionships, and most of our wards show four missionaries assigned. The four missionaries are not listed by companionships. There are just four names of Elders (or two Elders and two Sisters) assigned to a particular ward. A couple of units have threesomes.

Of interest, we also have some missionaries serving temporarily in our mission/stake awaiting visas for final assignment to other countries. They are also listed correctly in the wards in which they are serving, but the map that comes up is not the map for our mission. It is the map for the mission to which they were called.

In any event, things are so orderly in our stake listings that I suspect our mission office has figured out how the missionary assignment system works and someone is maintaining it properly.

We do get more then 1 companionship there was a bug that was the case but it should not be anymore. It should get all the missionaries assigned to your unit and missionaries assigned to your stake.

jeffevannelson wrote:We do get more then 1 companionship there was a bug that was the case but it should not be anymore. It should get all the missionaries assigned to your unit and missionaries assigned to your stake.

Good to know, but what is the name of the database/system that the missions input this in? A couple of users up-thread (posts 7 & 8) need to pass that information back.

I am an elder serving in the Utah Salt Lake City Mission.

The system that missions are using is called IMOS and it includes organizing missionaries into companionships and districts, etc, as well as attaching units to each companionship.

I also have a question to add to the conversation: was this feature removed? I just noticed randomly last week that I had the privilege to see the directories, which is extremely useful since we cover multiple large, transient YSA wards. This morning, I was trying to get an address to update our progress record and the feature is gone. Any news?

josephmh wrote:I also have a question to add to the conversation: was this feature removed? I just noticed randomly last week that I had the privilege to see the directories, which is extremely useful since we cover multiple large, transient YSA wards. This morning, I was trying to get an address to update our progress record and the feature is gone. Any news?

I've heard nothing that would even remotely be related. I'd suggest checking IMOS. Perhaps a transfer is in your immediate future. <grin>

russellhltn wrote:I've heard nothing that would even remotely be related. I'd suggest checking IMOS. Perhaps a transfer is in your immediate future. <grin>

Well, we did have transfers

Here is the situation:

We had a all of the YSA missionaries in one zone. I was the first listed in the zone. At the transfer, some of the proselyting areas were moved into other zones. I'm not sure if it has any bearing at all, but now I am not the first companionship to show up in the organization roster.

In one of our YSA stakes (the one in which I serve), there are 3 companionships, 6 total missionaries. We are all assigned through IMOS to the Pioneer YSA Stake. We each have 4, or 5 in one case, wards. But, we report our key indicators as one set instead of trying to split them out to 4 wards. Or in other words, there are 3 companionships assigned to the same unit.

I know a few things about computer-y ideas and programming and suggest that maybe only the first companionships assigned to that unit gets the privilege of the functionality of the directory? But I don't think that really is the case because I sat next to another elder in this stake and we could both use the directory before transfers.

Do you think maybe it will only work if we are each assigned to our wards rather than the stake as a whole?

Thanks for your time.

jmh010 wrote:Do you think maybe it will only work if we are each assigned to our wards rather than the stake as a whole?

From some of my communication, I think that may be the case.

Not sure what happened, but now I can toggle the stake between assigned stake and home stake.

I can see the correct missionaries assigned to our ward and tried to upload their pictures so people would recognize them more easily, but their names won't come up on the "association screen". Can or should such pictures be put with their records by the mission person who updates ward missionary assignments? If I knew who that person was, I would send the pictures to them if they could put them in the missionary's record.

MSchmauch wrote:I can see the correct missionaries assigned to our ward and tried to upload their pictures so people would recognize them more easily, but their names won't come up on the "association screen". Can or should such pictures be put with their records by the mission person who updates ward missionary assignments? If I knew who that person was, I would send the pictures to them if they could put them in the missionary's record.

Strange, I thought that photos for missionaries were automatically provided by the missionary department since each missionary has to provide a photo with their application. Every one of the missionaries from our ward has a photo in the directory and I didn't put any of them in so I assume the missionary department must have.

In any case, you can't upload their photo for them. You can check with the mission and see if they can get it taken care of.

MSchmauch wrote:I can see the correct missionaries assigned to our ward and tried to upload their pictures so people would recognize them more easily, but their names won't come up on the "association screen". Can or should such pictures be put with their records by the mission person who updates ward missionary assignments? If I knew who that person was, I would send the pictures to them if they could put them in the missionary's record.

The mission is responsible for updating photos for full-time missionaries assigned to your unit. All you can do is talk to the mission office and ask them to make sure the photos are properly set for the missionaries. They do have the photos that came with the mission application, so it's just a matter of someone in the mission office uploading the photos to the right system (some missions may also choose to take a different photo).

With the mission in our area, we have found the mission to be 100% reliable in setting up the photos for the missionaries, so fortunately it's not a concern for us.